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Q: Aperture Books - Printed Cover?

Why don't my hardcover books include the option of a printed cover? All I can see when editing the book is the dust jacket. The Aperture web site clearly shows a printed cover, and the book title printed on the spine, yet I can't see any way of including these in my book design. Using Aperture 3.5.1 and  OSX 10.9.2

 

There must be a simple answer to this, does anybody have it?

Aperture 3, Mac OS X (10.7.3)

Posted on Apr 30, 2014 11:28 PM

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  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Apr 30, 2014 11:48 PM in response to Neil_P
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    Apr 30, 2014 11:48 PM in response to Neil_P

    This page "Apple Photo Services: Product line details for books, cards, and calendars http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3412" states that the Aperture books will have a

    dust jacket and photo-wrap cover.

     

    The photo wrap will be the same as the dust jacket, so you do not have an option to select different photos for the photo-wrap cover.

     


  • by Neil_P,

    Neil_P Neil_P Apr 30, 2014 11:57 PM in response to léonie
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    Apr 30, 2014 11:57 PM in response to léonie

    Yes, I realise that the dust jacket will be the same as the cover, and that is fine, but my problem is that the cover is not printed at all. The book is printed with a plain cover and a printed jacket. And there is nowhere to add the title of the book to the spine (of either the cover or the dust jacket). I am beginning to wonder if this is a limitation/restriction of the New Zealand store, and that this service is not availablel here.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 1, 2014 12:16 AM in response to Neil_P
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    May 1, 2014 12:16 AM in response to Neil_P

    Give the New Zealand Print Products Store a call - use the phone number on this page:

     

    http://store.apple.com/nz/help/print_products

     

    Or use the link to "order status" on that page - find your last order on the order status page; there should be a link to "Report a problem" and ask the Store about the book design. And please post the answer here.

     

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  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 1, 2014 12:19 AM in response to Neil_P
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    May 1, 2014 12:19 AM in response to Neil_P

    The book is printed with a plain cover and a printed jacket.

    And there is nowhere to add the title of the book to the spine (of either the cover or the dust jacket).

    The title on the spine will/should be created from the title of the book. There is no field to edit the spine separately.

  • by Neil_P,

    Neil_P Neil_P May 1, 2014 12:30 AM in response to léonie
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    May 1, 2014 12:30 AM in response to léonie

    Indeed, but it doesn't. The field for the title on the dust jacket is a simple text box. Apple are looking into it for me, but the advice I've had so far has been no good.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 1, 2014 12:39 AM in response to léonie
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    May 1, 2014 12:39 AM in response to léonie

    Using the "Dust Jacket Spread Cover" page design for the cover, there is only a title field, no field for the spine, but the title will appear on the spine in the preview of the book:

     

    The title page in Aperture:

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    And in the preview generated by "Preview book" in the "Buy Book" panel:

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    Or are you using the "default" cover and not the "Dust Jacket Spread Cover"? But even with the default cover you should be seeing the cover in addition to the dust jacket in the preview.

  • by Neil_P,

    Neil_P Neil_P May 1, 2014 12:38 AM in response to léonie
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    May 1, 2014 12:38 AM in response to léonie

    I use the default cover, the spread cover is no good for 99.9% of photographs!

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 1, 2014 12:52 AM in response to Neil_P
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    May 1, 2014 12:52 AM in response to Neil_P

    But does the "Preview" of your book (see: iPhoto, Aperture: Previewing an order in iPhoto or Aperture) show the spine and the photo cover?  All previews I am creating - with default cover or spread cover will show the dust jacket, the photo cover and the printed spine on both. Perhaps you have old themes installed, if these items don't show in the preview. I tested with the "Journal" theme and the "Picture Book" theme. Which theme are you using?

     

    Whatever I enter into the title text box on the title page will change what I am seeing on the spine. It is not just an ordenary text field. It is linked to the spine.

     

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  • by Neil_P,Solvedanswer

    Neil_P Neil_P May 1, 2014 1:35 AM in response to léonie
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    May 1, 2014 1:35 AM in response to léonie

    I think this points to the solution. It seems you must have a title entered on the cover page (dust jacket) in order for the cover itself to be printed.

     

    When I tested a new book layout with a title inserted, as you have done, it worked. It also worked in iPhoto. For my book, my cover was an edge-to-edge borderless image which incorporated an embedded title, so no text actually entered into the text field. I appreciate that this would mean that the title would not appear on the spine, but it seems that a title is also required to generate a printed cover. As soon as I do that, a cover appears in the print preview pdf. So that is the difference. I used the 'modern lines' template and it has worked perfectly this way. So the issue seems to be that you cannot customise your dust jacket and not include a title. This image was previously used as my front cover, text embedded. I will now have to modify the dust jacket layout, using normal text instead.

     

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  • by léonie,Helpful

    léonie léonie May 1, 2014 1:46 AM in response to Neil_P
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    May 1, 2014 1:46 AM in response to Neil_P

    It seems you must have a title entered on the cover page (dust jacket) in order for the cover itself to be printed.

     

    That looks like a bug.

    If text fields are empty, the text fields should be suppressed, but not the complete page with the photos as well.

     

    I'd file a bug report - use this form:

    Apple - Aperture - Feedback  http://www.apple.com/feedback/aperture.html