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Q: Late 2011 13" Macbook Pro started running very slow! Any idea why?

These are the results from EtreCheck. Any idea?

 

 

 

Hardware Information:

          MacBook Pro (13-inch, Late 2011)

          MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro8,1

          1 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 CPU: 2 cores

          4 GB RAM

 

Video Information:

          Intel HD Graphics 3000 - VRAM: 384 MB

 

System Software:

          OS X 10.9.2 (13C64) - Uptime: 1 day 2:46:21

 

Disk Information:

          TOSHIBA MK7559GSXF disk0 : (750,16 GB)

                    EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209,7 MB

                    Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / [Startup]: 749,3 GB (99,41 GB free)

                    Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

 

          MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-8A8 

 

USB Information:

          Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)

 

          Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub

                    Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

 

          Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

 

          Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

 

Thunderbolt Information:

          Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

 

Configuration files:

          /etc/hosts - Count: 30

 

Gatekeeper:

          Mac App Store and identified developers

 

Kernel Extensions:

          [kext loaded] com.Cycling74.driver.Soundflower (1.6.6 - SDK 10.6) Support

          [not loaded] com.NovatelWireless.driver.NovatelWirelessUSBCDCECMControl (3.0.13) Support

          [not loaded] com.NovatelWireless.driver.NovatelWirelessUSBCDCECMData (3.0.13) Support

          [not loaded] com.ZG.driver.ZGUSBCDCACMData (1.0) Support

          [not loaded] com.ZG.driver.ZGUSBMassStorageFilter (1.0) Support

          [not loaded] com.ZTE.driver.ZTEUSBCDCACMData (1.3.29) Support

          [not loaded] com.ZTE.driver.ZTEUSBMassStorageFilter (1.3.29) Support

          [not loaded] com.novamedia.driver.IceraUSB_MSD_Bypass (1.3.0) Support

          [not loaded] com.novatelwireless.driver.3G (3.0.13) Support

          [not loaded] com.novatelwireless.driver.3GData (3.0.13) Support

          [not loaded] com.novatelwireless.driver.DisableAutoInstall (3.0.13) Support

          [not loaded] com.option.driver.Option72 (2.15.0) Support

          [not loaded] com.option.driver.OptionHS (3.26.0) Support

          [not loaded] com.option.driver.OptionMSD (1.21.0) Support

          [not loaded] com.option.driver.OptionQC (1.11.0) Support

          [not loaded] com.paceap.kext.PACESupport (5.7.2) Support

          [not loaded] com.paceap.kext.PACESupport2 (5.7.2) Support

          [not loaded] com.paceap.kext.pacesupport.leopard (5.7.2) Support

          [not loaded] com.paceap.kext.pacesupport.master (5.7.2) Support

          [not loaded] com.paceap.kext.pacesupport.panther (5.7.2) Support

          [kext loaded] com.paceap.kext.pacesupport.snowleopard (5.7.2) Support

          [not loaded] com.paceap.kext.pacesupport.tiger (5.7.2) Support

          [not loaded] com.realtek.driver.RTL8192CU (1024 - SDK 10.7) Support

          [not loaded] com.realtek.driver.RTL8192SU (1082 - SDK 10.7) Support

          [kext loaded] com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt (0.0.67) Support

          [not loaded] com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverVSP (0.0.67) Support

          [not loaded] com.roxio.TDIXController (1.6) Support

          [not loaded] com.tomtom.driver.UsbEthernetGadget (1.0.0d1) Support

          [not loaded] com.vodafone.driver (3.0.9) Support

          [not loaded] com.vodafone.driver.Data (3.0.9) Support

          [not loaded] com.zg.driver.cdc_ecm_qmi (1.0) Support

          [not loaded] com.zg.driver.cdc_usb_bus (1.0) Support

          [not loaded] com.zte.driver.cdc_ecm_qmi (1.0.19) Support

          [not loaded] com.zte.driver.cdc_usb_bus (1.0.19) Support

          [not loaded] de.novamedia.driver.NMSamsung (0.0.2) Support

          [not loaded] de.novamedia.driver.NMSmartplugSCSIDevice (1.0.1) Support

          [not loaded] de.novamedia.driver.NMUSBCDCACMControl (3.2.12) Support

          [not loaded] de.novamedia.driver.NMUSBCDCACMData (3.2.12) Support

          [not loaded] de.novamedia.oem.vodafone.vtp.huawei.cdc (0.0.2) Support

 

Startup Items:

          ChmodBPF: Path: /Library/StartupItems/ChmodBPF

          Jaksta: Path: /Library/StartupItems/Jaksta

          PACESupport: Path: /Library/StartupItems/PACESupport

          PenTabletDriver: Path: /Library/StartupItems/PenTabletDriver

          Sudochmod: Path: /Library/StartupItems/Sudochmod

 

Problem System Launch Daemons:

          [failed] com.apple.AOSNotificationOSX.plist

          [failed] com.apple.wdhelper.plist

 

Problem System Launch Agents:

          [loaded] com.paragon.NTFS.trial.plist Support

          [loaded] com.paragon.NTFS.upd.plist Support

 

Launch Daemons:

          [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist Support

          [loaded] com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist Support

          [loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist Support

          [loaded] com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist Support

          [loaded] com.oracle.java.JavaUpdateHelper.plist Support

          [running] com.paceap.eden.licensed.plist Support

          [running] com.splashtop.streamer-daemon.plist Support

          [loaded] com.splashtop.streamer-srioframebuffer.plist Support

          [not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_service.plist Support

          [failed] com.tenablesecurity.nessusd.plist Support

          [loaded] org.macosforge.xquartz.privileged_startx.plist Support

          [loaded] org.tcpdump.chmod_bpf.plist Support

          [loaded] PACESupport.plist Support

 

Launch Agents:

          [not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist Support

          [loaded] com.adobe.CS5ServiceManager.plist Support

          [loaded] com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist Support

          [not loaded] com.splashtop.streamer-for-root.plist Support

          [loaded] com.splashtop.streamer-for-user.plist Support

          [not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer.plist Support

          [not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_desktop.plist Support

          [running] de.novamedia.VodafoneDeviceObserver.plist Support

          [loaded] org.macosforge.xquartz.startx.plist Support

          [running] Wlan.Software.plist Support

 

User Launch Agents:

          [loaded] com.facebook.videochat.[redacted].plist Support

          [loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist Support

          [loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.diskSpaceWatcher.plist Support

          [loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.scheduledScan.plist Support

          [loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.trashWatcher.plist Support

          [loaded] com.splashtop.streamer-for-user.plist Support

 

User Login Items:

          Caffeine

          SpeechSynthesisServer

          PenTabletDriver

 

Internet Plug-ins:

          JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 7 Update 55 Check version

          Unity Web Player: Version: UnityPlayer version 4.3.5f1 - SDK 10.6 Support

          Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9

          Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: Version: 2.4.4.2 Support

          Silverlight: Version: 5.1.20513.0 - SDK 10.6 Support

          FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 13.0.0.206 - SDK 10.6 Support

          Flash Player: Version: 13.0.0.206 - SDK 10.6 Support

          QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

          Mathematica: Version: 9.0.1.4092152 Support

          SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.0.0 Support

          CANONiMAGEGATEWAYDL: Version: 2.1.0.1 Support

          CANONiMAGEGATEWAYLI: Version: 2.1.0.1 Support

          DirectorShockwave: Version: 11.6.5r635 Support

 

Safari Extensions:

          WOT: Version: 2.0.17

          YouTube5: Version: 2.6.7

          Translate: Version: 1.1

          Amazon Shopping Assistant: Version: 1.1

          Ebay Shopping Assistant: Version: 1.1

          Evernote Web Clipper: Version: 6.1

 

Audio Plug-ins:

          BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.9

          AirPlay: Version: 2.0 - SDK 10.9

          AppleAVBAudio: Version: 203.2 - SDK 10.9

          iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.9

 

iTunes Plug-ins:

          Quartz Composer Visualizer: Version: 1.4 - SDK 10.9

 

User Internet Plug-ins:

          RealPlayer Plugin: Version: Unknown

 

3rd Party Preference Panes:

          Flash Player  Support

          Flip4Mac WMV  Support

          Growl  Support

          Java  Support

          Nessus.Preferences  Support

          Paragon NTFS for Mac ® OS X  Support

 

Time Machine:

          Skip System Files: NO

          Mobile backups: ON

          Auto backup: YES

          Volumes being backed up:

                    Macintosh HD: Disk size: 697.84 GB Disk used: 605.25 GB

          Destinations:

                    E_HDD [Local] (Last used)

                    Total size: 931.19 GB

                    Total number of backups: 4

                    Oldest backup: 2014-02-08 03:07:46 +0000

                    Last backup: 2014-03-13 20:02:35 +0000

                    Size of backup disk: Too small

                              Backup size 931.19 GB < (Disk used 605.25 GB X 3)

          Time Machine details may not be accurate.

          All volumes being backed up may not be listed.

 

Top Processes by CPU:

               4%          WindowServer

               2%          AddressBookSourceSync

               1%          hidd

               0%          mtmd

               0%          Finder

 

Top Processes by Memory:

          29 MB          WindowServer

          26 MB          Finder

          16 MB          PluginProcess

          16 MB          com.apple.WebKit.Networking

          12 MB          Safari

 

Virtual Memory Information:

          36 MB          Free RAM

          594 MB          Active RAM

          580 MB          Inactive RAM

          1.04 GB          Wired RAM

          2.33 GB          Page-ins

          187 MB          Page-outs

MacBook Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9.2)

Posted on May 5, 2014 5:56 PM

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Q: Late 2011 13" Macbook Pro started running very slow! Any idea why?

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  • by Lexiepex,

    Lexiepex Lexiepex May 8, 2014 6:50 AM in response to vrave28
    Level 6 (10,536 points)
    Mac OS X
    May 8, 2014 6:50 AM in response to vrave28

    Start and run one of the apple apps. If nothing süecial, install a few non-apple ones, then an ertrecheck list for us, with the list of the installed apps, and so on as explained above.

    Lex

  • by vrave28,

    vrave28 vrave28 May 8, 2014 7:04 PM in response to Lexiepex
    Level 1 (4 points)
    Notebooks
    May 8, 2014 7:04 PM in response to Lexiepex

    I finnished reinstalling Maverix. Everything seems to be fine. Thanks a lot guys, especially you LexSchellings. We'll stay in touch and by Tuesday I'll post the first results of Etrecheck with the list of apps installed! Thanks again.

  • by vrave28,

    vrave28 vrave28 May 9, 2014 5:02 PM in response to Lexiepex
    Level 1 (4 points)
    Notebooks
    May 9, 2014 5:02 PM in response to Lexiepex

    Hardware Information:

              MacBook Pro (13-inch, Late 2011)

              MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro8,1

              1 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 CPU: 2 cores

              4 GB RAM

     

    Video Information:

              Intel HD Graphics 3000 - VRAM: 384 MB

     

    System Software:

              OS X 10.9.2 (13C1021) - Uptime: 0 days 15:39:13

     

    Disk Information:

              TOSHIBA MK7559GSXF disk0 : (750,16 GB)

                        EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209,7 MB

                        Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / [Startup]: 749,3 GB (578,56 GB free)

                        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

     

              MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-8A8 

     

    USB Information:

              Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

     

              Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)

     

              Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub

                        Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

     

              Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

     

    Thunderbolt Information:

              Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

     

    Gatekeeper:

              Mac App Store and identified developers

     

    Problem System Launch Daemons:

              [failed] com.apple.wdhelper.plist

     

    Launch Daemons:

              [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist Support

              [loaded] org.macosforge.xquartz.privileged_startx.plist Support

     

    Launch Agents:

              [loaded] org.macosforge.xquartz.startx.plist Support

     

    User Login Items:

              iTunesHelper

     

    Internet Plug-ins:

              Mathematica: Version: 9.0.1.4055068 Support

              FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 13.0.0.206 - SDK 10.6 Support

              Flash Player: Version: 13.0.0.206 - SDK 10.6 Support

              QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

              JavaAppletPlugin: Version: 14.9.0 - SDK 10.7 Check version

              Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9

     

    Audio Plug-ins:

              BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.9

              AirPlay: Version: 2.0 - SDK 10.9

              AppleAVBAudio: Version: 203.2 - SDK 10.9

              iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.9

     

    iTunes Plug-ins:

              Quartz Composer Visualizer: Version: 1.4 - SDK 10.9

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes:

              Flash Player  Support

     

    Time Machine:

              Time Machine not configured!

     

    Top Processes by CPU:

                   5%          coreaudiod

                   3%          WindowServer

                   2%          hidd

                   1%          Finder

                   1%          fontd

     

    Top Processes by Memory:

              172 MB          Safari

              111 MB          mds_stores

              70 MB          Finder

              49 MB          WindowServer

              49 MB          mds

     

    Virtual Memory Information:

              682 MB          Free RAM

              983 MB          Active RAM

              953 MB          Inactive RAM

              993 MB          Wired RAM

              7.90 GB          Page-ins

              1.14 GB          Page-outs

     


    So these are the Etrecheck results after reinstalling Mavericks and the folowing apps:

     

    1-Mathematica

    2-Algodoo

    3-FractalEditor, g4view, pmx, GCM, 123DMake

    4-Caffeine

    5-GNU Octave (wich required these additional apps XCode, XQuartz)

    6-Memory Diag

     

     

     

    Is everything ok now?

  • by MadMacs0,

    MadMacs0 MadMacs0 May 9, 2014 11:59 PM in response to vrave28
    Level 5 (4,801 points)
    May 9, 2014 11:59 PM in response to vrave28

    vrave28 wrote:

     

    Virtual Memory Information:

              682 MB          Free RAM

              983 MB          Active RAM

              953 MB          Inactive RAM

              993 MB          Wired RAM

              7.90 GB          Page-ins

              1.14 GB          Page-outs

     

    Is everything ok now?

    As far as I can see, everything but the Page-outs. Looks like you need to go shopping for more RAM. 4GB is the absolute minimum for Mavericks and it looks like it can't accommodate even those few apps you need.without the need to use virtual memory on your hard drive.

     

    Had not heard of Memory Diag before, so I gave it a try. If it hadn't specifically said it was built for Mavericks I would have told you to trash it, but for now I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt until I hear otherwise. Haven't tried the "Optimize" button yet as I don't know what it does. Almost all of the old memory utilities don't work properly with the new Mavericks memory management scheme and actually make things worse for most users.

     

    Mavericks wants to keep RAM as full as possible for maximum efficiency. The hope is that all the right software will be loaded when needed so it won't need to access your hard drive to get it or re-load it. Ideally, Page-outs would then be zero.

  • by Lexiepex,

    Lexiepex Lexiepex May 10, 2014 2:22 AM in response to vrave28
    Level 6 (10,536 points)
    Mac OS X
    May 10, 2014 2:22 AM in response to vrave28

    Hi vrave28,

    You have too many Page-outs, which could mean you have to add Ram, but also that there is a memory leaker in one of the now installed apps.

    MemoryDiag and Caffeine were not in your "wish list":

    Uninstall MemoryDiag. It just reads all info from already available data in OSX. The 'optimise' is already done by Mavericks itself, so it can only thwart the OS.

    Uninstall caffeine, counterproductive.

    After the uninstalls, restart and run only Mathematica and use it, then make a new etre list. If the Page-outs are again in the GB region, stop and post the list here;

    If the Page-outs are only a few MB, start Algodoo  (and let Mathematica running)  and use it a bit, then make a new list and again, when the Page-outs are in the GB region, stop and post the list;

    If the Page-outs are only a few MB again, start  Fractals (letting the other two run) and use it a bit, then make a new list and post it here.

    The two tools memorydiag and caffeine should never return in your system.

    Lex

  • by MadMacs0,

    MadMacs0 MadMacs0 May 10, 2014 2:24 AM in response to Lexiepex
    Level 5 (4,801 points)
    May 10, 2014 2:24 AM in response to Lexiepex

    LexSchellings wrote:

     

    You should also uninstall caffeine, counterproductive.

    I love Caffeine! Couldn't live without it. Only active when you click on it.

  • by Lexiepex,

    Lexiepex Lexiepex May 10, 2014 2:46 AM in response to MadMacs0
    Level 6 (10,536 points)
    Mac OS X
    May 10, 2014 2:46 AM in response to MadMacs0

    Come on Mad, you do not need it! You are better than that! But that is not the issue here:

    My problem here is, that the OP made a wishlist, on which also are hacked apps. And we would like to find out which on that list is the cuplrit for the Page-Outs. Now suddenly he is installing other "tools" that were not on his list, and so corrupting the thinking process...

    Lex

  • by MadMacs0,

    MadMacs0 MadMacs0 May 10, 2014 2:56 AM in response to Lexiepex
    Level 5 (4,801 points)
    May 10, 2014 2:56 AM in response to Lexiepex

     

  • by vrave28,

    vrave28 vrave28 May 10, 2014 5:46 AM in response to Lexiepex
    Level 1 (4 points)
    Notebooks
    May 10, 2014 5:46 AM in response to Lexiepex

    I installed Memory Diag just to see the difference between now and a couple of days ago. I thoght that since it was on app store wasn't harmfull. Sorry if I messed it up. After uninstalling and then running Mathematica, Algadoo, Fractal Editor, GMX pageouts were  0B. Then i ran octave and the results were as follows:

     

     

    Hardware Information:

              MacBook Pro (13-inch, Late 2011)

              MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro8,1

              1 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 CPU: 2 cores

              4 GB RAM

     

    Video Information:

              Intel HD Graphics 3000 - VRAM: 384 MB

     

    System Software:

              OS X 10.9.2 (13C1021) - Uptime: 0 days 0:25:35

     

    Disk Information:

              TOSHIBA MK7559GSXF disk0 : (750,16 GB)

                        EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209,7 MB

                        Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / [Startup]: 749,3 GB (575,6 GB free)

                        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

     

              MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-8A8 

     

    USB Information:

              Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub

                        Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

     

              Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

     

              Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)

     

              Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

     

    Thunderbolt Information:

              Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

     

    Gatekeeper:

              Mac App Store and identified developers

     

    Launch Daemons:

              [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist Support

              [loaded] com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist Support

              [loaded] org.macosforge.xquartz.privileged_startx.plist Support

     

    Launch Agents:

              [loaded] com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist Support

              [loaded] org.macosforge.xquartz.startx.plist Support

     

    User Login Items:

              iTunesHelper

              SpeechSynthesisServer

     

    Internet Plug-ins:

              Mathematica: Version: 9.0.1.4055068 Support

              FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 13.0.0.206 - SDK 10.6 Support

              Flash Player: Version: 13.0.0.206 - SDK 10.6 Support

              QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

              JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 7 Update 55 Check version

              Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9

     

    Audio Plug-ins:

              BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.9

              AirPlay: Version: 2.0 - SDK 10.9

              AppleAVBAudio: Version: 203.2 - SDK 10.9

              iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.9

     

    iTunes Plug-ins:

              Quartz Composer Visualizer: Version: 1.4 - SDK 10.9

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes:

              Flash Player  Support

              Java  Support

     

    Time Machine:

              Time Machine not configured!

     

    Top Processes by CPU:

                  30%          Algodoo

                   3%          FractalEditor

                   2%          WindowServer

                   1%          fontd

                   0%          MathKernel

     

    Top Processes by Memory:

              135 MB          Safari

              131 MB          Algodoo

              131 MB          com.apple.IconServicesAgent

              106 MB          ocspd

              101 MB          com.apple.WebKit.WebContent

     

    Virtual Memory Information:

              28 MB          Free RAM

              1.49 GB          Active RAM

              1.52 GB          Inactive RAM

              984 MB          Wired RAM

              1.47 GB          Page-ins

              20 KB          Page-outs

  • by Lexiepex,

    Lexiepex Lexiepex May 10, 2014 6:59 AM in response to vrave28
    Level 6 (10,536 points)
    Mac OS X
    May 10, 2014 6:59 AM in response to vrave28

    If you want to see what is going on, use ActivityMonitor in the Utilities folder: it a load of information, and is much better than memorydiag.

    The list looks rather good now, I propose to remove SpeechsynthesisServer from the LoginItems, and start it manually when necessary.

    How does it feel now? passed the first station with the first prize!

    Lex

  • by vrave28,

    vrave28 vrave28 May 10, 2014 7:22 AM in response to Lexiepex
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    May 10, 2014 7:22 AM in response to Lexiepex

    SpeechsynthesisServer activates when there are speakable items right? Actually I work very late at night sometimes and I need a reminder of the time, that's why i activated time announcement. Beside this, I feel happy and my mac feels quite relieved I guess. So everything is more than OK! I started downloading iWork package now, but i see on purchaces that I have iPhoto and Garadgeband but not iMovie. Do I have to rebuy it?

  • by Lexiepex,

    Lexiepex Lexiepex May 10, 2014 8:01 AM in response to vrave28
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    May 10, 2014 8:01 AM in response to vrave28

    OK, got your point. Going forward with a good feeling

    iWork is not there anymore for Mavericks: the apps Pages, Numbers, Keynote are separate apps now.

    As long as you had it from the appstore you can redownload iMovie afaik.

    Lex

  • by vrave28,

    vrave28 vrave28 May 10, 2014 8:31 AM in response to Lexiepex
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    May 10, 2014 8:31 AM in response to Lexiepex

    iWork and iLife are forced habbits from OSX Lion.

  • by Lexiepex,

    Lexiepex Lexiepex May 10, 2014 8:34 AM in response to vrave28
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    May 10, 2014 8:34 AM in response to vrave28

    at your age habbits already

  • by Lexiepex,

    Lexiepex Lexiepex May 10, 2014 8:41 AM in response to Lexiepex
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    May 10, 2014 8:41 AM in response to Lexiepex

    BTW when you want to save a pages document: you can use "export" intead of "save" and then you can choose different formats (pages, pdf, doc etc).

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