Q: IOS 7.1.2 is buggy, don't update

"The iOS is designed to be a stable and secure system. "

Aren't they all.  I've found it to be buggy, even out of the box on some of the past phones I've bought from Apple. 

SusanInSFL wrote:

 

"The iOS is designed to be a stable and secure system. "

 

Aren't they all.  I've found it to be buggy, even out of the box on some of the past phones I've bought from Apple.

No, the Android OS, not nearly as much.

RJV Bertin wrote:

 

You'd have a point if I referred directly to Darwin's Evolution Theory, or if I'd been demanding or speculating about anything. As it stands your post is as unhelpful as many others in this thread.

And, if you're not referring to the Theory of Evolution, "de-evolution" certainly has meaning. But, anyone can make up quotes and claim they mean anything they want. Again, not relevant to any tech support question.

Ok, so I came to this discussion to see what the problems might be if I updated my OS to the 7.1.2 since every update I've done with Apple since my original iPhone in 2007 was a massive cluster.  I don't have 10 hours to mess with a phone.  I run a business and my time is limited.  What I found is a thread full of insults and attacks when someone asks valid questions as to 'why' when it comes to an Apple product.  As a person who ALWAYS asks 'why' and 'why not' instead of accepting the status quo, I find this to be insulting to human intelligence.  I once ran a political board and I can tell you, the personal attacks here rival those on a political board.  (And yes, a few were aimed at me.)

So, once again, what are the exact problems that I can expect in updating my iPhone 4 to this system, from the existing, working 6.1.3?

If you want to continue to believe that (and that de-evolution and devolution are the same thing), be my guest. Actually, no, not mine, please.

And if it'll make you sleep better: the name of the person whose words I was quoting was already on the post (i.e. mine). I didn't think it particularly relevant to add that I was quoting a former teacher, Aristid Lindenmayer, from memory.

Do you have an iPhone 4 as opposed to a 4s? That's the bare minimum for running iOS 7, and from what I've gathered it probably should have been kept at iOS 6.

Googling for "iOS 7.1.2 problems" will give you a number of issues that are being experienced by (I cite) a significant minority of users. They include WiFi availability (as in the service is no longer available until you restart the phone keeping if off for around 15 minutes) as well as VPN connectivity issues. Battery life is also likely to be affected adversely.

If you're satisfied with 6.1.3 stick to it as upgrading the OS now may want to make you upgrade the rest of the phone too.

THANK YOU!  A civil answer!  Amazing. 

It is always a major problem when updating the system.  At one point, I was forced to update the system just so I could sync with our Lincoln system, and what a major cluster THAT was.   :::sigh:::

Anyway, I appreciate your kind help.  

SusanInSFL wrote:

 

So, once again, what are the exact problems that I can expect in updating my iPhone 4 to this system, from the existing, working 6.1.3?

I upgraded 2 iPhones and 4 iPads. All worked perfectly before and after upgrading.

Based on my experiences, no problems at all.

SusanInSFL wrote:

 

 

 

So, once again, what are the exact problems that I can expect in updating my iPhone 4 to this system, from the existing, working 6.1.3?

So far, between family and friends and a few employees, roughly 30 iPhones, both 4S and 5S, and roughly a couple of dozen iPads, not a single problem at all. Asking these questions in Troubleshooting Forums is akin to walking into a hospital and asking "Is it possible to get sick? Oh look EVERYBODY is, so I must be going to get sick too."

Pete

petermac87 wrote:

 

SusanInSFL wrote:

 

 

 

So, once again, what are the exact problems that I can expect in updating my iPhone 4 to this system, from the existing, working 6.1.3?

So far, between family and friends and a few employees, roughly 30 iPhones, both 4S and 5S, and roughly a couple of dozen iPads, not a single problem at all. Asking these questions in Troubleshooting Forums is akin to walking into a hospital and asking "Is it possible to get sick? Oh look EVERYBODY is, so I must be going to get sick too."

 

Pete

AMEN!!! couldn't agree more Peter!

In response to petermac87:  "Asking these questions in Troubleshooting Forums is akin to walking into a hospital and asking "Is it possible to get sick? Oh look EVERYBODY is, so I must be going to get sick too."

Knowing that Apple updates often shut down a device and don't work with all devices, it is wise to ask questions before one embarks on a debacle that could very well render a device useless. 

It appears I have come to the wrong place because it seems that many of the  people perusing a section concerning problems with upgrading iPhone 4 to IOS 7.1.2 have no problems and really are unable to add to the conversation in a meaningful manner. To continue with your allegory, petermac87, coming to this troubleshooting section is akin to walking into a doctors office with a problem, and everyone saying "Well, I don't understand why you're sick because I'M not."   (Well people in a doctors office?  Well, that's what this section is.)

Just never mind, everyone.  The entire experience with this Apple board is discouraging. 

I don't normally have problems when I upgrade, but I always back up before doing it just in case. This last one, however (7.1.2) caused my iPad to go into recovery mode. It was no big deal to just load my backup file, though.

SusanInSFL wrote:

 

In response to petermac87:  "Asking these questions in Troubleshooting Forums is akin to walking into a hospital and asking "Is it possible to get sick? Oh look EVERYBODY is, so I must be going to get sick too."

 

Knowing that Apple updates often shut down a device and don't work with all devices, it is wise to ask questions before one embarks on a debacle that could very well render a device useless.

 

It appears I have come to the wrong place because it seems that many of the  people perusing a section concerning problems with upgrading iPhone 4 to IOS 7.1.2 have no problems and really are unable to add to the conversation in a meaningful manner. To continue with your allegory, petermac87, coming to this troubleshooting section is akin to walking into a doctors office with a problem, and everyone saying "Well, I don't understand why you're sick because I'M not."   (Well people in a doctors office?  Well, that's what this section is.)

That was working until the bit about the doctors office where no-one is sick?

Why on earth would they be there? Is the coffee good or something?

Csound1 wrote:

 

betaneptune wrote:

 

You're missing the point. Why is the OS designed in such a way that downgrading it is a bad idea in the first place?

Because it is not relevant. IOS is the way it is, if that is not to your liking there are only 2 choices, adapt, or change OS.

So you don't know, either?

You're dodging the question. Fine.

I just may well switch over to Android. Just have to figure out what it would take to get my music, video, and books onto it.

And what's the point of making a pre-upgrade backup, anyway? If you can't downgrade, how is the backup going to be restored? I think I actually had this problem once. It was long ago.

enosmac wrote:

 

I originally started this thread.

 

First off, I'm a computer science major, so I'm well versed in coding and testing.

 

Apple obvioulsy didn't test this release enough as far as the installation/update procedure.  As from this thread you can see people have had issues updating.

 

I love Apple, just stating the obvious that they didn't test the installation of this release well enough.

 

If you didn't have an issue, then good for you, as you are not in the minority.  However there is no need to troll, as it is apparent many people have had issues installing this update.  If you didn't have any issues updating, good for you, but there is no need to put down those that obviously did.

 

That said, once the update is installed, it is very stable.

Well, Safari keeps crashing on me. So at least _that's_ not stable.

I'm beginning to think that Apple doesn't even have a QA dept. One problem I had was TV shows being out of order. Now tell me how could that even _make_ it to QA, much less pass it. Had to wait for an upgrade. Lovely.