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Does DiskWarrior do anything?

Back in February i bought a new MacBook Pro to replace my nearly 3 year old 17 inch MBP and the first day after I get the new MBP set up the old hard drive starts having problems. Then I started trying to get the most important stuff off of it. I usually drag it off to my 13 TB QNAP NAS and most of it is there but naturally it would be nice to just get one more look at it. So I got DW and gave it a try. After days of working with it to no avail I set things aside and planned on coming back when I got time - which is now. Once again I am seeing the uselessness of DW. It spent 2 days "rebuilding the directory" which is proudly listed a long report of all its accomplishments. The problem is that nothing will copy off the drive. It seems to have created a worthless folder of "recovered files" none of which have an identifiable file extension. Trying to copy the files one by one since they show up in the directory does not produce even 1 file that will copy off the drive. Is there some setting somewhere that I missed that makes it work or is this what they call "working"?


Thanks - in a couple of days I will drop in the 1 TB SSD drive and forget about it but I would love to find out that DW was able to save even 1 file. That would justify its lofty price.


Thanks

G

Posted on Aug 3, 2014 7:07 PM

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Aug 3, 2014 8:21 PM in response to gmizzell

Disk Warrior is an expensive and specialized application whose only use is to try to recover data from a damaged volume that Disk Utility can't repair, and for which there are no backups.

If you're in that position, then instead of spending about $100 on software that you should never need again, make a "Genius" appointment at an Apple Store, where the program is available for the "Geniuses" to use on customers' machines at no charge.

The only reason to buy your own copy is that you can't get to an Apple Store, or (like Apple) you provide help-desk services to other Mac users who don't back up their data. Otherwise, Disk Warrior is a waste of money. What it does—recreating a volume directory—can be done better and faster for free by erasing the volume and restoring from a backup. That's assuming you have a working backup, of course. Not having one is a mistake you shouldn't make more than once.

The kind of directory corruption that you might need Disk Warrior to recover from can, for all practical purposes, only happen because of a hardware malfunction. It is not caused by forced shutdowns or system crashes. Any drive that malfunctions in that way should preferably be replaced at once. Even if you choose to take the risk of continuing to use the drive after the first such incident, after any repetition the drive should be wiped and recycled, not restored. Occasionally the fault might be in another internal component, or in an external drive enclosure, rather than in the drive mechanism itself.

There may still be some people who believe that rebuilding a volume directory improves performance. There has never been any evidence, as far as I know, to support that belief, and the last time I checked, the developer of Disk Warrior was no longer making such a claim on its website. Whenever I've asked DW advocates to substantiate their belief in its value, the response has always been along the lines of, "Because I say so," or "Because X says so." But every time I check, X either never made the statement, or else he has no data to support it. Nevertheless, if you have reasons of your own to believe that rebuilding a directory is a useful maintenance step—rather than pointless busywork—you can do it faster and more safely by erasing the volume and restoring from a backup. No third-party software is needed for that.

Disk Warrior is not a maintenance tool; it's a recovery tool. If you have adequate backups—which means multiple backups—you’ll never need a recovery tool, and therefore Disk Warrior is useless to you. If you don't back up, you'll eventually lose all your data, and Disk Warrior won't be able to save you. Don't waste money on it or anything like it. Spend the money on backup drives instead.

Aug 4, 2014 6:16 AM in response to Linc Davis

Linc


Thanks for the reply - I had already read your info in previous postings you have made. I am not sure it addressed the question - is there something that I missed or is that really all that DW does.


I agree with your points about it being pretty worthless in rebuilding the directory and that leading to improvement. There really is still a strong market for someone to write a helpful file recovery tool for the mac world. My approach over the past 20 years has been to accept that hard drives will fail in far less time than the mfgr says they will and the best approach is to plan to replace them every 2-3 years - before they die. Then I use the old ones to only store backup material that I do not need very often. TimeMachine does not provide anything resembling a good user interface that allows me to recover something from it. It is extremely rare that I would want a complete system recovery - I usually want a few files recovered.


Thanks for the reply

Aug 4, 2014 7:02 AM in response to Linc Davis

Linc


Thanks for the reply - I probably should tell a little more info - my files are rarely small document files. I can't store much in the icloud environment as described in that article. I have 15 GB of iCloud and I am usually working with video files that can be larger than that for one file. The file transfer time on my super sorry ATT internet connection would be measured in weeks. Since FinalCut X generates render files like crazy - TimeMachine goes wild trying to keep up and all of the render files can be from 500MB to 2 or 3 GB. I have to keep deleting them to keep from running out of space on my 3 drives that are 2 TB each. I would want to be selective and tell it exactly what to backup and not back up everything. My biggest need would be to recover - intact - my MS Entourage file that would be like a PST file on a windows machine. It is several GB in size and of course is a MS proprietary file structure. For the dead notebook that is the most important file and you typically can't back up that file without having quit Entourage to do so, which is not my practice. An open data file for Entourage is not backed up because the file it open. Almost everything else, as soon as I pull it off my cameras I make a copy to my NAS and my 1 TB SSD drive to work with. I am migrating to all gmail for email to eliminate the dependence on MS any more.


Thanks for the reply - I will study TimeMachine more and see if I can figure anything out this time around. I am really ticked that Apple does not recognize the QNAP implementation of their own TimeMachine software on NAS drives that are big enough to be useful.


G

Aug 4, 2014 9:24 AM in response to gmizzell

What Linc said.


Over the years, and prior to my switch to a fast SSD, I used DiskWarrior in a 1 - 2 month maintenance cycle. Although OS X does not permit disk fragmentation, the system database that tracks filesystem objects and their storage locations apparently gets porous, and this is what DW reports as its percentage of so-called fragmentation in its graphic display. On a slow drive, and with no other operating system additions to interfere with OS X performance, the aftermath of running DW made a noticeable crispness in storage I/O performance. More so, than say, the aftermath of a Safe Boot process.


I no longer run, or need to run Disk Warrior.

Aug 4, 2014 6:41 PM in response to VikingOSX

Thanks to all - While it does not solve my problem I am now resigned to the fact that DiskWarrior is indeed worthless - Otiose - functionless and that they did, however, appreciate my donation. I will kiss whatever files I had not copied goodbye and move on to the new SSD hard drive when it arrives. I may see if I can throw the DW disc across my lake - it might be a good $100 Frisbee.:)

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