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will yosemite support rosetta?

so PowerPC app users can upgrade?

iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Jun 3, 2014 2:06 AM

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Jun 3, 2014 4:40 AM in response to dave leo

You can purchase OS X 10.6.8 server from Apple (phone orders only) for $20. Then install it within Parallels Desktop v9 on Mavericks. Providing you have at least 8GB of memory in the new hardware, you can then have your Rosetta solution in a Virtual Machine that runs concurrently with Mavericks.


Ideally, you should determine if the vendor has updated their application for contemporary OS X compatibility, and if true, then Rosetta would not be the impediment for a newer release of OS X. Unless, of course, you are dealing with a large AppleWorks document inventory. In that case, AppleWorks would be supported in the first paragraph solution.

Jun 3, 2014 6:29 AM in response to petermac87

petermac87 wrote:


I would highly doubt it. Rosetta was only introduced in Snow Leopard basically as a courtesy to those who had not yet updated their software from the long defunct PPC platform.


Correction: Rosetta was introduced in 10.4.4 (Tiger). And that happened at a time when nobody could have updated their software.


But anywho: chances of it coming back are zero.

Jun 3, 2014 6:33 AM in response to dave leo

Absolutely zero. Two things:


1) The core of Rosetta was not written by Apple, but by Transitive Corporation and was licensed to Apple. That company was bought out by IBM, who now own the code.


2) Rosetta also required the presence of other PowerPC code which existed in all versions of OS X up to Snow Leopard. In Lion, Apple stripped all remaining PPC code from the OS. There's no longer a way for Rosetta to function.

Jun 3, 2014 7:41 AM in response to dave leo

dave leo wrote:


so PowerPC app users can upgrade?

Freehand MX users, such as yourself, face a bleak future.


Purchased, owned and "retired" by Adobe, there is no easy way to open, modify or otherwise use Freehand data files, without a continuing ability to run Freehand MX itself.


Your future continues to be hoping for one or more of the following:


1) Owning older Mac hardware (prior to July, 2011), which will natively boot and run Snow Leopard and will not fail at an inoppertune time;


2) A continuation of the ability to purchase and install Snow Leopard Server into virtualization programs, such as Parallels; or


3) Ultimately migrating to an alternative software package to express your future creative desires.

Jun 3, 2014 9:58 AM in response to VikingOSX

VikingOSX wrote:


I don't know how Freehand got into this discussion (Michael ?)...

Well, that's the problem with Level 5+: you cannot recall each and every prior post you made to this forum! 😁


You and I have a history with this OP:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4664348


And that history includes the information that his PowerPC app is Freehand MX.


While I was initially excited and hopeful by the information included in your post:


... the latest LibreOfficeindicates it can open Freehand documents from version 1 through version 11 on OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7 (32-bit) and OS 10.8 through current Mavericks (64-bit).



I used a sample Freehand MX file that was sent to me some time ago by a Freehand MX user and here are the results:


Sample file opened in Freehand MX installed into Snow Leopard Server in Parallels:


User uploaded file


Sample file opened in LibreOffice v4.2.4.2:


User uploaded file

[click on images to enlarge]


It appears that LibreOffice has much work yet to do to be a one-on-one replacement for opening existing Freehand MX files accurately.

Jun 3, 2014 4:12 PM in response to MlchaelLAX

Well, Michael ... I am spending too much time in front of the LCD. 😉 Thanks for the link reminder.


If I had any Freehand MX documents here to test, and saw results as you have shown with LibreOffice, then I would not have recommended it. It appears, we are back to a OS X Snow Leopard server/Parallels solution, with Freehand and Rosetta.

Jun 3, 2014 5:30 PM in response to VikingOSX

VikingOSX wrote:


If I had any Freehand MX documents here to test, and saw results as you have shown with LibreOffice, then I would not have recommended it....

And actually since my sample file is not very complex, a more complicated drawing would probably engender more differences. But it is impressive that the sample Freehand file opened in LibreOffice has the rudimentary vector drawing embodied in this simple sample!


I think that it is terrific that the folks over at LibreOffice are at least moving forward with the idea of opening Freehand files, as the Freehand users have been at a dead end since almost before Snow Leopard (which at least Adobe issued a patch so Freehand would continue to work in Snow Leopard).


Also others have pointed to LibreOffice plug-ins that may work with other aspects of Appleworks drawing and spreadsheet files, to that these Appleworks users also have hope for the future! 🙂


Now if only LibreOffice would have a database module and plug-in for Appleworks databases! 😉


Snow Leopard Server in virtualization is only a stop-gap measure to buy these Freehand/Appleworks users (and other aspects of PowerPC usage) more time and should not be relied on as a long term solution to the problem.


It has worked in Lion, and then Mt. Lion and Mavericks and maybe in Yosemite...?

Jun 7, 2014 1:12 AM in response to MlchaelLAX

Hello,

MlchaelLAX wrote:


Also others have pointed to LibreOffice plug-ins that may work with other aspects of Appleworks drawing and spreadsheet files, to that these Appleworks users also have hope for the future! 🙂


Now if only LibreOffice would have a database module and plug-in for Appleworks databases! 😉


LibreOffice does have a database module, see http://www.libreoffice.org/discover/base/ .


Concerning AppleWorks database/spreadsheet files, a basic filter will appear in LibreOffice4.3 which tries to convert the main data of such documents into a spreadsheet, ... ( If you want to test it, you need to download LibreOffice 4.3.0 Beta2 in http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ )

Jun 7, 2014 6:17 AM in response to dave leo

dave leo wrote:


so PowerPC app users can upgrade?

No, Rosetta is dead and gone. You can scrape the bottom of the barrell for ways to try to run it again, but quite seriously, if you are still running PPC programs then you need to think seriously about upgrading to Intel versions. I would doudt that even virtualisation will be continued much further into the future to support the old, slow, buggy PPC programs. Bite the bullet and upgrade your programs.


Cheers


Pete

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