ryane84

Q: can i change the genre for songs that i have in another playlist without me having to make duplicates of the song

can i change the genre for songs that i have in another playlist without me having to make duplicates of the song for example have a songs in my playlist rock genre but in my mom playlist she made it custom for workout

Posted on Jun 19, 2014 1:16 PM

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Q: can i change the genre for songs that i have in another playlist without me having to make duplicates of the song

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  • by ed2345,

    ed2345 ed2345 Jun 19, 2014 3:51 PM in response to ryane84
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    Jun 19, 2014 3:51 PM in response to ryane84

    Ryane84,

     

    There is only one Genre field per track.  So if you change Genre, it will be changed in all playlists that include that track.

     

    If it helps, you can put multiple words in the Genre field, e.g. "Rock, Workout."

  • by the fiend,

    the fiend the fiend Jun 20, 2014 2:00 AM in response to ryane84
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    Jun 20, 2014 2:00 AM in response to ryane84

    ryane84:

     

    Is there any reason why you keep creating new threads about the same subject?

     

    If you stick to one thread, perhaps you may find a solution. ed2345 is the fourth person to offer help, and yet you respond each time by creating a new thread instead of explaining (in the first thread) why the previous solution hasn't worked for you.

     

    But why exactly are you concerned about the genre anyway? A song can be in as many playlists as you wish, it has nothing to do with genre, unless you are creating Smart Playlists that use Genre as a rule of the list. If so, you have already been offered two solutions:

    1. create a second copy of the song and edit that second copy to the second Genre.
    2. use Grouping to cause the only copy of the song to be added to two separate Playlists.

     

    By the way, creating new threads and thereby ignoring those who have offered help in existing threads is impolite.

  • by the fiend,

    the fiend the fiend Jun 20, 2014 2:03 AM in response to ed2345
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    Jun 20, 2014 2:03 AM in response to ed2345

    ed,

     

    putting multiple words into the genre field actually creates a new genre, rather than adding the song to both genres. So in this case, you would end up with the following genres:

    1. Rock
    2. Workout
    3. Rock, Workout

    and the song would be only in the third genre

  • by ed2345,

    ed2345 ed2345 Jun 20, 2014 4:35 AM in response to the fiend
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    Jun 20, 2014 4:35 AM in response to the fiend

    the fiend wrote:

     

    ed,

     

    putting multiple words into the genre field actually creates a new genre, rather than adding the song to both genres. So in this case, you would end up with the following genres:

    1. Rock
    2. Workout
    3. Rock, Workout

    and the song would be only in the third genre

    Correct, but in iTunes if you search on "Rock" it will show up, and if you search on "Workout" it will show up.  Ditto if you use "genre contains" in a Smart Playlist.

     

    The problem (as you know) comes if you are sorting by Genre on an iDevice, in which case they are indeed in 3 different genres. It works better if you build the playlists in iTunes and then sync the device.

  • by the fiend,

    the fiend the fiend Jun 20, 2014 4:49 PM in response to ed2345
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    Jun 20, 2014 4:49 PM in response to ed2345

    Hi ed2345,

     

    In one of his/her other threads, ryane84 has asked how to create a Smart Playlist. Here; Re: Re: Re: how do i make the same song have two different genre I have given him/her an example to follow and asked that he/she lets us know whether it provides a suitable solution to this seemingly intractable problem.

     

    I thought you might be interested.

     

    Regards,
    Phil

  • by ed2345,

    ed2345 ed2345 Jun 20, 2014 5:55 PM in response to the fiend
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    Jun 20, 2014 5:55 PM in response to the fiend

    Phil,

    Nice!  Why not go ahead and turn that step-by-step guide into a User Tip.  Many users struggle with the basics of Smart Playlists.

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Jun 20, 2014 7:43 PM in response to ed2345
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    Jun 20, 2014 7:43 PM in response to ed2345

    Yep, it's nicely done.

     

    tt2

  • by the fiend,

    the fiend the fiend Jun 22, 2014 3:32 PM in response to ed2345
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    Jun 22, 2014 3:32 PM in response to ed2345

    Hi ed2345,

     

    I have tonight added a User Tip, having modified a minor error (that is - at least one!) and tidying up the prose of my original posts. I realise that perhaps I should have made reference to Smart Playlists is the subject title, but never mind, it's too late now!

     

    Thanks for the vote of confidence, and you too Steve.

     

    I do think that the User Tips are more difficult to find in the revised layout of the discussions. I'm wonder if perhaps inexperienced users of the forum may not be able to find them.

     

    Phil

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Jun 22, 2014 3:46 PM in response to the fiend
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    Jun 22, 2014 3:46 PM in response to the fiend

    User tips should pop-up in search results. And it is easy for other regulars to point them out. BTW you can go back and edit the title if you want.

     

    tt2

  • by the fiend,

    the fiend the fiend Jun 22, 2014 3:57 PM in response to turingtest2
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    Jun 22, 2014 3:57 PM in response to turingtest2

    I think I secretly knew that I could edit the title, but after several hours of revisions... I have done so now. Thanks again.

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Jun 22, 2014 4:02 PM in response to the fiend
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    Jun 22, 2014 4:02 PM in response to the fiend

    Great, I shall be on the lookout for occasions to refer people to Using Smart Playlists to make the same song have two different genres by the fiend.

     

    tt2

  • by ed2345,

    ed2345 ed2345 Jun 22, 2014 7:39 PM in response to the fiend
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    Jun 22, 2014 7:39 PM in response to the fiend

    Good work Phil!

     


    I do think that the User Tips are more difficult to find in the revised layout of the discussions. I'm wonder if perhaps inexperienced users of the forum may not be able to find them.

    As far as I can tell, everything is harder to find in the new layout.  But as tt2 notes, we can direct folks to your new User Tip by its URL.

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Jun 23, 2014 3:09 AM in response to ed2345
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    Jun 23, 2014 3:09 AM in response to ed2345

    I don't know if you've been lurking in the lounge ed, but you can add /content onto a user or community url, then click discussions to get a layout where new content in an area is labelled in bold. For your own user account click participated first. Makes it a little easier to keep track of your active threads. Bookmark the useful layouts to save time.

     

    tt2

  • by ed2345,

    ed2345 ed2345 Jun 24, 2014 7:41 PM in response to turingtest2
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    Jun 24, 2014 7:41 PM in response to turingtest2

    Steve - Thanks!  I will give it a try.

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