Apple IIc+ Boot Disks and Other Questions

The original "AppleWorks " was great on the Apple IIc. We loved it. The '+' means that you have an upgraded version. We had to pay extra for the features that came standard on the plus model. Do you have a 3.5" floppy drive? If not, look for one. The plus can take advantage of them. It means that a 3.5 disk from the IIc will go into a Mac and be read by Passport or Apple File Exchange.

The imagewriter II is still a great printer.

Printing mailing labels would be a great task for the machine. Otherwise, enjoy all the early games.

You need to get DOS3.3 or ProDOS for your Apple IIc.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-II-IIe-IIc-ProDOS-Users-Disk-by-Apple-Computer-/22 1420515653?pt=US_Vintage_Computing_Parts_Accessories&hash=item338db0f145

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Appaloosa mac man wrote:

The '+' means that you have an upgraded version. We had to pay extra for the features that came standard on the plus model. Do you have a 3.5" floppy drive? If not, look for one. The plus can take advantage of them.

You have it backwards:

The original Apple //c contained an internal 5-1/4" floppy drive.

As Apple started using 3.5" drives in its Lisa & Macintosh models, Apple released an external drive, called the UniDisk 3.5 that would use these discs. It would connect to the external floppy drive port of the Apple //c, but a modification was required to be made to the original Apple //c's for the Unidrive 3.5 to properly function. This modification was free to all purchasers of Unidisks 3.5 with Apple //c's that required the modification (such as myself).

The last version of the Apple //c to be released by Apple was the Apple //c+. This model came with an internal 3.5" floppy drive, instead of the 5-1/4" floppy drive. External 5-1/4" and 3.5" drives were available to connect to the floppy drive port on the back of the Apple //c+. This must be the case of the OP, as noted above.

The Imagewriter II printer connects to the printer port on the back of the Apple //c+. With the introduction of the Apple //c+, its serial ports using DIN-5 on the earlier Apple //c models, were replaced with the DIN-8 then currently being used on the Mac 512Ke and Mac Plus and Imagewriter II. Hence an Imagewriter II cable would be the same for both these Macs and the Apple //c+: a DIN-8 to DIN-8 cable.

Original Apple //c to Imagewriter II cable:

Apple //c+ to Imagewriter II cable:

While I am confused a bit by the comment: "I need to look for some way to hook it into my router. I'm assuming there's an adapter..." I can confidently say that their is no way to get an Imagewriter II to function with a "router" that would be used with modern day Macs.

Much software for the Apple //c is available online through many sites, although most of it is in the 5-1/4" disc image format. Here is one source:

http://apple2online.com/

Here is software and discussion of how to download and save to floppy formats for the Apple //:

http://adtpro.sourceforge.net/

I had forgotten that there was an add-on board that gave the Imagewriter II a "localtalk" option. But that would require an ethernet to localtalk bridge and I think that Appletalk was eliminated with Lion.

I use the Keyspan USB to serial on my Leopard Mac Mini to allow my Apple //c to "talk" to my Mac: That model had a DB-9 serial port (and I have the appropriate DIN-5 to DB-9 ADTPro cable),, but I think there uis also a model that has a Mac DIN-8:

Michael,

I am glad that you got your upgrade for free. We had to pay dearly for our upgrade.

" The '+' means that you have an upgraded version. We had to pay extra for the features that came standard on the plus model."

I could have chosen a better term than upgraded. The + model was a factory 'update' or upgraded model release. Support for 3.5 disks came standard on the plus model. However we might word it, reading 3.5" disks is not an issue for Plus owners.

"The plus can take advantage of them. It means that a 3.5 disk from the IIc will go into a Mac and be read by Passport or Apple File Exchange." Passport was a beta version of AFE that many of us enjoyed for years before the official release of AFE.

Why did you have to pay for your upgrade? What year did you upgrade and was it concurrent with a purchase of the Unidisk 3.5?

To be honest, I have purchased two or three more Apple //c's off of eBay over the years, just to get some peripherals that I wanted, including the color monitor and an Applied Engineering Z-RAM card. Those purchases also came in handy after my original //c malfunctioned.

I also have the Prairie Pack package, which includes the Prairie Power pack (portable 12V rechargable with compatible //c power cable), the C-Vue LCD screen (which attaches to the back of the //c and flips up and down) and an over-the-shoulder carrying case.

I have to admit that I have not used the portability of the //c in years, but it was my first "laptop" and I brought it to the Cannes Film Festival once for work with a 1200 baud modem in the late 1980's!

Now to correct the terminology, here are the various Apple //c update revisions:

Original //c (ROM version '255') - released April 1984

Serial port timing fix (motherboard swap) - released November 1984

UniDisk 3.5 support (ROM version '0') - released November 1984

Memory Expansion //c (ROM version '3') - released September 1986

Memory Expansion fix (ROM version '4') - released January 1988

This was the final version of the Apple //c until the release of the Apple //c+ or Apple //c Plus (ROM version '5') released in September 1988. This was a completely different Apple //c as it no longer require the "brick on a leash" power supply (all power supply components were internal), the internal floppy became 3.5" instead of 5-1/4" and included a faster 65C02 processor (4MHz).

I posted photos of both the Apple //c and the Apple //c Plus in a prior post:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6175599?answerId=25746913022#25746913022

Soundblastdj wrote:

Tangental question: Anybody know how to get the Apple IIc+ to save correctly on the owned computers list? When I put it in as other, then type Apple IIc+, it deletes it. As of right now, I've got it in the notes section.

It listed it for me, but I forget how...

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UPDATE: It IS listing yours!

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PS: send me an email. Maybe I can find some time to just send you one of my extra Apple //c Plus Systems discs: MichaelLAX at AOL dot com

You said that adding it in the notes would result in it being deleted; but its there! Oooops: my mistake! 🙂

PS: send me an email. Maybe I can find some time to just send you one of my extra Apple //c Plus Systems discs: MichaelLAX at AOL dot com