HappyTexas

Q: How do I STOP auto-till tags when saving documents?

Please!  I'm asking again.  Please STOP auto-filling my tags as I try to save documents.  You can't spell.  You can't read my mind.  You don't know what you're doing.  You're unwanted.  You get in the way.  You aggravate.  You slow me down.  You make my typing inaccurate.  Correcting your stupid, invasive errors is maddening, a waste of time, and it's desperately NOT wanted.  I'm tired of FIGHTING with my beloved computer!!!

 

 

I know you can allow customers to intelligently and efficiently create their own relevant tags.  I've seen it done.  I've lived it.  I've worked.  I enjoyed it before the lunacy you call a Mavericks "UPgrade."  There's little about Mavericks that has upped your value, Apple.

 

 

I know how to type.   PLEASE, for God's sake, let me do it!!!

iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Apr 22, 2014 8:25 AM

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  • by benwiggy,

    benwiggy benwiggy Apr 22, 2014 8:49 AM in response to HappyTexas
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    Apr 22, 2014 8:49 AM in response to HappyTexas

    Can you describe this behaviour more clearly? Are oyu saying that apps automatically add tags, or that it automatically completes tags you type with existing tags? I've not seen the former; and in the case of the latter, surely you just keep typing something different, as you would anyway, if it's a new tag?

  • by HappyTexas,

    HappyTexas HappyTexas Apr 22, 2014 9:21 AM in response to benwiggy
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    Apr 22, 2014 9:21 AM in response to benwiggy

    Since the Apple "geniuses" installed Mavericks, tags are auto-filled as I try to type the TRUE tag words and phrases needed.  The tags Apple demands I use are always wrong.  I have to abandon a once-flawless file system or fight with an illiterate robot that thinks it's a mind reader.  "Just keep typing something different?"  Are you kidding me???  When the tag I need is "cat," why must I fight my way through the whole **** zoo just to get three letters in correct order?  There is nothing efficient about that.

     

    This throw-back tag system is HORRIBLE!!!

  • by benwiggy,

    benwiggy benwiggy Apr 22, 2014 9:35 AM in response to HappyTexas
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    Apr 22, 2014 9:35 AM in response to HappyTexas

    I'm still not sure I've seen the behaviour you're describing. If I start typing a Tag, Apple OFFERS me existing Tags, but I don't have to accept that and I can type something else instead with no effort.

     

    If I want to create a tag of "Cat" and I already have one for "Category", then I type C A T and <delete> to remove the 'egory".

    If I want to create a tag of "Catharsis", then I just type that, and 'egory" disappears when I add the H.

     

    There should be no need to go through "the whole zoo". Unless you've installed some other software that might be interfering with text input.

  • by HappyTexas,

    HappyTexas HappyTexas Apr 22, 2014 9:56 AM in response to benwiggy
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    Apr 22, 2014 9:56 AM in response to benwiggy

    Exactly, benwiggy!  When I type "cat" because I'm working with animals, I do not want to waste a minute of my time or one iota of aggravation on "category" and "catharsis."  When I CHOOSE to type "cat," "category" and "catharsis" are incorrect.  Always.  Every single time.  They're misspelled.  They're errors, typos, invasions, time-wasters, they're wrong in every way.

     

    How can I make the time-wasting, inaccurate, incorrect, invasive, unwanted, just-plain-wrong words from getting in my way?  How can I make that whole stupid invasion stop?

     

    How can I return to a filing system that was once efficient, operated smoothly and accurately, and that actually did me some good?

  • by benwiggy,

    benwiggy benwiggy Apr 22, 2014 10:17 AM in response to HappyTexas
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    Apr 22, 2014 10:17 AM in response to HappyTexas

    But you won't be offered those words unless they already exist as Tags.

     

    If they do already exist as tags, then presumably, sometimes, you will want to use them. So it's a help under those circumstances.

    If you have tags that are shorter subsets of other tags, you can either select them from the drop-down list, or press <delete> when you've finished typing the shorter version.

     

    For the sake of emphasis: you should not be offered words that are not Tags. If you are, something is very wrong.

     

    When you say "how can I return to a filing system that was efficient", that suggests that Tags used to work better. There has been no change to Tags since 10.9 was launched.

  • by HappyTexas,

    HappyTexas HappyTexas Apr 22, 2014 11:39 AM in response to benwiggy
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    Apr 22, 2014 11:39 AM in response to benwiggy

    You're getting warmer, benwiggy, but you are not addressing the question.

     

    (1)  Yes, there is a lot of mumbled-jumbled CRAP in my tags list.  I did not create them.  I do not want them so I did not create them.  They are auto-generated and they are incorrect, useless, invasive, unwanted, wrong.  I did not create them because I do not use them.  I will not use them ever.  Whether they are in the tags list or not is irrelevant.  I did not create them because I do not want them.  I will never use them.  I don't want a tags LIST.  I want them to go away and stay away.

     

    (2) You write:  "suggests that Tags used to work better."  "No change to Tags since 10.9 was launched."  Yes and yes again!  The problem is the god-awful excuse for a tagging system that emerged with the Mavericks monster.  I need it to go away, thus . . .

     

    (3) My question:  How do I STOP auto-fill tags when saving documents?

     

    Making sense yet?

  • by benwiggy,

    benwiggy benwiggy Apr 22, 2014 1:09 PM in response to HappyTexas
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    Apr 22, 2014 1:09 PM in response to HappyTexas

    HappyTexas wrote:

     

    (1)  Yes, there is a lot of mumbled-jumbled CRAP in my tags list.  I did not create them.  I do not want them so I did not create them.  They are auto-generated and they are incorrect, useless, invasive, unwanted, wrong.  I did not create them because I do not use them.  I will not use them ever.  Whether they are in the tags list or not is irrelevant.  I did not create them because I do not want them.  I will never use them.  I don't want a tags LIST.  I want them to go away and stay away.

    Tags should not get automatically created. That is not my experience. Apart from the 7 default coloured Tags (which I have since renamed and used), I only have Tags that I created.

    No files have been tagged without my express direction.

     

    If you are saying that OS X is automatically CREATING tags with random terms, and/or tagging your files with these tags, then that is not the expected design of Tags in OS X.

     

    It should therefore be possible to fix it.

  • by Eric Root,

    Eric Root Eric Root Apr 22, 2014 1:38 PM in response to HappyTexas
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    Apr 22, 2014 1:38 PM in response to HappyTexas

    Send Apple feedback. They won't answer, but at least will know there is a problem. If enough people send feedback, it may get the problem solved sooner.


    Feedback

     

    Or you can use your Apple ID to register with this site and go the Apple BugReporter. Supposedly you will get an answer if you submit feedback.


    Feedback via Apple Developer

  • by HappyTexas,

    HappyTexas HappyTexas Apr 22, 2014 1:51 PM in response to benwiggy
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    Apr 22, 2014 1:51 PM in response to benwiggy

    This is becoming exhausting, benwiggy.  I thought we were headed somewhere but you're lost again.

     

    You write:

     

    (1) "Tags should not get automatically created."  Thus my question of how to stop it.

     

    (2) "That is not my experience."  Goodie for you.

     

    (3) "7 default coloured Tags" = utterly and completely useless.  When I want to play with colors, I'll grab a box of Crayola crayons and a sheet of typing paper and crawl down onto the floor and have myself a color-filled little artsy party.  I can't begin to describe how irrelevent and undesireable these silly colors are to me.  What good are 7 useless colors going to do me with a thousand different tags?  And I care nothing for how you coral or create them.

     

    (4) "OS X is automatically CREATING tags with random terms, and/or tagging your files with these tags" = now we're getting somewhere again.  And, again, thus the question of stopping the time-draining, energy-sucking madness.

  • by HappyTexas,

    HappyTexas HappyTexas Apr 22, 2014 1:56 PM in response to Eric Root
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    Apr 22, 2014 1:56 PM in response to Eric Root

    Thank you for this suggestion, Eric Root.  I've submitted feedback about it repeatedly, including again today.  I've called to speak to them personally.  There's been no improvements and the file system that has worked flawlessly for me for years has been turned upside down by this utterly stupid new development that came with the utterly curious Mavericks retrograde "upgrade."

     

    There are a few plusses to Mavericks but they are nowhere good enough to outweigh all the bad, time-wasting, aggravating, throw-back flaws, glitches, crashes, freezes, and other chaos that was unleashed when Mavericks was installed.  My computer in the 1980s worked faster and more reliabley than Mavericks ever has.  I would've been glad to pay for something that actually works.

  • by benwiggy,

    benwiggy benwiggy Apr 22, 2014 2:08 PM in response to HappyTexas
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    Apr 22, 2014 2:08 PM in response to HappyTexas

    Can you run the EtreCheck software and post the results here?

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6171

     

    You're sure you don't have any third-party software that might affect text input?

  • by HappyTexas,

    HappyTexas HappyTexas Apr 25, 2014 1:52 PM in response to benwiggy
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    Apr 25, 2014 1:52 PM in response to benwiggy

    I can't imagine third-party software being an issue.  Everything worked in perfect syncronization before installing Mavericks.  After that, all **** broke loose.  I even spent twice as much time as I was told it would take at the Apple store so the "geniuses" could upgrade all third-party software to be compatible with this blasted "free upgrade" they installed.

     

    I've gotten so far behind on work that I can't take the time to experiement right now but will try to run your software check in a few days.  Thanks for the suggestion, benwiggy.

  • by actionmarker,

    actionmarker actionmarker Apr 25, 2014 10:27 PM in response to HappyTexas
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    Apr 25, 2014 10:27 PM in response to HappyTexas

    HappyTexas, I'm not sure if I completely understand you issues, so maybe further explaination from you is required if my description below do not address your issues.

     

    The way you describe the issues, you don't want to use tags but you are saving file with tags. You are not forced to used tags if you don't want to, you can just save files to the folder structure as you always have without tags.

     

    It sounds like you have numereous unwanted tags on your system, so when you start typing, those are also displayed as options. You can edit or remove the unwanted tags in Finder.

     

    In the sidebar, select All Tags. If you don't have it on the sidebar, then go to Finder > Preferences > Tags and Tick at least one of your tags, that tag and also All Tags are now displayed in the Finder sidebar. Now in the Finder sidebar, click on All Tags. This will display all the tags that you have on you system, if files are assigned to them or not.

     

    You can delete any unwanted tags off your system and any files associated to that tag will no long be associated. If you don't delete the unwanted tags, they will always be offered to you as suggestions when you are typing a tag name.

  • by Barney-15E,

    Barney-15E Barney-15E Apr 26, 2014 8:34 AM in response to HappyTexas
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    Apr 26, 2014 8:34 AM in response to HappyTexas
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