Jane Elizabeth Smith

Q: how do you wipe a apple mac ibook G4 without the password?

I just bought an apple iBook G4 power PC off ebay & the seller hasn't wiped all their stuff from the hard drive. I don't have the Admin password or install/restore disk.  Can anyone tell me how I can make a clean install and make the ibook mine? Thanks.

iBook, Mac OS X (10.5.8), G4 power PC

Posted on May 8, 2014 3:14 PM

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  • by K Shaffer,Helpful

    K Shaffer K Shaffer May 8, 2014 7:14 PM in response to Jane Elizabeth Smith
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    May 8, 2014 7:14 PM in response to Jane Elizabeth Smith

    You'd have to try and see what recourse you may have through

    the eBay rules, since the computer should've had its Mac OS X

    install-restore disc set, as part of the license to use the System.

     

    A later retail DVD full install disc such as Leopard 10.5 may do

    if you were to see about finding one from an Amazon reseller

    or maybe someone who has the correct (retail) either Tiger or
    Leopard. The system depends on what the iBook G4 has for

    hardware; if the iBook G4 is an early one with smaller than an

    867MHz PPC processor, it won't upgrade past Tiger 10.4.11.

     

    Apple had been a spotty source for a generic white label DVD

    replacement disc to install in supported PPC Macs, a full version

    of Tiger 10.4, on one disc; and another disc, for Leopard 10.5.

    The source of these had been AppleCare or Support, not retail.

     

    And some persons at Apple were unable to verify their existence

    until actually entering purchase codes into their database, as if

    they were invisible, according to feedback from US vintage users

    of PowerPC G4/G5 computers that did not have original discs.

     

    So if you can locate a product Serial Number, sometimes in the

    battery compartment, and call Apple Support or Applecare to

    order a replacement OS X system installer on DVD, you'd need

    to supply that serial number in an attempt to find out if they have

    anything at all. And, also have a method of payment (a CC.)

     

    Not sure how things differ on the England side of the Atlantic...

    Here, on east side of the Pacific, things can be very different, too.

     

    Usually grey-label discs for a specific series build model year

    Mac won't do anything if attempts are made to use them in

    another different Mac model. And would be an as-shipped OS.

     

    Can't say as I have a workable resolution for your circumstance.

    The PowerPC hardware limits you to no later than Leopard 10.5.8

    and that should be only if the processor is faster than 867MHz. If

    not, then the latest OS X is Tiger 10.4 from DVD, & these systems

    get their last update via Software Update online, in a Combo file.

     

    Perhaps you can better identify the computer, and see if a regional

    Apple affiliate or specialist has access to a supported OS X installer.

     

    That is the way to perform a complete erase, install, in most models.

    Be sure if you buy a system DVD that it is a retail one and not a

    disc set from a different or other Mac computer, as they rarely work.

     

    Good luck !

  • by Jane Elizabeth Smith,

    Jane Elizabeth Smith Jane Elizabeth Smith May 9, 2014 6:37 AM in response to K Shaffer
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    May 9, 2014 6:37 AM in response to K Shaffer

    Thank you very much for the information.  The ibook G4 ppc has got Mac OS X.5.1 on it & it was built in 2005 so not a bad spec I think.  The person who sold it to me apparently hasn't done much with it since he bought it off someone else who is the named admin user of the computer.  I don't know what he's been doing with it whilst he owned it, but he doesn't know the password either.  I get the impression he doesn't know much about macs or computer technology at all.

    I have had a dig around looking for old disks from when I had a previous macbook Pro & have found a Tiger install disk so I might try that.  It looks to be non specific to any particular mac computer.  Am i right in thinking that to load this on to the ibook, I can set it up as a new administrator?  Thank you so much for your help.  I really appreciate it.

  • by a brody,

    a brody a brody May 9, 2014 10:22 AM in response to Jane Elizabeth Smith
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    May 9, 2014 10:22 AM in response to Jane Elizabeth Smith

    MacBook Pro discs will not work with iBooks.

  • by dalstott,Solvedanswer

    dalstott dalstott May 9, 2014 11:01 AM in response to Jane Elizabeth Smith
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    May 9, 2014 11:01 AM in response to Jane Elizabeth Smith

    The retail Tiger install disk looks like this and will work.

    images.jpeg

     

    The Mac Book Pro specific disk looks like this and won't work

    1273599197_92928296_5-Apple-Restore-Recovery-Mac-iBook-eMac-MacBook-Pro-PowerMac-OSX-Tiger-Panther-Cheetah-For-Sale-1273599197.jpg

  • by Jane Elizabeth Smith,Helpful

    Jane Elizabeth Smith Jane Elizabeth Smith May 10, 2014 3:40 AM in response to dalstott
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    May 10, 2014 3:40 AM in response to dalstott

    Thanks so much for your help I have suceeded in wiping the data from the iBook and installing Tiger on the iBook and creating a new admin user & password.  In order to play some old games again, I now want to put classic support onto the iBook so am looking for ways to do that now.  (the main reason for wanting an old ppc mac)  This is my next 'project' if anyone has any helpful ideas .... Thank you.

  • by dalstott,

    dalstott dalstott May 10, 2014 8:16 AM in response to Jane Elizabeth Smith
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    May 10, 2014 8:16 AM in response to Jane Elizabeth Smith

    If you are going to run Classic Environment then stick to Tiger and upgrade to 10.4.11. Classic will not work with 10.5 and above. I have it on an iBook G4 1.2GHz and run a few games that perform as well or better than they did on native OS 7-9 Macs.

     

    http://support.apple.com/downloads/Mac_OS_X_10_4_11_Combo_Update__PPC_

     

    http://www.everymac.com/systems/by_capability/macs-that-support-macos-9-classic. html

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Environment

     

    You need a Mac OS 9.2.2 system folder  placed in the Mac HD folder in order to activate Classic. If you don't have a Mac OS 9.2.2 system folder  then read these links for an alternative solution. 

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/25157466#25157466

     

    https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/macos9/nR2QQCKaCFA  

     

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  • by Jane Elizabeth Smith,

    Jane Elizabeth Smith Jane Elizabeth Smith May 12, 2014 3:02 PM in response to dalstott
    Level 1 (10 points)
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    May 12, 2014 3:02 PM in response to dalstott

    Thank you so much for all your detailed help! It's so useful.  I will crack on with my next software 'project' as soon as I get chance to do so ...  I'm really grateful for your help.  Will let you know how I get on xx