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Q: If I photo is on an external?

Hi, wanted to try this post to see if I can fix my missing thumbnails only. picts are all on my external. Was orking great. till now ! I am doing a time machine for the first time, just in case....

 

Question: what is the exact steps on the second suggestion from (Madison P) of this post.. below... if I am using an external HD?

 

https://discussions.apple.com/message/11879897#11879897

 

Thanks in advance.

 

iPhoto '08, Mac OS X (10.7.5), WD My Passport & iphoto 9.2

Posted on Jun 11, 2014 11:59 PM

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  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Jun 12, 2014 7:14 AM in response to glo1man
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    Jun 12, 2014 7:14 AM in response to glo1man

    Do you have a default "managed" library (the iPhoto preference to "copy imported items to the iPhoto library is in its checked state) or have you unchecked that preference (strongly not recommended) giving you a referenced library?

     

    What format is the external drive?

     

    Back up your iPhoto library, Depress and hold the option (alt) and command keys and launch iPhoto - from the resulting first aid window rebuild thumbnails

     

    LN

  • by glo1man,

    glo1man glo1man Jun 12, 2014 9:18 AM in response to glo1man
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    Jun 12, 2014 9:18 AM in response to glo1man

    Tried opt/comm keys and went thru reuild thumb  checked alone to all cehcked. Its not working. At one point I get the giant ! but when I launch "iphoto Library Manager" I see all my pictures thumbnail and all. perfectly...

     

    I was going to try turning off FILE VAULT, so ran time machine to the same ext HD and that FAILED AS WELL.

     

    its a WD My passport air... I downloaded there little test tool kit ran that and it passed some but not the big test.

    calle CServ and he told me that it was going into sleep mode. made me uncheck everything even thou I had the slides on NEVER... going to need some help please.

     

    Is this the check?  But my library is on the External HD

    screenshot_822.jpg

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Jun 12, 2014 9:27 AM in response to glo1man
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    Jun 12, 2014 9:27 AM in response to glo1man
    WD My passport air..

     

    Are you accesing your library over the network?  An iPhoto library should be on a directly connected external drive. Network access is not supported. And the filesystem on a NAS is not compatible with iPhoto Libraries or Aperture libraries (http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3252).

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Jun 12, 2014 9:39 AM in response to glo1man
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    Jun 12, 2014 9:39 AM in response to glo1man

    And

     

    What format is the external drive?

     

    and is it on a wired connection to your Mac (USB or Thunderbolt or Firewire ?)

     

    Also note that the Time Machine backup and your iPhoto library can not share the same drive - it will not work and even if it did you would not have a backup since when the drive failes (which it will) you lose both the library and the backup at the same instant

     

    You do have a managed library - that is good and important - do not uncheck that option to copy imports

     

    Also I question your options to use RAW and to save edits as 16bit TIFF - they are valid options but make major increases in disk store requirements for little or no improvments for most people - only if you have unusual and very specific needs for these you may not whan them checked

     

    LN

  • by glo1man,

    glo1man glo1man Jun 12, 2014 11:29 AM in response to léonie
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    Jun 12, 2014 11:29 AM in response to léonie

    The format question, well I needed Genius Bar help a while back with iphoto and I dint have enough HD space so they told me to buy the WD air. They set it up and told me what to do when i got home in order to tranfer all my 49k pict into the new ext HD. Worked great for 4 months. still have 700+ gb available. Dont know if it was formatted correctly....

     

    Yes its USB connected.

    BTW I cant even view a snapNdrag pict thru preview now!

     

    Going to try and point my Time Machine to my own internal HD. is that good?

    or should I use another external HD.

    I have an extra 2 ... one with (58G available out of 60 via FWire) & (one with 225G avail out of 320G via usb)

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Jun 12, 2014 11:35 AM in response to glo1man
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    Jun 12, 2014 11:35 AM in response to glo1man

    Going to try and point my Time Machine to my own internal HD. is that good?

    or should I use another external HD.

    Then it would be impossible for TimeMachine to backup your system drive - no, that is not good. You need separate drives for Time Machine and all data you are backing up.

  • by glo1man,

    glo1man glo1man Jun 12, 2014 5:38 PM in response to glo1man
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    Jun 12, 2014 5:38 PM in response to glo1man

    Time M is running smooth got 3 hours to go . But if I am going to need another xHD for any reason then I rather skip time mach... I am ready for some help please..... screenshot_824.jpg

     

    To make matters worse, I dont even see Photos under Library, which where at 50K.

    Now all I see without many thumnail but still here.... is under Albums/ Recovered photos. Thats what the Genius Bar saved x months ago!

    BTW the endless beachball is back, maybe Time mach... its an oldie but goody imac 2.16 core 2 duo...

     

    Do we jump into Iphoto Library manager? turn FileVault off? trash Iphoto data files like the original post I placed?

     

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  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Jun 13, 2014 1:53 AM in response to glo1man
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    Jun 13, 2014 1:53 AM in response to glo1man

    glo1man,

     

    I don't know how to help you with this, since I do not know enough about the particular drive you are using. I do not own a WD My passport air.  The only thing I know about them, is, thtat there are known issues, when using them with Mavericks and using the WD software that comes with the drives (http://wd-mavericks-data-loss.com/#).

     

    If you cannot thell us, how the drive is formatted, and if a western digital drive manager is installed on that drive, take it back to the Genius who set it up for you.

     

    It is clear from your screenshot, that your iPhoto library is badly damaged. The thumbnails have lost the connection to their original image files, and most of the image versions have been migrated to the "recovered" album.  Your library needs rebuilding - a clear case for iPhoto Library Manager- but I am unsure how to do this on drive we cannot trust. I'll wait for LarryHN's recommendation in this case.

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Jun 13, 2014 5:57 AM in response to glo1man
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    Jun 13, 2014 5:57 AM in response to glo1man

    I ahve no idea beyond Léonie's - since you need a second external drive (one for TM and one for your iPHoto library and other data I suggest looking at Other World Computing - their drives are fully Mac compatible and they have great suypport - it may be as simple as the WD drive software but I to do not have a WD drive - I have either Apple or OWC

     

    LN

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Jun 13, 2014 12:07 PM in response to glo1man
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    Jun 13, 2014 12:07 PM in response to glo1man

    its a WD My passport air...

    Select the external HD icon on your Desktop and type Command + i.  That will open the Info window for the drive and tell you how it is formatted:

    ignoreownership.PNG

     

    Report back on how it is formtted.

     

    OT

  • by glo1man,

    glo1man glo1man Jun 13, 2014 6:26 PM in response to Old Toad
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    Jun 13, 2014 6:26 PM in response to Old Toad

    BTw : can it be because my Lock is on! on the bottom?

    I disconnected the plug off the wall by mistake last night and now time machine finished up correctly 2 hours later and my preview came back also the 50K photos in Library are back but still no thumbnails, yet I can see pictures when I click on it.

    screenshot_825.jpg

  • by glo1man,

    glo1man glo1man Jun 13, 2014 6:56 PM in response to glo1man
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    Jun 13, 2014 6:56 PM in response to glo1man

    This keeps coming up everytime after about 20 min of the WD hdrive being plugged in via usb... think I may need to get my pictures off this hard drive before this HD fails completely... screenshot_826.jpg

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Jun 13, 2014 7:00 PM in response to glo1man
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    Jun 13, 2014 7:00 PM in response to glo1man

    Is the drive going to sleep? Check the drive management software and tell it to not go to sleep

     

    LN

  • by glo1man,

    glo1man glo1man Jun 13, 2014 7:53 PM in response to LarryHN
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    Jun 13, 2014 7:53 PM in response to LarryHN

    YES! I told WD customer serv and they blew it off and told me to return it. Looking now... Do you know how to go about finding the drive mang software? Sorry...

     

    Disregard I found the PDF and am installing now!!!!

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