Networking a 6100

Hello,

I just got a powermac 6100 off a friend for $10. I want to network it to my iMac 400 for some classic gaming. My questions are...

1. Did this model originally come with a ethernet card?

2. Where do I look to see if it has a ethernet card?

I did some research and found it has a AAUI 15 connector but no 10baseT connector. I found a AAUI to 10baseT converter on EBay and need to know if I need to buy a Nubus ethernet card.

I also researched on direct crossover cables vs. a hub connection. They said that a crossover connection was a pain and recommended a hub. Which do you recommend?

iMac DV 400 Mac OS X (10.1.x)

Posted on Aug 20, 2006 5:31 AM

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Oct 3, 2006 4:38 AM in response to n8mac

To answer your questions:

1. This model doesn't come with an ethernet card, but it already has built-in networking via the AAUI port. There is no need to purchase another separate ethernet card.

2. If you don't see a card plugged into the one and only PDS slot, then it doesn't have an expansion card installed.

If you want to network this computer, you must get an AAUI to 10BT dongle. Then you plug the ethernet cable into this dongle at one end, and the other end to the AAUI port on the computer. I suggest using either a hub or switch to create a home network. If you plan on expanding your home network in the future, a switch is the better choice.

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Oct 14, 2006 3:47 AM in response to n8mac

You did the right research. The AAUI to 10baseT converter gives you the equivalent of an Ethernet card. You do not need anything else to give you network access.

A hub is more flexible if later, you want to add another device to your small network, such as another Mac or a printer. I don't see that a crossover connection is a "pain," but it is meant as more of a temporary connection, because you may also need to use that Ethernet port for your Internet connection.

What, if anything, is currently connected to the iMac's Ethernet port?

Oct 23, 2006 7:49 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe

Thanks for all your replies and help!

Nothing is connected to the iMac now.

I just found out that a friend is giving me a blue and white G3 which would be better than the 6100 for anything. I may want to later connect the 6100 to the network which means I need a switch and not a hub I take it? I would want to connect them all at once.

Thanks again!

iMac DV 400 Mac OS X (10.1.x)

Oct 23, 2006 10:42 AM in response to n8mac

n8mac,

Just for the record, schools would frequently buy ethernet cards for those machines to get a 10/100BASE-T Ethernet connector (RJ-45) for faster data transfers on LANs.

The 6100 will do just fine for a data backup machine on a network so buying a 10/100BASE-T Ethernet card is recommended for speed - but not for cost efficiency.

The B&W was the first Mac that had Built-in 10/100BASE-T Ethernet. ( http://support.apple.com/specs/powermac/PowerMacintosh_G3Blue-and-White.html ). Not even the venerable 9600/350 had faster ethernet.

One word of caution, if you go with a hub and connect the iMac 400 to the web, you internet service provider will see all three computers and might bill you for three hookups. A router will prevent the entire LAN from being seen by the ISP.

Jim

Oct 23, 2006 12:23 PM in response to n8mac

A blue and white G3 would definitely be better, and there are more upgrade options for it (and it can run Mac OS X decently).

If you want to connect all your computers to the Internet at once, you need a device called a "router." The router connects to your broadband connection point, maintains the connection with the ISP, and allows the connection to be shared. Most routers also have 4 or more connection points and acts as a "hub" for the local network. An Ethernet hub (that's not a router) will easily connect all your computers together into a network, but will not connect directly to the broadband connection (although you can connect a hub to a router to increase the number of connection points or put a "node" in another room).

I'm not sure about the distinction between a "switch" and "hub."

Oct 23, 2006 6:37 PM in response to Appaloosa mac man

A Hub takes the signals coming in on its cables and repeats them on all the other cables. It has no idea what it is repeating, including garbage if some device happens to spew garbage.

A switch takes in packets, checks them for veracity, and repeats the good ones. The most important concept is that a switch does a "store and forward" of complete, correct packets.

Some switches look at packet addresses and build internal routing tables and will forward packets to only the cable that has answered to that address previously. Some switches can change speeds to send packets from one device at 10 Mbits/s to another at 100 Mbits/sec.

A router, as the wikipedia article says, connects two networks. I used to run a two-port router -- one Internet port, one all-my-computers port. I has a separate switch. Most routers you buy today also include a 4 port or 8 port switch built in, which is very convenient, but makes understanding the various functions more difficult.

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