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PPC G5-Quad panic kernel woes

My G5-Quad had a kernel panic this afternoon.


Two attempts to reboot normally eventually ended in the gray box with the well-known multilingual instructions to restart the machine, obvious signs of further kernel panics.


Two attempts at running applejack in safe mode (Command S) were aborted by the machine shortly after it started checking stuff with a message like "Release the PPC, we are hanging here".


Now it doesn't even boot in safe mode. On an occasional try, a white screen with some small black text but does not accept any commands.


Then it just wont boot. It sounds normal for a while, then the fans and pump spring into heavy action.


I opened the optical drive with the straightened heavy paper clip (only way to open it) and put the AHT test, tried holding the Option key, but the same behavior persists: no signal sent to the monitor, then it sounds normal for a while, then the fans and pump spring into heavy action again.


The first time I got the kernel panel, I was able to copy the crash report, but now I can't even get at it.


I'm working on my Mac Pro Quad right now.


I hadn't had any trouble whatsoever with the PPC G5-Quad in so long, that I've practically forgotten all about troubleshooting a PPC (getting more "senior" by the day, with brain damage caused by a series of mini strokes; diabetic type 2)


Any ideas as to what to do next? I do need Classic and a PPC CPU to run a lot of irreplaceable and indispensable software that does not run on Intel machines.


If I can't fix this machine, I'll probably be looking for an exact replica of this (July, 2006) PPC G5-Quad. Hope to move RAM and cards, etc.


2.5 GHz Power Mac (PPC) G5-Quad; 16GB RAM; mutant, flashed 550MHz nVidia GeForce 7800GTX 1,700MHz 512MB VRAM; ATTO ExpressPCI UL5D LP SCSI card; Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11 and Leopard 10.5.8 boot drives; intrusive Spotblight, Dashboard and Time Machine permanently disabled; dual 22" CRT monitors; USB wireless 'n' available but connected to the Internet via wired Ethernet; FW flatbed scanner; 2 SCSI scanners (one tabloid-size transparency scanner and a film scanner); various internal & external HDs; FW Epson 2200 and Ethernet Samsung ML-2850ND printers; 2 X Back-UPS RS 1500 XS units.

PowerMac, Mac OS X (10.4.11), 2.5G5Quad,16GB,7800GTX 512MB, Tiger

Posted on Jul 27, 2014 11:27 PM

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Posted on Jul 28, 2014 10:26 AM

Long time no see!


Have you let it cool down & tried?


Have you opened it & checked for leaks?

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Aug 14, 2014 2:32 PM in response to BDAqua

I'm back, still struggling with this issue.


I was able to get the G5 Quad to boot from the ASD 2.6.3 DVD. Without prompting me, it ran the Thermal Calibration and, after considerable time working on each, reported that CPU 0 and CPU 1 passed both tests.


If it were a thermal post problem, I imagine it would have manifested itself in those 30 minutes or so, but it did not. Then it continued automatically, and gave me a bunch of lines, culminating in


Invalid memory access at

%SRR0: 00000000.00050e34

and

SRR0: 10000000.02083030


later again:


Invalid memory access at

%SRR0: 00000000.ff846 04c SSR1:1

%SRR0: 00000000.ff846 04c



Obviously I have no clue what any of that means. I'm hoping that points to bad RAM, as that is the easiest to fix. Is any of that a hint as to which memory banks are affected?


Thanks in advance.

Aug 14, 2014 3:20 PM in response to BDAqua

Nuts! Now it has been booted up to the OS X 10.3.6 install DVD for almost 30 minutes.


Repaired Disk with DU and it did find some stuff to repair.


Repaired permissions and verified disks alternatively a number of times,


rebooted, and it's working like nothing had ever happened.


I were still sane, this would have been enough to drive me insane. I'm not declaring victory yet. I'll report back.

Aug 14, 2014 3:49 PM in response to BDAqua

I'm glad you still suspect RAM.


In any event, I got a translucent gray screen on my secondary monitor, then the machine froze again, but without a kernel panic. Fans at high speed, obviously.


I forgot to mention that with ASD, I had gotten the flashing folder with the question mark, yet some command line interface kept running simultaneously with very thin black type on a white screen.


I'm letting it cool down a bit just in case, though nothing feels hot.

Aug 14, 2014 7:00 PM in response to BDAqua

BDAqua wrote:


…but if the drive repeatedly needs repairs I'd suspect RAM despite any RAM test.


Right on the button, BDAqua! Even the simplest RAM tests (Rember and Tech Tools) show two of the slots as empty, and the machine is maxed out at 8 x 2 GB = 16 GB total. If even one of the pair is bad, that's enough for the both of them to be reported as empty.


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Now even "About this Mac" shows only 12 GB, when even this morning it was showing 16 GB.



Thanks a million for your help, your tenacity and your saintly patience. 🙂

Aug 16, 2014 2:15 PM in response to BDAqua

My aim is to keep the G5 in best running condition. I'd have no need for BlueRay in that machine (to be honest, I've never looked into BlueRay at all, not quite sure what it is). The only thing I foresee running in the optical drive of the G5 Quad are Apple install and rescue CDs/DVDs, Disk Warrior and the like.


Booting from the current optical drive, everything runs at a glacial pace.

PPC G5-Quad panic kernel woes

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