Q: IOS 7.1.2 is buggy, don't update

And it's common sense that adding a password to protect data would require removing said password to un-protect that data.  Otherwise, what use would there be of a password?

And the discussion thread you linked is over three years old.  Number of views isn't relevant, because that's not individual people viewing, it's each and every view ever done, including each page you view each time.  If a single person goes through the entire thread of 20 pages, that's 20 views from one person.  Each time you refresh a page or revisit the thread, that's another view.

Why would you think you could de-activate a password without knowing the password?  Would that not defeat the entire purpose of a password?

But it is not common sense that "that password" would not only be needed to "un-protect" that specific backup data, but would be needed for any backup or to change the encryption feature until the end of time, and prevent you from any further backups, absent a full restore and removal of all data, until the end of time, or prevent any future useful backup, absent a full restore, on a new device initially transfered/restored from that backup until the end of time.  A simple warning on the initial backup set up password page that it not only applies to the specific backup but all following backups and restores on the device, other devices if transfered from that backup, until the end of time, would avoid issues for thousands

All this to not "un-protect" data you already have full access to on the phone itself, from a computer you have full access and control of, and on an account of which one has full control and access and could charge thousands of dollars.

As you noticed the linked thread was "over three years old. " then surely you noticed posts have been regularly added over the three years through this very month, hence days ago not 3 years ago.  And unless you are suggesting that many find more entertainment by clicking over and over on that thread rather than enjoying the rest of the Internet, four hundred thousand plus hits suggests a not insignificant issue, as would a cursory Google search.

Hmmm, you can "reset" the Itunes password and charge thousands of dollars, and far fetched rumors of the ability to reset other passwords in such low risk activity as on-line banking, credit cards, shopping accounts etc also abound.

But thank you for your useless lets rub it in two-cents in response to an unrelated compliment to Apple, teach me to say something nice about Apple

Lobomojo wrote:

 

A simple warning on the initial backup set up password page that it not only applies to the specific backup but all following backups and restores on the device, other devices if transfered from that backup, until the end of time, would avoid issues for thousands

Submit your feedback directly to Apple using the appropriate link on the Feedback page:

http://www.apple.com/feedback

You don't need the password to create an iTunes backup.  And you can delete an old encrypted iTunes backup at any time, and then create a fresh non-encrypted iTunes backup of the same device.

And yes, you need the password to unprotect the data for the purposes of restoring it to an iOS device.  I don't care that you have it on your device.  That's irrelevant.  What IS relevant is that the purpose of the iTunes encryption is to protect the data that you put on the computer, so that if someone gains access to your computer without your permission, they cannot restore your recent iPhone backup to their own device.

But you're right.  There are a lot of people that are forgetful and don't take proper precautions, or bother to take the time to RTDM before jumping in.  Yes, many people make faulty assumptions, then want to blame someone else when those assumptions are incorrect.

If you want to know how something works... read the instructions.

Want Apple to add a feature to iTunes?  Use the feedback channel.

Meg I have sent feedback on the discussed issue more than once

Lobomojo wrote:

 

Meg I have sent feedback on the discussed issue more than once

Then, as no one here can make the changes you want and you've submitted feedback, I guess we're done.

Best of luck.

Thank gosh i am forgetful, as I will quickly forget you and your useless purposeless need to belittle others. po

Thank you to others here who actually try to be of use.

Lobomojo wrote:

 

Thank gosh i am forgetful, as I will quickly forget you and your useless purposeless need to belittle others. po

 

Thank you to others here who actually try to be of use.

You said: "they should at least warn you when you set it it is not 1 time, it is forever until the end of time".  I pointed out that such information is readily available if you look for it.

And yes, everyone should look up the proper steps to a procedure before they attempt it the first time.  That's true in virtually everything in life.

Have you ever changed the brake pads on your car?  The first time you did so, did you look up how to do that in a manual, or did you just grab your tool box and start taking things apart?

If you don't understand how iTunes backups work, then look it up first.  If you fail to do so, then there's this thing called personal responsibility that you should look into.  In the current modern age, there's no excuse to not do the research first.

Knowledge is power.  Ignorance can be cured.

Maybe Apple should include in large, bold, flashing red text that encrypting your iTunes backup with a password means you need to save that password somewhere if you ever need it again.  And maybe your box of Cheerios should also have a warning label to eat slowly and chew your food before you swallow.

TJBUSMC1973 wrote:

And maybe your box of Cheerios should also have a warning label to eat slowly and chew your food before you swallow.

Cheerios should also include a warning that, if you give them to toddlers, they will slobber on them and then try to feed them to you. Happens every time.

Thankfully Apple products are far better, but not infallible, than the users like you two who give Apple and the apple community a bad name.  Y'all can simply **** off, enjoy your personnel insult fest.

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The original point for non-A's was simply that my upgrading to 7.1.2 was flawless and makes my iphone 4 work far better and faster without battery loss, for others that were wary.

Goodbye

Then why are you posting in a thread titled ' iOS 7.1.2 is buggy. Don't update'??

Perhaps start your own thread instead of confusing this one?

Pete

Lobomojo wrote:

 

Thankfully Apple products are far better, but not infallible, than the users like you two who give Apple and the apple community a bad name.  Y'all can simply **** off, enjoy your personnel insult fest.

Hmm. I suggest a feedback link and I'm insulting personnel? What personnel? Apple staff aren't in this thread. And even if they were, I don't think they'd be insulted by that. 

And, to date, I don't believe I've had to resort to profanity (or possibly just asterisks) to express myself.

Don't worry about it too much.  This is a simple case of ignorance, and a refusal to take steps to overcome that ignorance, and a refusal to take steps to avoid such problems in the future.  And, of course, the refusal to take personal responsibility and requesting a constant hand-holding for every little thing.

And it all started from a request that Apple make it known that an iTunes backup, if encrypted, requires you to remember the password to restore that backup in the future to an iOS device.  I'm still curious as to what he thought the point of a password is, if not to restrict access to that data.

You put a lock on something to restrict access to only those that have a key.  If you lose your key, do you blame the lock manufacturer for your mistake?

I think he thinks that each and every time you update the encrypted backup, you would have to make a new password.  Which is ridiculous and inconvenient.

TJBUSMC1973 wrote:

 

Don't worry about it too much.

No worries, I don't.

Iv'e also been experiencing problems with my Iphone 4 and my Ipad 2 since I updated to version 7.1.2 My phone/ipad are very slow, apps shut down randomly, screen freezes ect...