about location precision and accuracy

In the section titled 'about location precision and accuracy', the documentation states...


"If your location can’t be determined precisely, a blue circle also appears around the marker. The size of the circle shows how precisely your location can be determined—the smaller the circle, the greater the precision."


Should this not read "If your location cannot be determined accurately"? or does the documentation really imply precision is impaired?


By this I mean, does the device return fewer decimal places for longitude and latitude (precision) depending on how good the accuracy of position is deemed to be?


One can have a very precise reading that is in the wrong place and, hence, is not accurate.

Does the documentation imply that precision is varied according to an estimate of accuracy?


Mapping longitude/latitude readings in an area with poor coverage with less precision would place all readings from that area at the same point.

Is that the intended outcome?


I would have expected all readings to have the same precision but that a blue circle to appear with a size that shows how accurately your location can be determined - the smaller the circle, the greater the accuracy.

iPhone 5s, iOS 7.1.1

Posted on Apr 30, 2014 3:17 AM

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Apr 30, 2014 5:37 AM in response to Maolain

Precisely is a synonym for accurately.


Precision is a synonym for accuracy.


You are using meanings for precision and accuracy which are outside the convention definitions of the words.


Presumably the GPS hardware always returns the same number of digits for longitude and latitude. The question is how precise or accurate are those numbers (I.e., +/- what uncertainty)

May 1, 2014 7:53 AM in response to JimHdk

Hi Jim,

Many thanks for taking the time to respond to my question but I regard your English lesson as fillibuster.

If you wish to consult the Oxford English Dictionary, they will provide you will the technical interpretation of the words Precision and Accuracy in addition to their common usage.


And, I quote, Precision

1.2technical Refinement in a measurement, calculation, or specification, especially as represented by the number of digits given: a technique which examines and identifies each character with the highest level of precision [count noun]: a precision of six decimal figures


And, I quote, Accuracy

1.1technical The degree to which the result of a measurement, calculation, or specification conforms to the correct value or a standard: the accuracy of radiocarbon dating [count noun]: accuracies of 50-70 per cent


Let us take the standard meter rule as an example. Let's assume it is subdivided into one thousand equal graduations called millimeters. We cannot make a measurement more precise than one millimeter with this rule. However, the accuracy of the measurement is a different matter as the rule may indicate different lengths for the same graduations at different temperature and pressure and any other physical properties of the rule material and its ambient surroundings.


In your response, you refer to a presumption that the GPS hardware always returns the same number of digits. I would love to debate the difference in English between an assumption and a presumption too but that would be more fillibuster! So I will ask you, upon what do you base that belief? Regardless of the hardware, the readings presented to users pass though many levels of software that may, or may not, affect the precision presented to users (i.e. the number of digits).


For example, if I use a common internet mapping application, I find that the precision of the Long/Lat readings displayed depend on the zoom level. This makes sense as the individual pixels on the map can only resolve to a certain precision depending on map scale. So, although my iPhone hardware may be telling me my location to N decimal places, the application only displays them as M decimal places depending on the map scale that I am viewing.


My real world problem is that I read a collection of photographs taken over a wide geographic area and I am attempting to position those photographs in a geographic information system. The longitude and latitude values in different photographs have different levels of precision ranging from one decimal place to thirteen decimal places. I seek to know why the precision of these readings varies. I read the iPhone documentation and I queried it. The issue may be nothing to do with iPhone hardware and (more likely) is introduced by software that processes the information.


Any insight you might have would be gratefully received.

May 1, 2014 8:00 AM in response to Maolain

The iPhone is designed for the masses and general location use, it is not an extremely precise or accurate GPS instrument. The masses don't understand the differnce between precision and accuracy or even know there is a difference. In the case of the iPhone, it doesn't matter. Bottom line... the blue dot shows an approximation of your location, sometimes within a few feet, sometimes within many meters, depending on conditions.

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