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Q: My iMac is running terribly slow

I have OS X 10.9.2 and it's moving unbearably slow! What could the problem be?

iMac, OS X Mavericks (10.9.2)

Posted on Jun 3, 2014 7:47 PM

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Q: My iMac is running terribly slow

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  • by AnaMusic,

    AnaMusic AnaMusic Jun 3, 2014 7:51 PM in response to Fthfulgem
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    Jun 3, 2014 7:51 PM in response to Fthfulgem

    Start >  http://support.apple.com/kb/PH13895

     

    More > The Safe Mac >  http://www.thesafemac.com/mpg/

     

     

    Question:

     

    How much RAM do you have installed ?

     

    How much Disc Space is free ?

  • by John Galt,

    John Galt John Galt Jun 3, 2014 7:52 PM in response to Fthfulgem
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    Jun 3, 2014 7:52 PM in response to Fthfulgem

    Lots of things could be responsible. The first task you must do is to satisfy yourself that you have adequate, reliable backups, since what you describe may presage an impending disk failure. If you value the data on your Mac, you should have backups even if everything is working normally.

     

    To help determine the possible causes of this behaviour read the following. None of what follows is intended to fix anything, but it will provide the additional information required to advance troubleshooting.

     

    There are four separate parts to it; please read everything and reply with the results of each part.


    Part 1

     

    Boot OS X Recovery by holding and r (two fingers) while you start your Mac. At the Mac OS X Utilities screen, select Disk Utility. Select your startup volume (usually named "Macintosh HD") and click the Repair Disk button. Describe any errors it reports in red. If Disk Utility reports "The volume Macintosh HD appears to be OK" in green then you can be reasonably (though not completely) assured your hard disk is in good working order.

     

    When it finishes restart your Mac and test again for operation. If it's still not behaving as you expect it should, please post the results of EtreCheck in accordance with the next step.


    Part 2

     

    Apple Support Communities contributor etresoft wrote a very useful app to quickly gather certain system information that may help point to a cause of this problem. Read about it here. It contains a link to download EtreCheck. Don't download it from anywhere else (such as may be found by following the results of an Internet search).

     

    Copy and paste its output in a reply.

     

    Do not be concerned about anything that says "Problem" or “failed” or anything else that may appear in red.

     

    EtreCheck was designed to remove any personal information (such as your computer's name and serial numbers) but if you see anything that looks like an email address or any other personal information that should not be divulged to others, please delete or obscure that information when you post the reply.

     

    When you are finished with EtreCheck, quit the program. It occupies very little space, and you can keep it or drag it to the Trash as you wish.


    Part 3

     

    Please determine if the problems also occur in "Safe Mode":


    • Safe Mode or "Safe Boot" is a troubleshooting mode that bypasses all third party system extensions and loads only required system components. Read about it: Starting up in Safe Mode
    • You must disable FileVault before you can start your Mac in Safe Mode.
    • Starting your Mac in Safe Mode will take longer than usual, graphics will not render smoothly, audio is disabled on some Macs, and some programs (iTunes for example) may not work at all.
    • Merely starting your Mac in Safe Mode is not intended to resolve the problem, it's to observe its performance without certain additional components.
    • To end Safe Mode restart your Mac normally. Shutdown will take longer as well.

     


    Part 4

     

    System performance problems for reasons that cannot be isolated to any other cause justify an SMC reset. Be sure to read the procedure carefully and follow all the steps exactly as written, even if they seem inapplicable or trivial.


  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Jun 3, 2014 9:09 PM in response to Fthfulgem
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    Jun 3, 2014 9:09 PM in response to Fthfulgem

    Please describe the problem in as much relevant detail as possible. The better your description, the better the chance of a solution.

    For example, if the computer is slow, which specific actions are slow? Is it slow all the time, or only sometimes? When did it start to be slow? Did you change anything just before it started? Have you seen any alerts or error messages? Have you done anything to try to fix it? Most importantly, do you have a current backup of all data? If the answer to the last question is "no," back up now. Ask if you need guidance. Do nothing else until you have a backup.

  • by Fthfulgem,

    Fthfulgem Fthfulgem Jun 4, 2014 7:21 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Jun 4, 2014 7:21 PM in response to Linc Davis

    Sorry for the delayed response, trying to deal with this in my spare time.  Anyway.....not sure where to begin.  Computer was running fine.  I did notice it getting a little slow but I'm not on it all the time since I have an iPad and also get on computer at work.  I think I walked away from it before I realized how slow it really was. In the meantime, I was also getting this FaceTime message that popped up every time I logged in asking me to sign on the FaceTime.  I would just click cancel and it would disappear.  So, last Friday I wanted to download some pics and logged on. I noticed that the FaceTime message that is normally there was still there but there was like 10 of them stacked. I thought maybe it was just from idling or whatever.  Didn't think much about it.  Kept clicking cancel like I did before except this time they kept coming back.  So I got on Apple forum and followed a post that seemed to have the same issue. I had forgotten about the slow part by this point. So I followed the instructions (not sure what they were but could probably find in my history if necessary). Anyway, I did something with my keychain. So anyway, I restart my computer and I get this FileVault message when trying to login to administrator account.  Again, searched forum for an answer and followed more instructions. Had something to do with making another administrator account and something about "root" and was supposed to see some type of "sparse" something in my files.  There was nothing there.  So I called apple, I have a 2009 by the way and they had me erase something and then restore back to a specific date. Did it, it worked, then when I try to use it, I realized that I still have this SLLLLLOOOOOOOWWWW computer.  So slow it's not tolerable. When I first get on safari, the apple home screen comes up with no problem and I can google something pretty quickly but that next click takes forever loading, if it even loads at all. I end up walking away before I notice.  Hope this all makes sense.

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Jun 4, 2014 7:30 PM in response to Fthfulgem
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    Jun 4, 2014 7:30 PM in response to Fthfulgem

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    At the top of the results, there will be a line that begins with "Model Identifier." If you don't see that, but instead see a mass of gibberish, you didn't wait for the "Process completed" message to appear in the Terminal window. Please wait for it and try again.

    If any private information, such as your name or email address, appears in the results, anonymize it before posting. Usually that won't be necessary.

    12. When you post the results, you might see the message, "You have included content in your post that is not permitted." It means that the forum software has misidentified something in the post as a violation of the rules. If that happens, please post the test results on Pastebin, then post a link here to the page you created.

    Note: This is a public forum, and others may give you advice based on the results of the test. They speak only for themselves, and I don't necessarily agree with them.

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  • by Fthfulgem,

    Fthfulgem Fthfulgem Jun 5, 2014 8:27 PM in response to Fthfulgem
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    Jun 5, 2014 8:27 PM in response to Fthfulgem

    I sat down to work on computer and had to send a photo of my son into ACT.  I opened iphoto and clicked on "photos" and now it has a FileVault message saying that it's Backing up to my home folder.  Does that have anything to do with what I mentioned previously?  Should I cancel it and continue trying to fix my original problem?

  • by Fthfulgem,

    Fthfulgem Fthfulgem Jun 6, 2014 7:43 PM in response to AnaMusic
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    Jun 6, 2014 7:43 PM in response to AnaMusic

    Not being familiar with computer lingo, I'm going to say I have 2 GB of RAM. If that's the same thing as memory, my computer says 2 GB 1067 MHz DDR3

     

    However, when I look at my storage I see that I have 69.5 GB free out of 319.21 GB

  • by John Galt,

    John Galt John Galt Jun 6, 2014 8:23 PM in response to Fthfulgem
    Level 9 (50,389 points)
    Mac OS X
    Jun 6, 2014 8:23 PM in response to Fthfulgem

    Yes, 2 GB RAM is 2 GB memory. Although 2 GB is the minimum required for Mavericks, you are likely to find it insufficient. Consider 4 GB a more realistic minimum. More is always better.

     

    You can install more memory yourself. Apple even provides the instructions: iMac: How to remove or install memory

     

    Other than Apple there are only two vendors with which I have personal experience and can recommend: Crucial and OWC. People have reported problems with many other brands, yet Crucial and OWC's prices are as good as any you are likely to find.

     

    Go to Crucial and download the little app that examines your system and recommends RAM upgrade options.

     

    Their prices are good but don't have to buy memory from them - determine what you need and buy it from Crucial or OWC / MacSales.

     

  • by AnaMusic,

    AnaMusic AnaMusic Jun 6, 2014 8:42 PM in response to Fthfulgem
    Level 9 (57,248 points)
    Jun 6, 2014 8:42 PM in response to Fthfulgem

    Yes Memory = RAM

    Fthfulgem wrote:

     

    If that's the same thing as memory, my computer says 2 GB 1067 MHz DDR3

     

    That is Disc Space and you have enough Free.

    Fthfulgem wrote:

     

    ., when I look at my storage I see that I have 69.5 GB free out of 319.21 GB

     

    Follow the advice/Links supplied by John Galt and install as much RAM as you can.

     

    2GB is not sufficient for OS X 10.9