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Alright so apple's policy is 'Just Say No' to video burning. But yes to CD burning. Now this is a paradigm.

Financially speaking the iTunes store has a lot more to lose from people ripping mp3's and burning them as full quality CD'S [1411kbs vs. 128].

So what needs to be stated is not why the videos have a wrapper that negates the possibility to export the Qtime format but why doesn't apple have a competent method of securing the amount of burning that could be done through iDVD or FCS; 1 time for instance. When will Apple see the sense in allowing the burning of TV episodes which can be bought as a DVD set for about 20% less.

All this leads me to believe that perhaps some companies are resorting to the 70's method: stick a camera at the TV screen. And where is Apple going to get better quality without a little sacrifice [ all I'm asking for is the video zoom, without it too much is lost in comparison to regular DVD'S].

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Posted on Sep 15, 2006 3:46 PM

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Sep 15, 2006 11:55 PM in response to muzak

You need to understand that this is not Apple who is saying no to burning your own DVD. It is the copyright holders that have the control.

It is possible that various software companies do have the capability to do what you suggest - the copyright holders are preventing the legal use of the option.

As always you are free to purchase your content at other outlets other than the iTS.

MJ

Sep 16, 2006 12:34 AM in response to Mike Johnson12

You need to understand that this is not Apple who is
saying no to burning your own DVD. It is the
copyright holders that have the control.


Only up to the point where it's sold to Apple; Apple is dictating the terms to customers that producers have to agree with. And if producers can't give up the right then the resale value is significantly less than 20% more than the shelf value of the DVD series.

It's a fact that just about all motion picture DVD's come with copy protection but that's an entirely different form of protection that can be easily circumvented, it's also a consistent policy amongst film producers to use the same encryption.

On the contrary every TV series DVD I've bought is not copy protected and can be copied easily with Roxio's programs. The point is Apple had to make the Qtime format uninterpretable by it's own standards, that was not done by any other entity. Where we, the consumer lose out is in the quality comprimise, and it's a disgrace to a good market.

It's like this, I go to my local Whole Foods market with a plastic tub that weighs 1.2lbs, and at the register 1.2lbs worth the price of the product is refunded. This is similar to the burning of mp3's, more back for the money spent by discs burned. But videos are like paying the difference for the extra weight and getting none back.

Apple should learn from the downfalls of backdating stock options and deceiving the public about it that charging more for getting less is bad policy period!

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Sep 17, 2006 2:18 AM in response to muzak

Apple have very little control over the right you have with the media you purchase.

Apple do not buy the TV programmes and Movies from the Movie companies, they still own the rights and allow Apple to use them under their control.

Just like when you buy a CD in store you are bound by the law because of the rights of the copyright holder, not the store who sold it.

Apple have fought hard with the studios to get you the best deal they can, after all it is ins their interests that you get a deal that you are happy with, so that you buy more.

The studios would not give Apple the right to let you burn a DVD from the purchased material, simply because that DVD would then be able to be copied.

Ian

Sep 17, 2006 12:41 PM in response to Ian Parkinson

The only reason to bring this up is because I'd rather see people not get ripped off, in the long run if the demand drops prematurely perhaps Apple will reconcile their strategy and force their format to be copy-enabled.

Plenty of excuses can be made but the bottom line is that the Qtime format is copyrighted by Apple, not any other entity, no other company in the world has the right to publish material in that format without Apple's approval.

And that's it, it's not NTSC, it's Mpeg2/4/H.264, an inferior format from DVD standard. Unfortunately if you're buying this your getting ripped off, just like paying more for stock that's worth less at the time.

What will come out of this is another version of RogueAmoeba, (Limewire is too pathetic to mention) software or the like; point being this will cost Apple everything in the long run they will not sustain a market where the videos are getting ripped as fast as the mp3's.

Examples in the VHS market are rampant, in the beginning all the 80$+ brand new tapes had copyright protection, and in the end it's only rentals and richies like Disney that kept it.

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