Can't resize MIDI region

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Can't resize MIDI region

I have encountered several regions while using Logic that won't let me resize them. It will let me resize them to a certain point (let's say I am grabbing the beginning of the region) and then no matter how far I move the beginning of the region to the right its length simply won't change. It's driving me crazy. As I move the pointer to the top left of the region it changes to the resize tool. It will allow me to grab and drag but when I let go of the mouse there is no change to the length of the region.
The region I'm working with currently that has this problem is about 8 measures long, so I know that I'm not trying to make it "too short" or something like that. I'm hoping the solution is just something simple that I'm missing. Thanks in advance.

Dual 2.5 GHz G5, Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Posted on Sep 17, 2006 4:08 PM

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Answer 1

Bee Jay

Level 6

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Sep 17, 2006 5:34 PM in response to Samuel Richards

Sonther - yes I was referring to the start point only.

Samuel - there is a fundamental difference between audio regions and MIDI regions.

Audio regions are simply a "window" onto a larger entity - the audio file itself.

MIDI regions are not windows onto some other data type, they actually contain the MIDI events themselves, therefore they have to be able to encompass the events they contain.

Now, you can reduce the length, because internally Logic has a "length" value. Therefore a region can contain events lasting 8 bars but can have a display in the arrange of 2 bars. However, you can't have events before the start of a region, because Logic doesn't differentiate a "MIDI data starts here for this region" value and a "display the region starting here" value.

It's just the way Logic is currently programmed.

That is why events can go on for longer than the region displays, but not be placed before the region starts.

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Answer 2

Bee Jay

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Sep 17, 2006 4:46 PM in response to Samuel Richards

Also, you can't resize MIDI regions to be smaller than the data they contain. if you have an event at 2 1 1 1 and you try to move the start of the region by resizing to 3 1 1 1, you won't be able to.

In this case, simply use the scissors tool to cut off the data you don't want, and resize accordingly.

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Answer 3

sonther

Level 3

570 points

Sep 17, 2006 4:59 PM in response to Bee Jay

bj...of course you are referring to the starting point only...

One certainly can shorten the length of the region, although the region will contain many more bars of data/information/events after the "end" of the region 🙂

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Answer 4

Sep 17, 2006 5:19 PM in response to Samuel Richards

O.K. Not being able to making the region "start" after the data contained in the regions makes sense. Why is there this limitation though? Why not just make both the beginning and end of MIDI regions as resizable as the user wishes (just like audio regions) then simply begin triggering the events contained in the region as soon as the region begins? It's a real pain to have to go into the matrix editor and delete triggered notes "before" you want the region to start just so the starting point can be bumped up a few bars or so.

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