Epson XP610 Prints Dark. ColorSync?

I recently setup a MacBook for my mom and sister. My mom was very disappointed to find that, when she prints photo enclosed with Email on the Epson XP610 she bought with it, it printed really dark. That almost to the point where she wanted to return the entire Mac system. Needless to say, that reaction took me by surprise, but obviously, getting accurate photo printing from Email is very important to her.


Anyway, I seem to vaguely recall that ColorSync has something to do with that? That is, more or less along the lines of setting up HSV/RGB/CMYK mapping profiles for each graphic device? The hope then being that I can edit the ColorSync profile for that printer, so that it dictates that any photos printed to it needs to be brightened up in the process of printing.


Am I on at least vaguely the right track there? If so, I'll read all about ColorSync. If not, anything else - other than of course importing the pictures into iPhoto (or whatever) so forth? The hope is that we can make all photos automatically print brighter.


Thanks for the thoughts!

Mac Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9.3), 8x2.8GHz, 2560x1600 Cinema HD

Posted on Jun 15, 2014 2:13 PM

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Jun 16, 2014 7:04 AM in response to mr88cet

You're on the right track with ColorSync. Basically, it's all about using the correct profiles.


1. Check and set the monitor profile. Open the System Preferences and click on Displays, then the Color tab. Unless you've created other monitor profiles yourself, there should be one profile name at the top of the list above a gray dividing line. That's the monitor profile pulled from the panel itself and is the factory default profile. It's a typical 6500K, 2.2 gamma profile. If it's not already highlighted (a gray bar across the whole thing), select it and close the System Preferences. Do not use other RGB profiles which may be in the list that have nothing to do with monitors, such as Adobe RGB, sRGB, ColorMatch RGB, etc.


2. All profile types (monitor, digital camera, scanner, printer) are very device specific. That's actually the whole idea. Each one represents a mathematical representation of the color response of the device the profile was created for. Printers go even further since you aren't just profiling the device, but also which paper you used. That's why there are so many profiles for the same printer. The inks will behave differently and produce different color on different papers.


These are the profiles installed by the XP-610's software:


EPSON XP810 710 610 510 Series Glossy.icc

EPSON XP810 710 610 510 Series Matte.icc

EPSON XP810 710 610 510 Series Photo Glossy.icc

EPSON XP810 710 610 510 Series Photo Quality Ink Jet.icc

EPSON XP810 710 610 510 Series Photo.icc

EPSON XP810 710 610 510 Series Premium Glossy.icc

EPSON XP810 710 610 510 Series Premium Luster.icc

EPSON XP810 710 610 510 Series Premium Semigloss.icc

EPSON XP810 710 610 510 Series Standard.icc

EPSON XP810 710 610 510 Series Ultra Glossy.icc

EPSON XP810 710 610 510 Series Velvet Fine Art.icc


There's actually a bunch of profiles for the XP-950 in the same package, but I'm going to assume the software detected what model printer you have and didn't install those.


As an example, note that there's Glossy, and Photo Glossy choices. These are two versions of gloss Epson papers you can buy, and the profiles are NOT interchangeable. No matter what paper you use, how the ink reacts to the paper is going to be different with each paper and will produce different color results. Don't in any way expect HP Gloss paper to work the same as Epson Gloss paper, even if you choose the same profiles for both papers. It won't happen. Also don't expect an HP Gloss paper profile to work for HP Gloss paper on an Epson printer. The HP profile was created on an HP printer for that paper. If you want to use HP Gloss paper on your Epson, you need to create a profile for it yourself. And that requires expensive equipment to do.


From professional printing companies on down to the dirt cheapest home printers, what paper you use affects color. Gloss will always produce the deepest, richest color. Satin/semi gloss papers a bit less so. Matte again less. Uncoated, dull. Plain paper, dull and blurrier (the ink wicks into the paper). It's just a fact of how ink works with each paper type. There's no fix or trick to make plain paper look like gloss or semi-gloss.


Also, always remember the monitor is a light emitting RGB source that will always, always display brighter and richer colors than even the best paper you can buy. Paper is reflective light, and will never look as luminant as your monitor (unless you turn the brightness on the monitor WAY down). The bigger reason is that most printers (yours included in this case) use Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Black inks, which do not even come close to covering the color range of RGB. So as a for instance, don't ever expect to see a very bright, saturated blue on the monitor to look like that on any paper.


So, now with a little color background knowledge, you can probably guess what to do to improve your color output.


3. Choose to print the email. When the dialogue for printing comes up, make sure to click the expansion arrow so you see more than the minimal choices. Under the paper size is a drop down menu. Click on the that and choose Color Matching.


User uploaded file


Make sure the ColorSync radio button is chosen and then choose Other Profiles. Scroll through the list to select the Epson profile that matches the Epson paper you're using. I can't tell you exactly what all of the print option screens you may encounter since I didn't actually install the drivers, but I think you get the basic idea.


Now try a print. Does that improve things?

Jun 16, 2014 7:40 AM in response to Kurt Lang

Thanks a bunch, Kurt, for the detailed response. Much of that I was well aware of, but several important pieces I was not, especially the names and locations of the ".icc" color-profile files, and the "Color Matching"/"ColorSync" selection in the print dialog.


Follow-up question: what is the nature of the ".icc" files, and more to the point, by what means can they be edited? For example, are the raw text files editable in just any ol' text editor, or...?

Jun 16, 2014 8:01 AM in response to mr88cet

You don't normally want to edit a profile. They are already optimized for the device they were created for. That is, they hold the information for the measured color gamut and range the device responded to at the time the profile was made.


Despite being (usually) fairly small files, they're also quite complex. They hold other information such as A-B and B-A profile exchange data. To edit one requires expensive software. Monaco Profiler and Gretag-MacBeth ProfileMaker are both older PowerPC titles which are two of the very few which do full editing. Being PPC software, they won't run under Lion or later.


X-Rite's new replacement for both of these older titles, i1Profiler, also does editing, but is currently nowhere near as usable in that regard. People who need true, full editing features are still waiting for X-Rite to add that function.


If you have the correct profiles, and are applying them correctly, you should get pretty good results.

Jun 16, 2014 10:02 AM in response to Kurt Lang

Apparently, they weren't very well optimized, or at least not the default files for "photo on plain paper" or "photo on matte photo paper" (she prefers matte photo paper offer gloss). We used Epson paper in both cases. Printed rather dark in both cases.


I'll at least see what happens selecting various options under Color Matching/ColorSync.

Jun 16, 2014 10:56 AM in response to mr88cet

Something else to consider is where you're trying to print the image from. Apple's Mail app may not be fully ColorSync aware (though it should be), and you not be able to get screen matching prints from it. So just to try a different approach, copy the attached image out of the email and open it in Preview. Then try printing it.

I'll at least see what happens selecting various options under Color Matching/ColorSync.

Forgot to mention in regards to that. ColorSync profiles must applied only once. So if you choose a paper profile as shown above, and the Epson driver shows yet more color control options, you must set it to No Color Management.


A very important option that not very many less expensive programs have is Black Point Compensation. What that does is balance the black point (gamma end) to the printer profile's black balance. This compensates for how the shadow end looks on the screen so it prints as closely to that on paper rather than filling in, or washing out, depending on the mismatch.


All of this does depend on how accurate the provided profiles are. They make one profile of each paper type on that model printer, but that doesn't mean your exact same model will print color the exact same way. Monitor profiles are no different. The canned profile is based on how someone profiled one monitor of that type, and that same profile is then used for every single monitor of that type, and again, may not be very accurate. It also assumes you haven't touched the controls on the monitor and changed the brightness, or any other settings.

Jun 16, 2014 11:21 AM in response to Old Toad

Ah! Completely forgot that, and meant to mention it earlier. All things being properly profiled, the embedded image profile shouldn't make any difference since what ColorSync tries to do is match the print to the monitor. So really, one of the most important profiles on your system is an accurate monitor profile.


But in relation to Old Toad's post, what the real problem may be is that the images have no embedded profile at all. Then ColorSync has no idea what to do with it color wise (nor would any app, or any other OS). It might assume sRGB, but not necessarily. And if it does, that may not even be the right one to use.

Jun 16, 2014 12:01 PM in response to mr88cet

Three experiments I want to try:


First, I have a similar printer (XP410) at home, so I want to try printing that same picture on that printer; see if it's dark on my similar printer.


Second, try printing it on our HP printer and compare the two.


Third, print it onto the XP410 through air print directly from the iPhone.


Amusingly, unlike my mom, I rarely do much printing these days, whereas my mom sometimes seems to use her computer as little more than a conduit between Email and a printer! :-)

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