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Attaching files crashes Mac Mail and Thunderbird

Just upgraded from Mountain Lion to Mavericks 10.9.3 on a 2012 Mac Mini 4 core. When attempting to add an attachment to an email, both Mac Mail and Thunderbird start with the spinning beachball and never recover. Force Quit is the only option. Even after that, the Finder has strange screen artifacts left over from Mail (attach file dialog box) and Finder must be relaunched as well.


Dragging and dropping files works okay with Mac Mail. This option does not exist when using Thunderbird, so no workaround available for that App. Also, Mac Mail only gets stuck when attempting to attach files on the desktop. Files from other locations attach OK.


Already tried Repair Permissions, Repair Disk, Reinstalled Mavericks with no change. For now, I have gone back to Mountain Lion since this is a deal breaker, even though everything else seems to work ok (except for the occasional brief spinning beach ball).

Posted on Jun 4, 2014 11:15 AM

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Jun 4, 2014 2:09 PM in response to Flying Pelican

1. This procedure is a diagnostic test. It changes nothing, for better or worse, and therefore will not, in itself, solve the problem. But with the aid of the test results, the solution may take a few minutes, instead of hours or days.

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Jun 7, 2014 10:43 AM in response to Linc Davis

Hi Link,


Thanks for the detailed instructions. What are you actually looking for in the results?


I simply reverted to an earlier backup and went back to using Mountain Lion. It always seems to be an issue when migrating user data or upgrading OS's, and I often need to do fresh installs then manually migrate my data, which is quite a task with so much data (over 600 GB) and the hoops Apple makes you jump through to actually find the data to migrate everything manually.


I guess I will attempt that next when I have a whole day to set aside for that, unless someone replies with a simpler solution.

Feb 10, 2015 9:18 PM in response to Flying Pelican

OK, 8 months later, I decided to finally upgrade to Mavericks (again). I thought everything was working fine, but I was wrong. Still the same issue.


Attempting to attach files using either Thunderbird or Mac Mail results in spinning beach ball that never goes away and freezes the program. As soon as you select "attach" and navigate the dialog box to the desktop, the ball starts spinning.


This problem is only happening on my 2012 Mac Mini 4-core. I also upgraded my 2011 Macbook Pro at the same time using the same method from the same OS (Mountain Lion latest version) to the same OS (Mavericks latest version), and the Macbook Pro is working fine.


Any ideas?

Feb 15, 2015 11:10 AM in response to Flying Pelican

Thunderbird started doing it again, so I fixed it through process of elimination. The Pages application alias on the desktop seems to be the cause, so I had to remove it and just add it to the dock instead. When it is on the desktop and trying to attach something in Thunderbird, all of the application icons on the desktop would be blank in the Thunderbird attach file dialog box, and the wheel starts spinning, freezing the program. Without it there, the app icons load, and everything works as it should.

May 26, 2015 11:25 AM in response to Flying Pelican

Still having this issue. Deleting and re-adding desktop aliases only solves the issue for a few days, then it starts again. Attempting to upload files using Safari also freezes Safari when file browser window defaults to Desktop. Force Quit is the only option for any program (Safari, Thunderbird, Mail) that browses to the Desktop looking for files.


Any ideas on how to fix this?

Attaching files crashes Mac Mail and Thunderbird

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