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Q: Batteries - Is it worth taking to the store?

I took my battery out and put it straight back in, as i'd bought a new battery but then realised it wasn't the right battery anyway. When i turned it back on, its saying there are no batteries available... It's definitely all connected properly... I've got an appointment scheduled tommorow, but i know i'll get there and they'll say theres nothing they can do... or say it'll cost £500 to fix.... Anyone have any thoughts?

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Posted on Jun 3, 2014 1:43 PM

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  • by K Shaffer,Helpful

    K Shaffer K Shaffer Jun 3, 2014 2:00 PM in response to Craigasaurus
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    Jun 3, 2014 2:00 PM in response to Craigasaurus

    •edited: thought for a moment you bought a new one...

    but the first link should help try & diagnose an old one.

     

    How long did you charge the computer's new battery

    before turning on the unit? Also, if the MacBook is

    an older model, it may need a calibration. There are

    times, too, where a System Management Controller

    (SMC) reset may help...

     

    •Intel-based Macs: Resetting the System Management Controller (SMC)

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964

     

    •Apple Portables:

    Calibrating your computer's battery for best performance

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1490?viewlocale=en_US

     

    •Apple - Batteries:

    http://www.apple.com/batteries/

     

    •Apple Portables - Troubleshooting MagSafe Adapters:

    http://support.apple.com/kb/ts1713

     

    There is another reset, though not likely to help

    but does come up: About NVRAM and PRAM:

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379

     

    Hopefully this helps somewhat.

    Good luck & happy computing!

     

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  • by Craigasaurus,

    Craigasaurus Craigasaurus Jun 3, 2014 2:00 PM in response to K Shaffer
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    Jun 3, 2014 2:00 PM in response to K Shaffer

    No, the new battery isnt it the mac because the new battery was the wrong battery. So i've basically taken the old battery out and put it back in again, screwed everything in, and clipped the thingy on too, put the back on, screwed that on, turned it on.... no battery detected.

  • by K Shaffer,Helpful

    K Shaffer K Shaffer Jun 3, 2014 2:17 PM in response to Craigasaurus
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    Jun 3, 2014 2:17 PM in response to Craigasaurus

    And so the Genius may be able to diagnose an issue beyond the battery...

     

    Did you try the reset of the SMC?

     

    Good luck in any event.

  • by Craigasaurus,

    Craigasaurus Craigasaurus Jun 3, 2014 2:43 PM in response to K Shaffer
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    Jun 3, 2014 2:43 PM in response to K Shaffer

    I know - its just the hassle of driving all the way there just to be told theres nothing they can do, or paying hundreds to fix it. Its also way past its warranty and doesnt have Apple Care.

     

    Tried the reset.... doesnt seem to of done anything. Its an X through the battery bar if you need a mental image...

     

     

    Also, do you think buying a new battery would help now?

  • by K Shaffer,

    K Shaffer K Shaffer Jun 3, 2014 5:37 PM in response to Craigasaurus
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    Jun 3, 2014 5:37 PM in response to Craigasaurus

    When you correctly identify the computer, that helps get correct parts

    and communicating the issues, possible causes, and resolving them.

    Even if it is just a battery, magsafe board, or power adapter, etc.

     

    A qualified trained tech may also be capable of a repair using a guide

    and with sufficient skills, perhaps do a good job. Is there an Apple

    User group in your city? A computer science lab with nerd geeky folks

    that like to fix things? Maybe you can find someone capable if you

    want to avoid a guarenteed repair with correct parts...

     

    Most official Apple Stores (as they all claim to have one) with a Genius bar

    in the US and Canada, can do a free diagnostic test and give you an idea

    and perhaps a best estimate guess on the cost to repair the computer, if

    something other than a battery may be wrong with it. Even out of warranty.

     

    In other locations, the details about a diagnostic check of a computer

    out of warranty (free in US/Canada -- even w/o applecare) elsewhere

    is a matter of regional policy. Since I don't have access, I can't say.

    But it would be reasonable to assume a technician would be paid in

    one way or another. An official Genius isn't a regular tech, there is a

    degree of customer service in some locations beyond an hourly rate.

     

    Did you use a repair guide to access the battery, or was it really an easy

    to tell improper part? The iFixit repair guides can help if the model is one

    that has to be partially opened, to access the battery, hard disk drive, RAM

    or other not impossible yet certainly more difficult to access in some models.

     

    The other part that may be defective, is the MagSafe Board. This is similiar

    to the DC-in Board of earlier portables in that there is a circuit inside the

    MacBook that sends power to the battery, and to the logic board, and also

    rations it between them both from the Magsafe adapter when charging &

    running, and also without a good battery in the computer, the processsor

    may also run at a lower speed, as well. So if the circuit in MagSafe Board

    has failed, the computer may still work OK but not charge a battery.

     

    •iFixit repair guides - MacBook series:

    http://www.ifixit.com/Device/MacBook

     

    It may be possible to do a repair yourself,

    or become aware of the trouble it can be.

     

    {I've repaired a few hundred Macs, & not

    for profit. I donated many at fair distance

    & am used to traveling hundreds of miles

    for things most people take for granted...}

     

    I've driven one new iMac under AppleCare

    over 3,000 miles, to try & get a repair of a

    covered defect, to not get it fixed correctly

    at all. I ended up contacting Apple directly

    and had them tell the authorized provider

    to do what I wanted, then it worked for a

    year. They kept shorting out logic boards

    and installing defective RAM. I was not

    allowed to open that model w/ Applecare.

     

    Tell me about it. I have several portable &

    desktop Macs & know about their systems.

    ?do you need a mental image?

     

    You'd have to correctly identify the computer in order to get a proper battery.

    You can call if you have the serial number and ask Apple or an authorized

    service provider the cost of the battery, & any installation fee. Also you can

    ask what the cost of to have a MagSafe Board installed. And a diagnostic

    if they do not offer you one as an offiical Apple Store in north America may.

     

    If you know or have seen the serial number, you could use an online lookup

    service to be sure you have the right information, thus correct parts, & so on.

    Some have a serial number in the battery compartment, or near the hinge.

     

    For your own info & to lookup Macs in general, here's an sample lookup site:

     

    •Identify your Mac - lookup your unit by serial number or model number

    https://www.powerbookmedic.com/identify-mac-serial.php

     

    The info in the Mac, is found in About this Mac via Apple Menu, and look

    into details that follow, that say what the device is and the OS X, etc in it.

    From 'About this Mac' and a click on 'More Info' will launch System Profiler

    and that has the MacBook Model Identifer among other details.

     

    With that information, you can look into http://everymac.com and narrow it

    down to the model numbers related to the identifier, or get the download

    database from http://MacTracker.ca that gives you plenty of specifications.

     

    See if you can find your model computer precise enough to get a correct

    battery part number and then see about a repair guide that shows the info

    on how to DIY MagSafe Board replacement. Then let them scare you at

    the Apple Store.

     

    A new battery may help.

    A correct diagnostic can help.

    It may need more.

     

    Good luck.

    Over and out...

     

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