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ibook G4 logic board fix

I have two 12" ibook G4 laptops. The logic board in one failed about six months ago. I didn't try to hard to fix it because it was my roommate's and mine still worked fine (he bought a new Powerbook). Last week when trying to start up my ibook the screen went dark and the fan made a loud whirring noise, the exact same thing the other ibook had done. After doing some digging today it appears this is an issue with the ibook G4s, most of which fall outside of Apple's logic board replacement program. The problem seems to be that the case of the G4 (and possibly the soldering on the GPU) is defective. The case allows the logic board to flex, which causes the (possibly defective) soldering on the GPU to seperate, disconnecting it from the board. I just talked with Apple support and was told that they were not willing to fix my ibook unless I paid, which seems a bit unfair to me considering the product is defective, but OK, life's unfair, no need to dwell on it.

My question is: it seems that the hack for fixing defective G3s is easier because the GPU is mounted on the underside of the logic board. Has anyone found a reliable fix for G4s?

Also, if this has happened to you, please let Apple know about it. Maybe they will extend the replacement program (again).

Thanks!

Corey

PS. Here are a few relevant links:

http://www.applefritter.com/node/10193

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=1369476

http://www.powerbook-fr.com/ibook/bricolage/repairg3_video_enarticle797.html

ibook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Posted on Sep 8, 2006 2:57 PM

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Dec 10, 2006 1:24 PM in response to c_w_arnold

Hi everyone.
I just have the same problem (or similar), black screen suddenly, just when I wake up the ibook. Sometimes with to sleep again and wake up the screen turn on, sometimes I had the fan noise and the only way to use the compute was turn off pressing the power key some seconds ...
But today I try to put the old battery (I have a new battery from the Battery Exchange Program) and now it looks to work fine. Can the new battery have relation with the problem?

Dec 14, 2006 8:40 AM in response to c_w_arnold

My iBook G4 from late 2004 has developed the same problem in the last two weeks, screen goes black for no apparent reason, other than possible heat build-up. This comes weeks after the mouse began going erratic on my other iBook G4. Very discouraging.

I do feel that Apple should address this production problem - it seems that a lot of others are having this issue. A 2 year old laptop should have this problem.

As a possible solution, the external display adapter still works, so if one has an old monitor (VGA) or extra TV around you can hook the iBook up to that.

iBook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Dec 14, 2006 11:19 PM in response to c_w_arnold

Well, you can add me as another victim of this issue from the sounds of it. It happened literally without warning and until I found this thread, I had no clue what had just happened.

And my iBook G4 1.2Ghz turns 2 in just a few days too... 😟

I'm going to see if I can get the thing working agian, with thanks to all the excellent help that is available on this thread.

Dec 15, 2006 1:35 AM in response to c_w_arnold

I had the entire logic board on my 1,2ghz 12" iBook G4 replaced back in may on Apples expense (thanks, Norwegian consumer legislation) following the symptoms you described.

However, now the error occurs again, and it is obviously a hardware issue: none of Apples 101-fixes helps (PRAM, PMU, etc) but leaning on the left palmrest with my elbow does, and voila the machine chimes and boots. When I remove the elbow, graphics fail pretty much immediately.

This level of build quality is a disgrace to Apple; I would have expected a brand new logic board to handle more than seven months of regular use.

Rather than covering the 800$ replace-and-repair or producing new G4 logic boards altogether, it seems reasonable that Apple offer MB replacements for all affected customers or offer 800$ discounts on new portables.

iBook G4 1,2ghz Mac OS X (10.4.8) 1,2gb ram, 80gb hdd

Dec 15, 2006 5:31 AM in response to c_w_arnold

Well, allowing the unit to cool down overnight has brought it back to it's original problematic state (hopefully, it was just something overheated breifly that caused the no-power scenario).

My symptoms seem very similar to the ones described here, the movitor actually flickers on briefly and goes off during the bootup process (I get the grey Apple logo and then, bam, it's black (but the apple logo on the cover stays lit).

No amount of presure I've been able to provide to the left palm-rest has brought the screen back yet.

Unfortunately, with almost 2 years of ownership, it doesn't seem likely that I'll get any kind of break from Apple.

Dec 15, 2006 7:02 AM in response to Rob Hammond

Rob: Maybe you're having problems with a different component?

After pressing the power button (without applying any pressure to the palmrest), my iBook doesn't give a startup (ROM) chime, the screen stays as black as ever, the fans get spinning and mostly accelerate into the characteristic mooing sound.

..and that's exactly the same symptoms my previous faulty logic board had. Meaning you can change these logic boards indefinitely to no avail, giving you only (800$ worth of) temporary relief until the next board fails.

Dec 20, 2006 10:47 PM in response to slicknick

The irony should not be easily lost on this one.

I was replying to this thread while typing on my working iBook G4. My roommate had assisted me because he is a bit more familiar and we had surmised that there may have been a short.

He was able to keep the laptop running without the bottom on for several hours and we figured that since the problems started shortly afterwards, something might be shorting out. We removed the EMI shield and the laptop seemed to work fine.

He did note a frayed wire near the hinge. It is black and runs near the hinge on the left side (looking from the 'front' of the iBook). It is a fairly thick wire, so several strands were cut from the orginal. We surmised that the frayed wiring was coming in contact with metal (The EMI Shield) and something was shorting out.

We also had to do a PRAM reset a few times, and an icorrect clock date would come up briefly, seeming to support our theory.

Well, as I said, I was responding to this thread on the iBook. I moved slightly and adjusted the iBook from the left front corner and wouldn't you know it... **** thing went dead again.

I popped off the bottom and proceeded to wrap the damaged wire up. Not easy. However, the unit remains dead. I get power, I hear the HD spin up a bit, but no chime. No whirring fan either.

My train trip is 6 AM Friday morning and I have no laptop for the trip right now (and it's been up and down like a yo-yo for me all week).

I just need it to last the next two weeks until I get back from my trip and it can die then if it needs to. But I don't know if I can get it running again, and keep it running, for the duration.

Jan 2, 2007 7:25 AM in response to Zteve

I have just called Apple in Cork, Ireland about this problem. Both technical support and customer relations will still not sympathise.

Arghhh! What will it take to get recognised? I beg everyone with this problem to log a call with Apple. Please get a case reference number too.

I'm about to draft a long letter of complaint with evidence of their lacklustre manufacturing quality.

Apple, please please recall this iBook G4. You've already made your millions from us punters!

Neil

Jan 2, 2007 8:46 AM in response to Nels81

Also got the same problem on my iBook 12". I fixed it using the guide ... but it's not as stable. Sometimes the screen goes black (still running) I just have to force a power down (keeping the power bouton pressed) and restart the ibook 😟.

As I have opened it I doubt Apple will ever fix mine. (early 2005 1.2GHz model)

Keep up the "fight"

Jan 2, 2007 10:33 PM in response to Nels81

Please, please keep us updated on your discussions with Apple. I had no luck after speaking with them multiple times, and was quoted $1000CAN from 2 different Apple service centers for the logic board. As a student, I can't afford the fix or a new computer. I've been using Apple since 91, and have never bought AppleCare because I'm used to their products lasting (ie. my 1989 IIci still runs beautifully). I wish they would extend the recall program.

iBook G4 933mhz Mac OS X (10.3.9)

ibook G4 logic board fix

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