Installing second internal hard drive

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Installing second internal hard drive

HI
I've just purchased a Seagate 320gb 7200.10 as a second internal drive for photos and iTunes. The drive did not come with hardware. Where can I find the plastic (I assume) guides that would attach to the drive so that it will slide into the open drive bay? Apple supplied the cables, but extra slides are not there.

Thanks to someone for your advice...

Bob

Power Mac G5 Dual processors, Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Posted on Sep 13, 2006 4:54 PM

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Answer 1

Jona

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Sep 13, 2006 5:03 PM in response to Robert Silber1

Bob, I just did this same upgrade. In my G5 Quad, the little plastic guides were included inside the G5: just to the left of the drive bay, there's a vertical plastic moulding with holes in it, and the guides are stored in these holes until required. Maybe you missed them, or perhaps they're not supplied in your model?

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Answer 2

Sep 13, 2006 5:19 PM in response to Jona

Wow! How did I miss that!!! Maybe I didn't know what I was looking for. Nevertheless, I couldn't believe Apple wouldn't make this provision. Thanks for your insight; the drive installed perfectly and is now partitioned and humming right along!

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Jona

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Sep 13, 2006 5:26 PM in response to Robert Silber1

Great news, glad you got under way!
It's so easy to miss these things sometimes. I'm guilty too--I was online bacause I just submitted the post below ("Caling all G5 Quad/NVIDIA users") because I couldn't find the auxiliary power point for a new video card upgrade. Of course it was there all the time but could I find it? Not before a kind poster put me straight!

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Answer 4

Sep 19, 2006 11:13 AM in response to Robert Silber1

Hi Bob,

Can you please help me... I have a Dual 2Gig G5 that I got in April 2005. I am installing a second hard drive in the lower slot.

I have bought a Seagate 400G SATA.

First of all I was also looking for the plastic rails.. are the hard to see?.. one guy said that they are in a storage slot to the left of the bay?

Second thing is the configuring of the second drive. The Apple installation instructions only seem to deal with the hardware.

The Seagate drive comes with a disk utility disk that says it's good for OS X, but the instructions say that you should use the OSX install disk.. so I'm confused.

Could you possibly tell me the step by step process that you followed to get your second hard drive working?

Many Thanks,

Steve

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Answer 5

Sep 19, 2006 12:09 PM in response to Steve McRea

Glad to help Steve

First, the rails you are looking for are not rails after all (that's what threw me off too!), but rather are 4 screws with large rounded heads. They are (or should be) screwed into a small piece of plastic mounted vertically just to the left of the drive bay opening. Screw them into the mounting holes on the side of your new drive. Then simply slide the drive into the bay; the screw heads slide into the plastic slides. Plug in the connectors, pivot the little holder (on the right side) down to keep the drive in place, and close up your case.

What I did was to simply boot the machine. During start up a message came that said the machine did not recognize the drive, and Disk Utility started automatically. I highlighted the new drive, assigned a new name (mine is Macintosh Drive B) and clicked the erase button. Disk Utility took care of the rest. Conversely, you may choose to partitian the drive instead. Click that tab, and create the partians as you choose. I did not use the Seagate utilities.

Good luck, and enjoy your Seagate drive. I have had wonderful success with them.

Blessings,
Bob

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Answer 6

Sep 20, 2006 2:02 PM in response to Robert Silber1

Hi Bob,
Just as an FYI.. I was having trouble with my new Seagate drive. My Mac wouldn't wake up after sleep. I went through this discussion forum and found that Seagate has an issue with OSX when the Seagate drive is the primary drive. It seems that if the drive firmware is older than 3.AAH then the drive takes 90 seconds to wake up after sleep. My drives are 3.AAD. So I am having to RMA them back to Seagate for exchange! 😟.. I'm going to post a new thread about drive installation.. I have a few questions!
Thanks Bob,
Steve

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Answer 7

Sep 22, 2006 11:23 AM in response to Steve McRea

1. I have a G5 Quad. It appears that the power cord and the data ribbon share the 40 pin connection on the internal hard drive. Is this true?

2. Also, if I install a second drive in the lower bay, I assume the power and data ribbon on the upper bay is pulled down to connect the new drive, and there is another set of power and data connectors are on the ribbon to connect to the upper bay. Correct?

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Answer 8

Sep 22, 2006 11:51 AM in response to Milton Laughland

I'm not sure how the Quad is set up. On the dual, there was a supplied set of cables in the lower bay just waiting for a second drive.

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Dec 10, 2006 11:07 AM in response to Robert Silber1

Robert
Thanks. Looks like your explanation is the one I a looking for except.

1. When I installed the second drive, it did not give me any message
2. When I consulted the documents, I moved the jumpers out. That did not work.
3. Replaced the jumpers on the master drive to confirm. Did not work.

I am confused about the jumpers.
The seagate 300GB just won't give me any hints on my Quad.

Thanks for your help

nxt

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Answer 10

Dec 11, 2006 5:14 PM in response to Color blind

nxt

I'm curious to know if you've resolved your issue...
I recently installed a seagate 250 GB in a DP 2.5 G5 and it refused to see it at all, removed jumpers, etc. The logic board died before I could try booting from Tiger or DW--someone's post on another forum said that worked for them. The replacement computer is here and I'll be working on this again tomorrow.

BTW, Milton, on the model I'm working on, the power is below the bay, but the data connector shares its ribbon with the top bay, and I had to unplug it second connector from top HD and replace with first so I could plug in the second. Does that make sense?

Will check back.
Galen

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Answer 11

Dec 11, 2006 5:28 PM in response to Galen Whalen

Galen
Yes I have resolved it
Here is what I did

Somehow, Apple Manual and Seagate website failed to mention that any additional drive should be connected to the mother board, seperate from the connector to the "master" drive.

1. Remove all jumpers from both master and slave drives

2. Connect your data cable to the mother board. This connector should be located right below the drive bay. Note, it is hard to get in there unless you have a small hand, or borrow a small hand from someone 🙂

3. Connect your power cable to the same cable that your master drive have "share it".

I think you should have no problems after this.
Goodluck and let me know what happens

nxt

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Answer 12

Dec 12, 2006 4:49 PM in response to Color blind

nxt

Thank you
it did work this time--it's possible that the cables were faulty last time, or maybe it was the failing logic board....this time the (new) G5 found the drive, I got the dialog box on startup, and initialized easily.

Upon restart, however, no startup chime. That was resolved by resetting the, um, SMU? by unplugging the power cord for 2 min., and resetting PRAM on startup.

All appears well,
thanks again,
Galen

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