iTunes 7 - Selection of audiobooks

same issue here. the audiobooks downloaded from the itunes music store are correctly in the "Audiobooks" section of the library however the ones impored from the CDs have remained in the "Music" section of the library!

These are mp3 I ripped from CD.
MP3 files will not go under the Audiobook tab.
The file has to be an .m4b.

It has to be and imported/converted to AAC (.m4a) and the file type needs to be .m4b.
On a Mac, you have to change the file type (ala File Buddy).
On Windows, you can change the file extension from .m4a to .m4b.

If you have done this and it still is not showing up nder audiobooks;
1 Make a copy of this file outside of iTunes.
2 Delete the file from iTunes.
3 Re-add the .m4b copy you made, to iTunes.

If you do not understand go here -> http://aldoblog.com/audiobooks/

As stated, an audiobook is an AAC file type of .m4b.
The genre & EQ setting have nothing to do to with putting it in the Audiobook category.

If I may Interject,
Starting with 4 tracks and after updateing from iTunes 6 I still have 4 tracks in my iTunes 7 Library all files end ".m4a" yet two are in the "Music" playlist and two are in the "Audiobooks" playlist (all are music). I have tried all the sugested solutions and yet they doggidly remain in their seperate playlists.
Hmmmm.

Powerbook G4 17' 1Ghz Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Thanks, Chris, for your suggestions. I tried all of the instructions (converted the MP3 files to AAC, copied them to the finder, deleted originals within itunes, renamed them from .m4a to .m4b, reimported into iTunes) but they still appear only in the MUSIC library.

I visited the weblink you suggested too. It also says this should have worked, but alas, it didn't. Perhaps it's an issue related to iTunes 7.

I compared the two files (the correctly-identified true audiobook "Siddhartha" & the troublemaker ripped audiobook "America the Book"). Siddhartha is a protected AAC file (.m4b) encoded at 32kbps, sample rate 32kHz. America is a nonprotected AAC audio file (.m4b) encoded at 64kbps, sample rate 22.050kHz.

Any ideas why these techniques aren't working?

Boy, this is more complex than I thought. Doug Adams' web page has a fantastic explanation of what's going on here -- and how to fix it. I haven't tried it yet, but I'm optimistic.

http://www.dougscripts.com/itunes/itinfo/bookmarkablematrix.php

I beleive it may have something to do with the fact that the two correctly placed files are

" AAC audio file"

and two incorectly placed files are

"Protected AAC audio file"

Which is strange as they came from exactly the same source

Thanks, Matthias. The newest version of Doug Adams' "Make Bookmarkable" does indeed change the file extension to .m4b as you mentioned. However, the script does not make the audiobook appear in the correct LIBRARY (for me, anyway) as it is billed to do.

According to the FAQ on the AldoBlog, some files simply REFUSE to be correctly recognized as audiobooks despite all these machinations. I think I'm ready to give up. 🙂

http://aldoblog.com/audiobooks/itunes/frequently-asked-questions/#q14

Extensions are a Windows thingy. This is how a file type is identified and Windows uses this extension to tell what progrma to open the with.

On the Mac, the file extension is (mostly) irrelevant. Changing the extension does NOT change the file type.
You need to use a utility such as File Buddy.

"Extensions are a Windows thingy.
Sorry, you're dead wrong"
Actually, I was very correct. Extension ARE for Windows (or are you suggesting they are not for Windows?)
Try to delete the extension off a Windows file and it will even warn you about doing this.

I meant extensions are not (much) of a Mac thing.

Since iTunes is only for Windows or Mac and 99.9% of the users here are only here for Windows or Mac, that was my frame of reference.

the question is... how does itunes determine a AAC/AAC Protected/etc file is an audiobook or not?

how does itunes determine a AAC/AAC Protected/etc file is an audiobook or not?
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