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Q: No access to Bootcamp after Mavericks upgrade

Hi Loner T,

 

Thank you for your help.  Here are the answers to your questions:

 

What was the sequence of upgrade? 10.9.3. followed by Parallels or the other way?

 

I upgraded to 10.9.3 first. 

 

Where in this sequence did the Bootcamp disappear?

 

After I upgraded, I tried to connect to the Bootcamp partition via Parallels 5.  Wasn't able to connect at all.  I then upgraded to Parallels 9, was able to connect, but went right to the blue screen. 

 

What OSX version did you upgrade from to 10.9.3?

 

I believe it was 10.6.

 

It is good to see that Bootcamp NTFS is intact and mountable?

 

Yes, seems to be mountable as I can switch between mount and unmount for Bootcamp.

 

Can you see files in Bootcamp in Finder? If you have XP installed then it is supported, but new installation of XP is not supported.

 

Yes, I can see files in the Bootcamp Finder. 

 

Can you post the output of the following two commands?

 

sudo gpt -r -v show /dev/disk0


gpt show: /dev/disk0: mediasize=500107862016; sectorsize=512; blocks=976773168

gpt show: /dev/disk0: Suspicious MBR at sector 0

      start       size  index  contents

          0          1         MBR

          1          1         Pri GPT header

          2         32         Pri GPT table

         34          6        

         40     409600      1  GPT part - C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B

     409640  814524592      2  GPT part - 48465300-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

  814934232    1269544      3  GPT part - 426F6F74-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

  816203776  160569344      4  GPT part - EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7

  976773120         15        

  976773135         32         Sec GPT table

  976773167          1         Sec GPT header

Users-iMac:~ user$ sudo gpt -r -v show /dev/disk0

gpt show: /dev/disk0: mediasize=500107862016; sectorsize=512; blocks=976773168

gpt show: /dev/disk0: Suspicious MBR at sector 0

      start       size  index  contents

          0          1         MBR

          1          1         Pri GPT header

          2         32         Pri GPT table

         34          6        

         40     409600      1  GPT part - C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B

     409640  814524592      2  GPT part - 48465300-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

  814934232    1269544      3  GPT part - 426F6F74-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

  816203776  160569344      4  GPT part - EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7

  976773120         15        

  976773135         32         Sec GPT table

  976773167          1         Sec GPT header

 

sudo fdisk /dev/disk0


Disk: /dev/disk0 geometry: 60801/255/63 [976773168 sectors]

Signature: 0xAA55

         Starting       Ending

#: id  cyl  hd sec -  cyl  hd sec [     start -       size]

------------------------------------------------------------------------

1: EE 1023 254  63 - 1023 254  63 [         1 -     409639] <Unknown ID>

2: AF 1023 254  63 - 1023 254  63 [    409640 -  814524592] HFS+       

3: AB 1023 254  63 - 1023 254  63 [ 814934232 -    1269544] Darwin Boot

*4: 07 1023 254  63 - 1023 254  63 [ 816203776 -  160569344] HPFS/QNX/AUX


Posted on Jul 1, 2014 12:41 PM

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Q: No access to Bootcamp after Mavericks upgrade

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  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Jul 1, 2014 1:32 PM in response to Matt2400
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    Jul 1, 2014 1:32 PM in response to Matt2400

    1. Does Bootcamp show up in System Preferences -> Startup Disk as an option?

    2. If you power cycle and use ALT/Option key during power-up, does Windows show up as a selectable option?

    3. Using the command sudo dd if=/dev/disk0 bs=440 count=1 2>/dev/null | hexdump -C  should show you if there are boot loader issues.

     

    Typically, OSX Disk Utility moves partitions around (for example creating a Recovery partition) which can cause boot issues. 10.6 did not have a Recovery partition.

     

    You may need to use XP Installation media for Windows recovery later, if it turns out that you have boot loader issues.

  • by Matt2400,

    Matt2400 Matt2400 Jul 1, 2014 2:03 PM in response to Loner T
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    Jul 1, 2014 2:03 PM in response to Loner T

    1. Does Bootcamp show up in System Preferences -> Startup Disk as an option?

     

    Yes it does, says BOOTCAMP Windows. 

     

    2. If you power cycle and use ALT/Option key during power-up, does Windows show up as a selectable option?

     

    Yes, it does, but then it just does that blue screen cycle.

     

    3. Using the command sudo dd if=/dev/disk0 bs=440 count=1 2>/dev/null | hexdump -C  should show you if there are boot loader issues.


    00000000  33 c0 8e d0 bc 00 7c fb  50 07 50 1f fc be 1b 7c  |3.....|.P.P....||

    00000010  bf 1b 06 50 57 b9 e5 01  f3 a4 cb bd be 07 b1 04  |...PW...........|

    00000020  38 6e 00 7c 09 75 13 83  c5 10 e2 f4 cd 18 8b f5  |8n.|.u..........|

    00000030  83 c6 10 49 74 19 38 2c  74 f6 a0 b5 07 b4 07 8b  |...It.8,t.......|

    00000040  f0 ac 3c 00 74 fc bb 07  00 b4 0e cd 10 eb f2 88  |..<.t...........|

    00000050  4e 10 e8 46 00 73 2a fe  46 10 80 7e 04 0b 74 0b  |N..F.s*.F..~..t.|

    00000060  80 7e 04 0c 74 05 a0 b6  07 75 d2 80 46 02 06 83  |.~..t....u..F...|

    00000070  46 08 06 83 56 0a 00 e8  21 00 73 05 a0 b6 07 eb  |F...V...!.s.....|

    00000080  bc 81 3e fe 7d 55 aa 74  0b 80 7e 10 00 74 c8 a0  |..>.}U.t..~..t..|

    00000090  b7 07 eb a9 8b fc 1e 57  8b f5 cb bf 05 00 8a 56  |.......W.......V|

    000000a0  00 b4 08 cd 13 72 23 8a  c1 24 3f 98 8a de 8a fc  |.....r#..$?.....|

    000000b0  43 f7 e3 8b d1 86 d6 b1  06 d2 ee 42 f7 e2 39 56  |C..........B..9V|

    000000c0  0a 77 23 72 05 39 46 08  73 1c b8 01 02 bb 00 7c  |.w#r.9F.s......||

    000000d0  8b 4e 02 8b 56 00 cd 13  73 51 4f 74 4e 32 e4 8a  |.N..V...sQOtN2..|

    000000e0  56 00 cd 13 eb e4 8a 56  00 60 bb aa 55 b4 41 cd  |V......V.`..U.A.|

    000000f0  13 72 36 81 fb 55 aa 75  30 f6 c1 01 74 2b 61 60  |.r6..U.u0...t+a`|

    00000100  6a 00 6a 00 ff 76 0a ff  76 08 6a 00 68 00 7c 6a  |j.j..v..v.j.h.|j|

    00000110  01 6a 10 b4 42 8b f4 cd  13 61 61 73 0e 4f 74 0b  |.j..B....aas.Ot.|

    00000120  32 e4 8a 56 00 cd 13 eb  d6 61 f9 c3 49 6e 76 61  |2..V.....a..Inva|

    00000130  6c 69 64 20 70 61 72 74  69 74 69 6f 6e 20 74 61  |lid partition ta|

    00000140  62 6c 65 00 45 72 72 6f  72 20 6c 6f 61 64 69 6e  |ble.Error loadin|

    00000150  67 20 6f 70 65 72 61 74  69 6e 67 20 73 79 73 74  |g operating syst|

    00000160  65 6d 00 4d 69 73 73 69  6e 67 20 6f 70 65 72 61  |em.Missing opera|

    00000170  74 69 6e 67 20 73 79 73  74 65 6d 00 00 00 00 00  |ting system.....|

    00000180  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................|

    *

    000001b0  00 00 00 00 00 2c 44 63                           |.....,Dc|

    000001b8

     

     

    What do you advise I do?  Not sure how to use XP installation media.  Do you mean back-up Bootcamp somehow, reinstall Windows into a new partition, restore back-up, erase old Windows partition?  If so, I'm not certain how to do that.  Thank you.

  • by Christopher Murphy,

    Christopher Murphy Christopher Murphy Jul 1, 2014 2:12 PM in response to Matt2400
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    Jul 1, 2014 2:12 PM in response to Matt2400

    The partition tables are fine, and the MBR 1st stage bootloader's first two lines looks fine, I don't read assembly so I can't say the whole thing is definitely correct. But in any case the fact you get to a blue screen tells me you're getting a bootloader failure at some point after the first stage but before the actual kernel is running. If the kernel got up and running, and it found some problems with the file system, there'd be a minimal rescue environment available to repair the file system. You're going to need a Windows XP install CD/DVD and boot from that and try running Windows Startup Repair. That's completely automatic and doesn't always work, but worth a shot. Next there's bootrec.exe, so you might need to dig around to find a bootrec.exe XP guide, I'm not sure if it's any different between XP and 7. It has options to replace the code in the MBR, and the bootloader, and the BCD. So there's actually a lot of stuff to try before giving up. The fact that the partitions are intact and you can read the Bootcamp volume from OS X makes me think recovery is definitely possible, even if tedious.

  • by Matt2400,

    Matt2400 Matt2400 Jul 1, 2014 2:19 PM in response to Christopher Murphy
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    Jul 1, 2014 2:19 PM in response to Christopher Murphy

    Thank you Christopher.  I'm not very tech savvy, but I can easily follow instructions.  Are there any instructions to your 2 options?

     

    1.  You're going to need a Windows XP install CD/DVD and boot from that and try running Windows Startup Repair.

     

    2.  Next there's bootrec.exe, so you might need to dig around to find a bootrec.exe XP guide, I'm not sure if it's any different between XP and 7. It has options to replace the code in the MBR, and the bootloader, and the BCD.

     

    Good to hear that there's hope!

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Jul 1, 2014 2:35 PM in response to Matt2400
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    Jul 1, 2014 2:35 PM in response to Matt2400

    You can take a look at this article for XP recovery.

     

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307654

  • by Matt2400,

    Matt2400 Matt2400 Jul 2, 2014 12:59 AM in response to Loner T
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    Jul 2, 2014 12:59 AM in response to Loner T

    Ok guys, I went ahead and backed up the data (made a new image of my bootcamp drive onto an external hard drive).  I then deleted the partition and reinstalled Windows XP.  I can't seem to restore the image though.  I get this error message:

     

    Screen Shot 2014-07-02 at 12.54.08 AM.png

     

    The size of the old bootcamp partition was 80GB, but I only went with 50GB as the data is only 13GB.

     

    Screen Shot 2014-07-02 at 12.55.38 AM.png

    Screen Shot 2014-07-02 at 12.56.05 AM.png

     

    For some reason my first partition (Macintosh HD) is not blue throughout the whole box.  Even though it says it has 449GB.  Not sure if that matters at all.

     

    I can boot up on Windows using the ALT key when rebooting.  However, I can't get Parallels 9 to work either. 

     

    Is there anyway to get BOOTCAMP.dmg to take on the new partition I created? 

     

    Thank you!

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Jul 2, 2014 6:14 AM in response to Matt2400
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    Jul 2, 2014 6:14 AM in response to Matt2400

    This is now a larger issue. The OSX NTFS driver is a read-only driver (by default). You are trying to write to a NTFS during the restore, which can cause problems. You have partitions that normally do not show up in DU (like EFI, Recovery, etc.).

     

    If the backup was made using DU's image, and your partition sizes are different, that is another likely issue.

     

    A Windows XP Recovery had a better chance of success, as Christopher had pointed out.

     

    It is likely that something  like WinClone can restore bootcamp.dmg, but it is not a free product.

     

    http://www.twocanoes.com/winclone

  • by kenfromCa,

    kenfromCa kenfromCa Jul 2, 2014 7:31 AM in response to Christopher Murphy
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    Jul 2, 2014 7:31 AM in response to Christopher Murphy

    Boot Camp Partition Missing after shrinking Mac Partition

     

    Hello Chris, could you also look at the above issue.

    thanks ken

  • by Christopher Murphy,

    Christopher Murphy Christopher Murphy Jul 2, 2014 10:07 AM in response to Matt2400
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    Jul 2, 2014 10:07 AM in response to Matt2400

    So you used Disk Utility > Restore to make an image of the Windows volume. Where you lose me is when you say you reinstalled XP, but then fail at restoring. "Reinstalling XP" means using the Windows installer to install it from scratch. "Restore" means restoring it from an image. I don't see how you can reinstall and restore. The restore would obliterate the reinstall and vice versa.

     

    You can't use Disk Utility to image an NTFS volume, and restore it to a partition of a different size. That requires Disk Utility understanding how to resize NTFS, which it doesn't. Disk Utility's image of Windows is a sector copy, so it's a fixed size and can only be restored to a fixed size partition. If you want to do this differently, you need a different utility like what Loner T suggested.

     

    Anyway, backing up was a good idea. Nuking the partition and starting over was not suggested by anyone and now you're in a totally different and more difficult situation because you haven't actually done anything to fix the problem. Merely backing up and restoring isn't going to magically fix that problem.

  • by Matt2400,

    Matt2400 Matt2400 Jul 2, 2014 10:19 AM in response to Christopher Murphy
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    Jul 2, 2014 10:19 AM in response to Christopher Murphy

    The answers to my questions haven't been clear.  I went ahead and followed Loner T's link:

     

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/30765

     

    To be clear, I deleted the old partition and reinstalled Windows XP.  I didn't restore Windows XP.  I'm trying to restore my disk image (BOOTCAMP.dmg).  I think it won't allow it because the disk size is different now (50GB vs. 80GB) and I can't resize the Windows partition for some reason. 

     

    Do you guys have a step by step process of the following actions:

     

    1.  Resize a partition that can't seem to resize.  Using this product:  http://www.twocanoes.com/winclone

     

    2.  Restoring the disk image (the one I backed up). 

  • by Christopher Murphy,

    Christopher Murphy Christopher Murphy Jul 2, 2014 10:39 AM in response to Matt2400
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    Jul 2, 2014 10:39 AM in response to Matt2400

    This is what Apple says you have to do to resize a Windows partition. i.e. start over. They don't have any other way to do what you're asking.

     

    Neither Loner T nor I asked you to delete the old partition, yet you did it anyway. So I have zero trust that you'll actually follow directions without skipping ahead or doing something else, making things worse, and then asking for even more help. I think it's inconsiderate to ask for step by step help after having made the situation worse by doing something that wasn't recommended.

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Jul 2, 2014 10:46 AM in response to Matt2400
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    Jul 2, 2014 10:46 AM in response to Matt2400

    Take a look at this link (and on their website you can find additional articles to variations on similar themes).

     

    http://www.twocanoes.com/winclone/support/resize-an-existing-boot-camp-partition -with-winclone-4

  • by Matt2400,

    Matt2400 Matt2400 Jul 2, 2014 1:33 PM in response to Loner T
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    Jul 2, 2014 1:33 PM in response to Loner T

    Hey Loner T,

     

    This is where that lead me to:

     

    Winclone doesn't have BOOTCAMP or WINDOWS as an option under sources.

     

    Screen Shot 2014-07-02 at 1.30.42 PM.png

     

    Seems like I've repartitioned to the original 80GB from 50GB though (be deleting old partition and adding new one).

     

    Screen Shot 2014-07-02 at 1.31.05 PM.png

     

    Thoughts?

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Jul 3, 2014 4:59 AM in response to Matt2400
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    Jul 3, 2014 4:59 AM in response to Matt2400

    Take a look at this thread...

     

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=997823

     

    Re: Booting Bootcamp partion from restored Bootcamp partition

     

    The partition numbering may not be correct anymore because it uses Partition 3, but now it is 4, because of the additional Recovery HD.

     

    I have not tested this method. Please make sure you have adequate backups of MAC OS X and Windows.

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