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Would Samsung 850 Pro would work in a Macbook Pro Mid 2010??

Hi everyone,


I am thinking on replacing the HD (7200rpm) of my Macbook pro Mid 2010 (model 6.2) 2.66 GHz Core i7 with 8gb of RAM.

After researching a bit I got to the conclusion that the Samsung 840 pro is the SSD to go even thou my Macbook pro has Sata II

and the 840 pro is Sata III (Sata II compatible). I understand the limitations of the Sata II but still want to update it with a proper SSD.

But since Samsung has already released the new model 850 Pro with 3D V-NAND and both SSD are similar prices, my question is if I should go for the 850 instead and take advantage of the 3D V-NAND if there is any with the mid 2010 model. Has anyone already tested the 850 pro in the mid 2010 model or

similar one?? I am just worried that wont work on my model.

By the way I am running Mountain Lion 10.8.5.

Thanks in advance,

viersen

MacBook Pro (15-inch Mid 2010), OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Aug 1, 2014 4:54 AM

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Posted on Aug 1, 2014 10:25 AM

viersen,


I have a Samsung 840 PRO in my Mid 2010 MacBook Pro, and it works well. If you’d prefer the 850 PRO but have concerns about its functionality in your MacBook Pro, then purchase an 850 PRO from a company which has an acceptable return policy to you in case it doesn’t work well in your MacBook Pro.

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Aug 1, 2014 10:25 AM in response to viersen

viersen,


I have a Samsung 840 PRO in my Mid 2010 MacBook Pro, and it works well. If you’d prefer the 850 PRO but have concerns about its functionality in your MacBook Pro, then purchase an 850 PRO from a company which has an acceptable return policy to you in case it doesn’t work well in your MacBook Pro.

Aug 3, 2014 1:11 AM in response to Melophage

Hi Melophage,


Thanks for your quick reply, I have checked the return policy of few shops here in Ireland and Uk and so far their return policy does not covers any product open and tested. It is hard to have that policy on a delicate product.In the meanwhile, if there is anybody that have had purchased and tested the 850 PRO and like to share their experience would be of much help. I will probably wait a bit more and keep researching, but is great to know that

the 840 PRO works very good. Thanks for your help!

viersen

Aug 5, 2014 9:48 AM in response to viersen

Hello Viersen,


Your SATA II interface is the deciding factor. Paying more for a newer SSD will not give you any benefit because you are limited by the SATA II bandwidth. Even though a newer SSD can run at higher speeds, your computer cannot handle those speeds. It is like having 8 lanes of highway traffic merge and reduce to 4 lanes. Even though your car can go 200 miles an hour you are limited by the 8 lanes of traffic on four lanes. So price can be the determining factor in your case.


This article tells a little about the differences in SATA speeds and gives an example of how an SSD is limited by a slower SATA speed than the SSD was designed for.

http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/8142/~/difference-between-sata-i,- sata-ii-and-sata-iii


Good Luck!


PS. The 840 pro will drop in price once the 850 pro hits the market.

Aug 13, 2014 1:43 PM in response to angeloudimou

Hi Angeloudimou,


Thanks for your response and sorry for the late reply but I have been very busy here.

As previously mentioned, my intention is to get the best SSD drive possible for my Macbook Pro. I am interested on the lifespan or life expectancy and not on its speed. I know the limitations of the Sata II in relation with Sata III. I am not sure if you read my post on the top but if you read it you can see that I am aware of the speed limitations. But an SSD drive is not only about speed, it is also about lifespan and consistency. For example, the difference between the 840 EVO and the PRO apart from its NAND technology, is the layer cell distribution. The 840 EVO is a TLC SSD and the 840 PRO is MLC. This makes the 840 PRO not only faster but also a more consistent SSD due to its higher life expectancy. That is what I am looking for, a longer endurance SSD, because I work a lot with large audio files, music composition and video. Now, since the 850 PRO has been released, and knowing that it is the first 3D V-NAND in the market I want to know if my Macbook Pro somehow could take advantage of this, having in mind that the rest of its specs are very similar to the 840 PRO. Both are MLC but maybe the 850 PRO can provide better general results due to its 3D V-NAND structure.

My believe is that it wont make too much of a difference between 840 PRO and 850 PRO in my machine and I will probably get the 840 Pro, but if anyone have got the 850 PRO already and can share their experience and knowledge, its more than welcome.


Thanks,

Viersen

Aug 17, 2014 7:24 AM in response to viersen

Hello viersen,


I just finished installing a Samsung 850 Pro (512GB) on my mid 2010 MacBook Pro. My MBP has the same specs as yours: Model 6.2 with Intel Core i7 (2.66GHz), 8GB of RAM, and the dedicated NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M (512MB RAM). I also bought mine with the then-high-resolution-display of 1680x1050. Anyway, the SSD works great! It was actually quite easy to do the swap. I backed up my Mac on an external drive using Time Machine, I booted up the Mac with the new drive installed (using a boot up flash drive), formatted the new drive, installed Mavericks, and restored all my stuff from the Time Machine backup. The machine is considerably faster. Nevertheless, you are right. The mid 2010 MBP has a SATA II port of 3Gb/s that can only support a bandwidth throughput of up to 300MB/s. That said, instead of getting read/write speeds of up to 500MB/s (which the Samsung 850 Pro supports) you only get the maximum SATA II supports. It seems that my read/write speeds are consistently in the vicinity of 250 to 270MB/s (calculated using free "Blackmagic Disk Speed Test" app from the Mac App Store).


Here are my considerations. With the original drive (HDD 7200rpm) I was getting read/write speeds between 70 to 80MB/s... now I am getting over 3x that! So, even though the SATA II doesn't allow the Mac to use all the speed the SSD provides, you can technically say my Mac is 3x faster! And you can definitely tell it is 3x faster! So, the questions are:


1) Does the 850 Pro work on the mid 2010 MBP despite the limitations of its SATA II port?

Yes. SATA III is backwards compatible to SATA and SATA II. Nevertheless, when the SATA III (6Gb/s) is connected to a SATA II (3Gb/s) port, the drive can only reach up half the sequential read/write speed rates because SATA II only supports half of SATA III bandwidth throughput speeds.


2) Is it worth it to pay (as of today) $50 extra for the 850 Pro instead of saving those $50 and get the 840 Pro?

I think is worth paying the $50 extra and get the newest drive with the newest technology. The 840 Pro has 5 year limited warranty. The 850 Pro has a 10 year limited warranty. And although you probably won't have your mid 2010 MBP for that long, I'd rather have a drive that is rated for a longer life span. Besides, both drives (840 and 850) are SATA III.

I'd say, go for it! Get the Samsung 850 Pro! It works great!

Feb 17, 2015 2:17 AM in response to viersen

My MacBook Pro: - (15-inch, Mid 2009) - 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo - 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 - Graphics - NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256 MB

OS - Yosemite.........


I'df like to fit an SSD - and the 850 pro 512 GB the option I'm considering


Do you think it will be OK in My "Mid 2009" MacBook Pro?


I had a 7200 rpm 350 GB drive, when that failed I got a 1TB 5000 rpm drive and it is VERY cumbersome.

I'd like just to restore a bit of performance

Mar 12, 2015 7:45 AM in response to widawake

widawake, viersen,

did you get this SSD?


I did (850 EVO 500 GB) recently, and ran into some terrible file-system corruption issues (new discussion/question) over the first 10 days - considering returning it. Not sure yet if the problems are gone (SSD working fine for 2 days now).

Waiting to see if the problems re-surface in another day or so of use, then I'll see whether to get a replacement (of the same type, or alternate manufacturer).

Apr 9, 2015 9:12 AM in response to Melophage

I installed the Samsung 850 Pro in my mid-2010 MacBook Pro (6,2) and it works beautifully. It's a little faster than the Toshiba SSD that came with my MacBook but as stated in this thread it is limited by the system speed. But when I get a new MacBook, I'll get the standard 512GB drive then swap in my 850 Pro. Saving me money and time.

Oct 20, 2015 8:39 PM in response to Livin Stephen Sharma

Hi Livin,


did you solve the issue terrible file-system corruption with your Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB ?

I'm planning to buy the Samsung 850 PRO EVO 512 to replace the HD of my MacBookPro 3,1 late 2006.

According the specifications of my SATA device ICH8-M AHCI it supports up to 15 GB/s.

The Samsung 850 PRO EVO 512 is SATA 6GB/s (compatible with STA 3GB/s and SATA 1.5 GB/s).


So despite at first it should work I'd appreciate to hear about your success.


Thanks .

Oct 27, 2015 5:13 PM in response to MATEOJO

I've had the same experience as Livin with my 850 EVO. I managed, once, to work for most of a week after upgrading then lost everything to file system corruption. Multiple attempts to re-install have all failed. I've replaced the internal SATA cable (which is reported to be a common problem on the mid-2010 MBP) with no change in outcome. I have other SSDs around but am not keen on losing their contents while I experiment with them.


It seems, recently, that problems start after powering off the computer. When starting up, the computer immediately has trouble with the drive and eventually powers off after being unable to repair the disk. Removing the SSD and attaching it via USB, even after a complete fail when connected internally, works fine; the drive is able to be checked, mounted, and accessed. Lots of files will have been dumped into lost+found from the failed disk repair at boot time, so I'm back to square one and my original HD. Restarts after the install seem okay, and I'm able to restore from backups and work for a while. When things go wrong, however, they go seriously, irrevocably wrong.


I've been working on this for a couple weeks now and haven't found anything that helps. I'm hoping a fix materializes in a firmware update for the SSD, or possibly from the mold growing in the back of my refrigerator.

Dec 15, 2015 6:49 AM in response to kgirrard

Hi Kgirrard,


I experience the same problems as you and Livin: file corruption, kernel panics and eventual SDD failure for my Samsung 850 EVO.


My 15" Macbook Pro is a mid-2009 model (2.53ghz, 4GB RAM & Nvidia Geforce 9400 256MB) and I replaced my HDD with the 850 EVO a few months ago. At first, I simply cloned my existing HDD (running Snow Leopard) into the SDD and it started to give me problems after a couple of days. Lots of "beachballs", kernel panics, lost+found files and then it stopped booting after a week. I've tried clean installing several OSX (Lion and Yosemite) and they both failed after approximately a week or so. There doesn't seem to be any new firmware for the 850 EVO on Samsung's website and I'm completely stumped. So far, I haven't been able to isolate the root of the problem... I wonder if this is caused by an incompatibility between the 850 EVO and the old MBP models.

Two days ago, I gave the 850 EVO another shot and clean installed El Capitan on it. I am running TRIM too and with fingers crossed, hoping that this will finally work. I'll let you guys know this SDD fails again.


Cheers,
Desmond

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