When i deleted my photos from my iPhoto it deleted them from Facebook also. Any ideas how to stop it happening again? Lost 40k photos

1 - read the documentation - that is the exact documented way the iPHoto/FB interface works - http://support.apple.com/kb/PH2432?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

It is really, really clear

Important: If you delete photos and albums from iPhoto, they’re deleted from your Facebook page, along with any posted comments. You can’t undo this action. To delete photos and albums from iPhoto without deleting them from Facebook, first remove the Facebook account from iPhoto. Choose iPhoto > Preferences, and then click Accounts. Click to select the Facebook account (below the Accounts subhead on the left), and then click the Delete ➖ button in the lower-left corner of the Accounts pane.

2 - you can log out of FB in iPhoto and never log in again to break the link

3 - if you do not want the two way sync as documented between iPhoto and FB then do not use iPhoto to upload to FB - use a browser or other upload tool

LN

If i use the button on fb that says create album and take them that route out of iphoto is that what you mean? Thanks!!

No, you have to sign out of Facebook in iPhoto. I don't know your iPhoto version, but in iPhoto '11 (version 9.5.1) you open the Preference panel from the "iPhoto > Preferences" menu, and then open the "Accounts" tab.

Select your Facebook account in the sidebar and press the "-" button to remove it.

As Larry explained, this will remove the connection between Facebook and iPhoto, and if you delete photos from iPhoto, they will no longer be removed from your Facebook page. But you will have to use the web interface to upload to Facebook, because iPhoto can no longer access your Facebook account.

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3 - if you do not want the two way sync as documented between iPhoto and FB then do not use iPhoto to upload to FB - use a browser or other upload tool

Log into FB in Safari and use Safari to upload to FB - see the user tipon How to access your iPhoto files using the upload media browser

LN

It's unfortunate that Apple doesn't care about this problem and other users are apologists for it

Crazy statement - what is truly unfortunate is that a few people can not understand simple English - Apple has no problem on this point - they implemented a feature and clearly documented how it works - it is not their problem that a (very) few people do not bother to read about how things work and assume (which are everyone knows ankles "An *** out of You an Me) that it works different that Apple documents it does - and then they expand on their incompetence by complaining that things work exactly as documented

The documentation is clear - if you post to FB form input there is a two way sync (same with Flickr) do any change including deletion in either place is synced to the other place

And additionally FB is NOT a place to save photos - the photos on FB are very low quality suitable only for FB display

so give a read of exactly how Apple documents that this works - iPhoto '11: Publish your photos to Facebook

Note especially the extremely detailed statement (emphasis added for the weak readers with comprehension issues)

Important: If you delete photos and albums from iPhoto, they’re deleted from your Facebook page, along with any posted comments. You can’t undo this action. To delete photos and albums from iPhoto without deleting them from Facebook, first remove the Facebook account from iPhoto. Choose iPhoto > Preferences, and then click Accounts. Click to select the Facebook account (below the Accounts subhead on the left), and then click the Delete ➖ button in the lower-left corner of the Accounts pane.

LN

You can't if you use iPhoto to sync to FB. That's what sync means in this case. Any changes with the photos synced to FB in iPhoto will reflect in those same photos on FB.

If you export the photos out of iPhoto and upload to FB via your browser you can do what you want with the photos in iPhoto.

OT

It's unfortunate that Apple doesn't care about this problem and other users are apologists for it. It means you cannot manage storage space effectively on multiple computers while maintaining the ability to sync to Facebook. On SSD-equpped machines, storage space is at a premium, and having to work around this oversight is a colossal pain. It means I need to store 6 copies of my photos on 3 computers to be able to use the functionality -- 1 copy on each computer, plus another copy for a time machine backup of each computer.

Many users such as myself like to travel with a computer, and offload photos from SD card, upload them, then only preserve the copy on the SD card and the computer until turning home to sync with a master gallery on a computer with larger primary storage. This is hardly an obscure edge case.

Crazy statement - what is truly unfortunate is that a few people can not understand simple English - Apple has no problem on this point - they implemented a feature and clearly documented how it works - it is not their problem that a (very) few people do not bother to read about how things work and assume (which are everyone knows ankles "An *** out of You an Me) that it works different that Apple documents it does - and then they expand on their incompetence by complaining that things work exactly as documented

The documentation is clear - if you post to FB form input there is a two way sync (same with Flickr) do any change including deletion in either place is synced to the other place

And additionally FB is NOT a place to save photos - the photos on FB are very low quality suitable only for FB display

You seem like a very angry person and make many wild assumptions about folks here. My complaint is that the implementation is very poor and does not meet user needs, not that it isn't documented properly. You also seem to "assume" that virtually everyone reads the documentation. Actually, I'd argue almost nobody reads the documentation. This is why they put in warnings saying "this action will delete all synced galleries" when you try to delete. Speaking of things people don't read, you did not read any of my post detailing why the behavior Apple has chosen is poor. I did not lose any photos. I just don't want to have to keep 6 copies of them. For someone who is so dead set on maligning every other user who wants something different from what you want, and insulting their reading comprehension, well, you might wish to be more careful in the future.

1-way sync is very common and would be very easy to implement.

I'd argue that the number of people who wish to delete their Flickr and Facebook galleries and all comments and tags merely because they're trying to free up disk space on one of their local computers is very small, and nobody's using iPhoto to browse their Facebook/Flickr galleries, since iPhoto doesn't bother to sync back any of the metadata -- you need to go to the respective sites to see it anyway.

Precisely BECAUSE, as you say, FB is not a place to save photos and the quality is low, the "sync back to computer" functionality is relatively pointless anyway. If I want my photos on a computer, I copy them directly from the SD card, not from a site like FB of Flickr. One-way sync would make far more sense, and giving users the option would be the best of both worlds.

I am merely providing feedback. I do not know why you get so angry on behalf of product managers you do not know.

rconti wrote:

Many users such as myself like to travel with a computer, and offload photos from SD card, upload them, then only preserve the copy on the SD card and the computer until turning home to sync with a master gallery on a computer with larger primary storage. This is hardly an obscure edge case.

Apple's Icloud with Yosemite and IOS8 on devices is suppose to do just that - synchronize between devices so when you get home the pictures you took with our devices will magically be on you primary computer.

You may also want to look into other "clouds" available -- including clouds you can set up yourself (WD offers make your own cloud - haven't looked into it as don't need it)

My complaint is that the implementation is very poor and does not meet user needs,

Oh I see you are the final authority on what all users need and al software must be implemented to you personal specifications - I did not know that (and I suspect that no one else does either) - in fact that is an extremely arrogant attitude

You also seem to "assume" that virtually everyone reads the documentation. Actually, I'd argue almost nobody reads the documentation.

WOW - you actually believe that no one reads documentation - once again crazy talk - I guess some people do not and those people screw up a lot since they have no idea what they are doing

why the behavior Apple has chosen is poor.

Again an impressively arrogant attitude - and contraindicated but the incredible success Apple has had in all fields including iPhoto and Facebook integration - I have not seen your far superior implementation taking market share away form Apple

1-way sync is very common and would be very easy to implement.

Of course - but that is not what Apple choose nor is what Apple has been so successful with - if that s what you want t h=is available by using a web browser to upload to FB - but then the finial authority on all software would already now that

And of course as with the rest of your post you do not bother to read directions - this forum in NOT a place to provide feedback or to reach Apple - it is (again as documented which unlike you most people do read) a user to user support forum where experienced users who'd do read documentation help other users (including ones who choose not toe read) use the software the way it is implemented

And amazing that your arrogant posts attacking others lead you to assume (there is you downfall again) that anyone who does read documentation and takes time to explain it to other who do not is "angry"

Another very bad assumption on your part

Bye - Have a nice day

LN

notcloudy wrote:

Apple's Icloud with Yosemite and IOS8 on devices is suppose to do just that - synchronize between devices so when you get home the pictures you took with our devices will magically be on you primary computer.

You may also want to look into other "clouds" available -- including clouds you can set up yourself (WD offers make your own cloud - haven't looked into it as don't need it)

Thanks for the constructive feedback! iCloud sync generally works well, though I believe it's time-limited-- You'll have to import them to your library from the iCloud sync to make it "permanent" within a few months. I'm also using CloudStation on my Synology NAS, and I use Dropbox on all my computers although not for photos, because I'm still using their free account. Keeping iPhoto libraries up to date is not generally an issue. Though I admit 2 of my 3 computers are on Yosemite and I am using iOS 8, I haven't specifically explored the differences in iCloud behavior on the new versions.

The deleting comment is more around temporarily storing them in one iPhoto library, uploading to Facebook, then deleting from iPhoto without deleting from FB -- it's not so much about how to transfer the photos around. It's pretty easy to shoot 15 or 20GB of photos in a day with a modern camera, and you might find yourself without an internet connection, or at the very least, too spotty to copy that much data overnight.

For example, on a recent trip, my workflow was to load photos from my RX-100 via SD card into my MacBook Air which only has 128GB of storage.

So I'd copy all photos to iPhoto, flag favorites, edit, add to FB album in iPhoto, let that upload, then export to disk, let that sync to my CloudStation folder back on my NAS at home in the US, then finally delete all un-flagged photos in iPhoto (the "rejects"). By the end of the trip, even the 15GB of all of the flagged, edited photos took up too much space (in addition to all of the originals I was storing on disk), so I deleted the Facebook sync so I that was able to delete them from iPhoto.

Of course, I kept all my originals, but those were in 3 places: SD card, CloudStation folder on my Air, and on my NAS back at home (plus any devices that were powered on and syncing to CloudStation).

This worked great in Iceland where I had 50up/50down internet, but not so great at an agriturismo in Italy where I was getting something like 50% packet loss on their point-to-point wifi internet connection!

When I get home, every single original picture goes onto my master iPhoto library on the Mac Pro at home, but I treat the libraries on my laptops as transient places for editing and uploading, then deleting. This is not just a multiple-computer problem, though -- I am sure many users just wish to upload then delete, and never keep their originals.

LarryHN wrote:

Crazy statement - what is truly unfortunate is that a few people can not understand simple English - Apple has no problem on this point - they implemented a feature and clearly documented how it works - it is not their problem that a (very) few people do not bother to read about how things work and assume (which are everyone knows ankles "An *** out of You an Me) that it works different that Apple documents it does - and then they expand on their incompetence by complaining that things work exactly as documented

Apple prided itself on being intuitive - easy to use - etc. so that is one part of the problem.

Apple has made its documentation harder to come by by putting it on-line only and not available in PDF format (IS08 only exceptions).

And, its not a few people you don't read instructions - it more on the line of majority even if just 51% - as they expect to be taught/shown by someone else.

True to some degree - But most of the people who expect to be taught appreciate people taking personal time to assist them - only a very few are arrogant enough to insist that only they know the "correct" way to do everything and that anyone who disagrees with their superior knowledge is "angry"

However I disagree that a small minority read directions - I have read tens of thousands of posts here and helped thousands of people and by far the vast majority do read directions and the vast majority of the ones who did not are appreciative of being give then information - only one in a few thousand attacks the helper rather than appreciates the help - even though you are fairly new here I suspect you have already seen that

LN

rconti wrote:

For example, on a recent trip, my workflow was to load photos from my RX-100 via SD card into my MacBook Air which only has 128GB of storage.

You are a professional photographer? with real digital camera - have you thought of adding a removable passport style drive or two or three in your travels?

sizes have increased and they are the size of an smart phone.

I suspect the use-case you put forth is actually the *majority* case; myself (and most folks I know) think of iPhoto as a photo-tool with FB as being the public viewing platform. The "SHARE" icon is really for the convenience (in the perspective of the User-Story I have just described).

To be honest, when I encountered it, I was pretty surprised that it the UX didn't follow the lines "This has been shared on FB; delete it from there as well?"