Mac Pro 3.1 black screen, loud fans

Hello community,


I have a Mac Pro 3.1, 2008 dual 2.8ghz computer. I bought it cheaply as the original owner claimed it had a problem where it would randomly sleep, and a hard reset was neccesary in order to restart the computer. On turning on the computer myself I soon saw what he meant, all of a sudden, quite randomly the screen would drop out entirely and about 8 seconds later the fans go on full whack. This could happen before the computer boots, or could happen 15 minutes later. Sometimes it would happen more often when say I watched a youtube clip on full size in 720/1080p. This shut down can only be stopped by hard resetting the unit.


Originally i thought it might of been the graphics card (Nvidia 8800 GT) which upon researching had found out there have been issues with this graphics card for other people in the past, however they speak of glitchy graphics, over-heating and 'baking' the card. I tested the temps on the gfx card and they were not abnormally high at all. Infact on monitoring all the temperatures when the computer was on i noticed no abnormality with any temps apart from maybe the north bridge which was max 62 C when idling. But my macbook pro hits 75 C on the CPU when using intensive software (logic pro etc). I also tested the gfx card in both available pcie slots aswell as cleaning out excess dust from the gfx card using compressed air.


The computer has a WD velociraptor 128gb 10k rpm HDD installed. I tested the computer with a 128gb SSD which i know worked. I managed to install snow leopard from a DVD onto it before a crash and the computer worked for maybe 20-25 mins then it blacked out again. Not the hard drive then. Tested all the ram (6gb), moved them around etc, no red dimm lights on either board. Not the ram.


The only main components left really are the power supply and the logic board. I have no red leds on the logic board lighting up, so no obvious failures. And when the computer is on it works a treat.


Does this sound like the PSU is dying/dead? I thought this could be an easy software fix, but am now chasing the hardware train....


Any help would be greatly appreciated and thanks in advance!


Cheers!


Catro

Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Jun 2, 2014 3:00 PM

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Jan 21, 2017 1:48 PM in response to Chemist13

By default, Hardware sets the fans to maximum speed as a Fail-Safe. When software is running properly, it periodically sets the fans to desired speed in a feedback loop based on measured temperatures. When the software is running normally, the fans operate in a sensible range based on temperatures.


When the software crashes or hangs, the cooling fan speeds do not get their periodic re-setting, and the fail-safe Hardware runs them up to maximum speed. So the fans running on high is a symptom, not a cause.

Jan 21, 2017 1:52 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

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Mar 7, 2017 6:16 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

I have exactly the same problem. I have a macpro 3.1 OSX 10.11.6, every time I turn it on, right after I put my user password tries to show the desktop and it does not pass 10 seconds when the screen goes black and the fans start to sound very loud. Every time this happens I have to force the power off by pressing the power button for a few seconds until the computer turns off. Then I turn it on again and pass the same several times, black screen randomly, without being able to get the real cause. I've tried cleaning the computer physically, dusting, disconnecting all peripherals, disconnecting additional disks, changing graphics card, changing ram memories, reinstalling the system (I've tried all versions of Yosemite and all versions of The Captain) Without any success.

Mar 7, 2017 6:49 PM in response to PNTDXTR

Does it work the same in Safe Mode? (hold down Shift at Startup).


Safe Mode loads a minimal set of extensions, including NO third-party extensions, and runs the display in Simple Mode, rather than the usual accelerated, interrupt driven mode. Screen redraw will be very slow.


Safe Mode does a disk repair as it starts up (which takes an extra five minutes) then demands you username and password, even if you normally auto-login. Safe Mode tries very hard NOT to use your settings, but to take the defaults for everything it possibly can, so sometimes the screen will be set to a default size and resolution. Changes you make in Safe Mode WILL "stick", so Safe Mode can be used to fix otherwise deadly errors such as setting screen resolution to a nonsense value (which would make the screen go blank).

Apr 7, 2017 10:47 PM in response to Catro91

HI,


it's a google chrome problem believe it or not, try clean install OS or window whatever that your using and never install google chrome ever. That will resolve the issue, at least my case. (Mac Pro 3.1 El Capitan Bootcamp window 7)

It may be related to hardware accel option that chrome has. (even if you install chrome and don't use chrome, chrome will still cause the problem. so, never install it on your system!) You may turn off the hardware accel option in chrome but I will just stay away from chrome although i really likeit. i am using firefox now, no issue at all. After long days of suffering from black screen and loud fan...now i am finally in peace.. thanks god.

Apr 8, 2017 3:32 AM in response to Catro91

Hi, i am sorry the problem was not the Chrome. After everal days, black screen and loud fan issue happened again....

I just gave up. I have tried thousand different ways to fix the problem.. sleepless nights and days. now I don't wanna waste my time on this stupid problem...have done enough. farewell to my 9 years old mac pro. you have served me well enough. hope you guys find a way to fix this..probably not by apple.. ( I kind of miss the Apple of Steve Jobs..I did not have single issue using my mac those days...after he passed away, so many problems using bootcamp. I think they are not pushing hard enough anymore)

May 6, 2017 8:42 AM in response to Catro91

Try to disconnect the front fan and the rear fan when your mac is down. Start without the fans and the problem is fixed. Stop the mac. Connect the fans and it's done. Worked for me. It seems my mac had overheated because I ran it without the cover. The motherboard seems to memorize an overheating. Unplug the fans resets this memory.

Sep 3, 2014 7:25 AM in response to Catro91

I had a similar problem. Old mac pro and randomly the monitors would go black.


Replying to this incase anyone else has this problem…


Tried all the restarts under the sun, reset the board only to get temporary fix. It got to the point where the monitors would black out repeatedly after a few minutes of resetting.


My final solution (May not work for everyone): Remove the graphics card and check to see if the copper fins in the heat sink are "caked in dust". On my ATI card i can see this from the bottom end. I took the hoover and placed it at the opening and the bit of the hoover nozzle that stuck out I covered that with my finger for maximum suction, I repeated this process from the opposite side where the air exits, after a few seconds the suction was enough to clean out the heat sink and the fan started to spin with the power of the suction.


I have replaced the card and now my mac is running very quiet for the first time in years. On removing the graphics card I noticed the bay was very hot including the card. I'm guessing the card cuts out to protect itself from overheating.


Don't forget to wear an anti-static wristband or discharge yourself first. Using a hoover was a drastic last step. Don't think an air duster would solve the problem as well as suction.

Mar 12, 2016 2:47 AM in response to bjbest

I Have a similar problem on my macpro 3.1 2008.

running 10.9.5 but i had the same problem under capitaN before I downgrade

The screens goes black silently and after few second all the fans start spinning high speed. At that point there is only force shutdown to do

TThe problem seemed to happen when I work on editing video or compositing in after effect, but it also occurr when running avast scan or backup data copying on exter al drive. So it seems to be independent from CPU or graphic load.

PPlus I had the same problem with 3 different gpu ( gtx570 Radeon 7950 and Radeon 2600xt ) the fact that It does the same with 2600xt makes me say it s not a power gpu matter because this card require very low power to run.


I Also unplugged every external drives, pcieusb3,0 card without progress.

I Ran reset pram smc hardware test (5hours ram test) everything stayed green.

SO so now I am thinking it could be osx problem OR power supply unit.

I Will try to remove all internal drive except osx and restart from 2dimm ram instead of 8 32gb

though this is exhausting and really **** me off if any of you get progress please post!!

CCheers

paul

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