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Q: VERY Strange occurrance. Not quite a catastrophe.

Greetings

 

This more of a report than a question or problem, as I don't anticipate a repeat. I cannot replicate it.

 

Short version... Went to About this Mac under the Apple menu, clicked More Info... to open System Profiler, clicked Power in the TOC under Hardware. After about 10 seconds --- WHAM !

  1. Blue screen
  2. Cursor came back after about 10 seconds
  3. Login dialog appeared as if System restart had occurred, but none of the normal processes of a restart.
  4. Logged in
  5. All apps opened as if "recovered" from a crash

 

I have been using Macs since Mac SE30 and have never seen anything like this.

 

For what its worth,

-- PowerBook PPC G3/500 FireWire (Pismo), 512Mb SDRAM, PCI: TXN,PCI1211-00:No Card, Mac OS X 10.4.11 (8S165) - Kernel version:Darwin 8.11.0, TOSHIBA MK4026GAX 40GB internal drive, MATSHITADVD-ROM SR-8174,  LaCie 1394 Disk drive LUN 0 SBP-LUN: 40GB FireWire drive, Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120306 Firefox/3.6.28


Anyone ever seen this misbehavior? Especially from a native app like System Profiler?


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CCC

Posted on Jul 13, 2014 3:01 PM

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  • by BDAqua,Solvedanswer

    BDAqua BDAqua Jul 13, 2014 3:31 PM in response to ChitlinsCC
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    Jul 13, 2014 3:31 PM in response to ChitlinsCC

    I don't believe I've ever seen it.

  • by K Shaffer,Helpful

    K Shaffer K Shaffer Sep 24, 2015 10:47 AM in response to ChitlinsCC
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    Sep 24, 2015 10:47 AM in response to ChitlinsCC

    Does the Console utility want to let you follow a trail of systemic bread crumbs

    to see if there may be a cause and effect, or at least some indication of what

    may have occurred? Doubtful it would be so helpful as to suggest anything, tho!

     

    Sounds like your 'ghost in the machine' is needing

    a transfusion of something more from elsewhere...

  • by ChitlinsCC,

    ChitlinsCC ChitlinsCC Jul 14, 2014 6:38 AM in response to K Shaffer
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    Jul 14, 2014 6:38 AM in response to K Shaffer

    Snicker...

     

    Console certainly shows the System Profiler had a series of errors... don't know what ANY of it means (does anyone except UNIX coders?)

     

    if you are curious the relevant portion is here => https://www.dropbox.com/s/hszxozv974u36y5/~CRASH_2014%3A06%3A13-%C2%B116-07.rtf  

    (testing out my new DropBox account)

     

    CCC

  • by BDAqua,Helpful

    BDAqua BDAqua Sep 24, 2015 10:50 AM in response to ChitlinsCC
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    Sep 24, 2015 10:50 AM in response to ChitlinsCC

    We need to see this...

     

    /Library/Logs/CrashReporter/loginwindow.crash.log

     

    Yiu can paste the text from Console directly here.

     

    Click on the top line we want, Shift plus click on the bottom line we want, CMD+c to copy, then paste the text in a reply with CMD+v

    A few dozen lines should be about right, hundreds or thousands won't likely be readable.

  • by ChitlinsCC,

    ChitlinsCC ChitlinsCC Jul 14, 2014 10:46 AM in response to BDAqua
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    Jul 14, 2014 10:46 AM in response to BDAqua

    BD....

     

    OK, you asked for it... Through THREAD 0...

     

    Host Name:  RoadRunner
    Date/Time:  2014-07-13 16:07:40.423 -0500
    OS Version: 10.4.11 (Build 8S165)

    Report Version: 4

     

    Command: loginwindow

    Path:/System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow

    Parent:  launchd [1]

     

    Version:    4.7.5 (4.7.5)

    Build Version:  1

    Project Name:   loginwindow

    Source Version: 11700600

     

    PID:66

    Thread: 0

     

    Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)

    Codes:  KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0000005c

     

    Thread 0 Crashed:

    0   com.apple.AppKit    0x937d6624 -[NSView _recursiveDisplayRectIfNeededIgnoringOpacity:isVisibleRect:rectIsVisibleRectFor View:topView:] + 1720
    1   com.apple.AppKit    0x937f6c94 -[NSThemeFrame _recursiveDisplayRectIfNeededIgnoringOpacity:isVisibleRect:rectIsVisibleRectFor View:topView:] + 192
    2   com.apple.AppKit    0x937cfca4 -[NSView _displayRectIgnoringOpacity:isVisibleRect:rectIsVisibleRectForView:] + 384
    3   com.apple.AppKit    0x937c4f98 -[NSView displayIfNeeded] + 248
    4   com.apple.AppKit    0x937c4e08 -[NSWindow displayIfNeeded] + 180
    5   com.apple.AppKit    0x937c4cb4 _handleWindowNeedsDisplay + 200

    6   com.apple.CoreFoundation     0x907de570 __CFRunLoopDoObservers + 352

    7   com.apple.CoreFoundation     0x907de810 __CFRunLoopRun + 420

    8   com.apple.CoreFoundation     0x907de2b0 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 268

    9   com.apple.HIToolbox 0x932adb20 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 264
    10  com.apple.HIToolbox 0x932ad12c ReceiveNextEventCommon + 244
    11  com.apple.HIToolbox 0x932ad020 BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 96
    12  com.apple.AppKit    0x93791734 _DPSNextEvent + 384
    13  com.apple.AppKit    0x937913f8 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 116
    14  com.apple.AppKit    0x9378d93c -[NSApplication run] + 472
    15  com.apple.loginwindow   0x00005aec 0x1000 + 19180
    16  com.apple.loginwindow   0x00005404 0x1000 + 17412
    17  com.apple.loginwindow  

    0x0001965c 0x1000 + 99932

    CCC

  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua Jul 14, 2014 4:22 PM in response to ChitlinsCC
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    Jul 14, 2014 4:22 PM in response to ChitlinsCC

    Was it running Safari or maybe Flash at the time this happened?

  • by ChitlinsCC,

    ChitlinsCC ChitlinsCC Jul 14, 2014 5:12 PM in response to BDAqua
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    Jul 14, 2014 5:12 PM in response to BDAqua

    BD.....

     

    Neither - even since startup Pismo.

     

    OpenApps:

    App = #windows

    FF = 3tabs(all ASC)

    Entourage = mail & signatures

    Grab = 0 windows

    XBattery = 4 windows

    ActivityMonitor = Active Processes & CPU floating Guage

    DropBox = not really 'windowed' much (like iCloud) shows as folder in SideBar like Desktop, Applications, etc

     

    ±180MB RAM = free ±90MB = inactive (best guess, of course - if average)

     

    FF recovered all tabs

    All Apps open up at login except Grab

  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua Jul 14, 2014 6:43 PM in response to ChitlinsCC
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    Jul 14, 2014 6:43 PM in response to ChitlinsCC

    I have had strange things happen, though not exactly that, with less than 200MB of RAM... less so with 10.4 than higher OS versions.

  • by ChitlinsCC,

    ChitlinsCC ChitlinsCC Jul 14, 2014 6:58 PM in response to BDAqua
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    Jul 14, 2014 6:58 PM in response to BDAqua

    SOP on my Pismo and never happened before or since.

     

    I didn't wanna influence anybody's thoughts on the matter, but I guess we are about to agree that weirdness happens occasionally.

     

    Odd that actions in System Profiler (very deep level OS & hardware monitoring & data collection) seems to be the obvious culprit in the system crash. At first, it really looked like a Windows crash, except that it recovered by itself.

     

    Ah well... one of life's great mysteries.

     

    CCC

     

    EDIT

    To be clear, OP states 512MB installed RAM - prior post approximates 200MB free/available.

  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua Jul 14, 2014 11:35 PM in response to ChitlinsCC
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    Jul 14, 2014 11:35 PM in response to ChitlinsCC
    I guess we are about to agree that weirdness happens occasionally.

    Yep.

  • by rccharles,

    rccharles rccharles Jul 16, 2014 2:31 PM in response to ChitlinsCC
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    Jul 16, 2014 2:31 PM in response to ChitlinsCC

    Try running in safe mode if problems persist.

    hold down shift key when booting  ... i think.

     

    I'm no expert on reading these things, but...

     

    Crashed when drawing a rectangle on the screen???  video problem? lot of display threads.

     

    Why all this stuff about login?  The machine was running for awhile after login wasn't it?  Maybe it is a unix thread login.

  • by ChitlinsCC,

    ChitlinsCC ChitlinsCC Jul 16, 2014 3:55 PM in response to rccharles
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    Jul 16, 2014 3:55 PM in response to rccharles

    rcc........

     

    Read the OP. I have no clue what any of the logs mean, only that it clearly corresponded to the time of the ONE-TIME event. Cannot replicate so no need to try safe mode.

     

    CCC