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Q: iMessage conflicting with talk.google

I logged onto my Mac and saw that my iMessage wasn't working so I tried to log in. But when I went to log in, It told my I had to log in using my talk.google.com password. I don't even know what talk.google.com is and donut have an account or password for it. How do I get back into my iMessage?

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Posted on Aug 17, 2014 10:32 PM

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  • by cyachanin,

    cyachanin cyachanin Aug 18, 2015 8:59 PM in response to VineScarlet6227
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    Aug 18, 2015 8:59 PM in response to VineScarlet6227

    Since nobody else's reply seemed to work for me because my computer was already defaulted to those settings, I took the matter into my own hands. I found out that if you go under the message preferences, then under accounts, it displays your apple ID. Right next to your apple ID is a sign out button and I found that if I sign out and sign back in it seems to all the sudden work again for me.

  • by joloupen,

    joloupen joloupen Sep 7, 2015 5:45 PM in response to steveplz
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    Sep 7, 2015 5:45 PM in response to steveplz

    Hi Steveplz,

     

    I tried to follow your steps above however I get this screen when trying to turn on/off less secure apps

    Screen Shot 2015-09-08 at 8.40.07 am.png

    So now Im stuck... I have a gmail address which is also my apple ID. I am trying to set it up on a mac for use in iMessage but every time I do it automatically turns it into a Jabber account. Is there a way to get rid of Jabber?

    Thanks

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Sep 8, 2015 11:56 AM in response to joloupen
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    Sep 8, 2015 11:56 AM in response to joloupen

    Hi,

     

    In Internet Accounts make sure the Google ID is not set for Messages.

     

    Is it also the ID used as the iCloud ID ?

    I have an external to Apple email which is my Main Apple ID.  However when I joined iCloud This gave me an @me.com ID linked to the original ID.

    Later I also got an @iCloud.com ID.

     

    At the last Update I did the main ID got used as the iCloud ID (I had been syncing Contacts Apps with the @me.com one).

    I had to Sign Out of the Account the Internet Accounts/iCloud was using so that I could then set Messages with the right ID  and use the @me.com as the iCloud ID.

     

     

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    7:56 p.m.      Tuesday; September 8, 2015

     

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     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad
  • by MacPat8,

    MacPat8 MacPat8 Dec 13, 2015 12:55 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    Dec 13, 2015 12:55 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    Thank you this helped but took me forever cause I didn't understand what Web mail page implied then once I figured it out then had to search forever to get to turn off "Less secure". After doing so then I was able to obtain the accounts setting window like your example picture. Then was able to type in password. Now works great I think video explanations would work better for people like me. lets call it "trouble shooting for dummies" LOL

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Dec 13, 2015 1:11 PM in response to MacPat8
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    Dec 13, 2015 1:11 PM in response to MacPat8

    Hi,


    The site used to allow you to post Videos but no longer does. (the icon is greyed out)

    I never found out why.  (Probably to do with shortened URLs leading to stuff not suitable for 13 years old - how old you have to be to post here, although storage may also have been an issue).

     

    Animated .gifs or .pngs could be used but take so long to create.

     

    I could have posted more pics.

     

    Glad to hear you got there in the end.

     

     

     

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    9:11 pm      Sunday; December 13, 2015

     

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     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad
  • by kalm01,

    kalm01 kalm01 Dec 31, 2015 9:22 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    Dec 31, 2015 9:22 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    Thank you so much for explaining this; this has been confusing me for a long time. Very helpful information.

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Jan 2, 2016 8:53 AM in response to kalm01
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    Jan 2, 2016 8:53 AM in response to kalm01

    You are welcome.

     

    Thanks for posting as it marks the older thread for a closer look by bringing it to the top  of the first page again which in turn means someone else might find it useful.

     

     

     

     

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    4:53 pm      Saturday; January 2, 2016

     

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     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad
  • by pollin8,

    pollin8 pollin8 Jan 7, 2016 3:02 AM in response to steveplz
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    Jan 7, 2016 3:02 AM in response to steveplz

    Steve you ROCK! This solved my issue too, thank you so much...it was just the Google setting for less secure apps.

  • by desiraefromorlando,

    desiraefromorlando desiraefromorlando Feb 22, 2016 9:34 AM in response to i5884
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    Feb 22, 2016 9:34 AM in response to i5884

    Thank you so much, hopefully this is the end of the road with this madness. I never ever wanted to do the verification, I would skip it all the time, but I guess I had to at this point. It took a few tries until I realized that when the talk.google.com password pop-up window came up again, this is after going through the steps of the verification and typing in the password they gave me, I had to click other as the app then type "talk.google.com" as the name of the app. Once I did that I typed in the given password by google and my Messages signed me into my gmail account as available.

  • by julielava,

    julielava julielava Apr 26, 2016 7:48 AM in response to steveplz
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    Apr 26, 2016 7:48 AM in response to steveplz

    I have been having this issue for about a month. I got a notification about the app not being secure and then never got the notification again, but I still couldn't log-in no matter what I tried. This link completely worked and who knew it would be something so simple! I never would have figured this out without your link.

    THANK YOU!!

  • by soxfan25,

    soxfan25 soxfan25 May 8, 2016 12:52 PM in response to steveplz
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    May 8, 2016 12:52 PM in response to steveplz

    Thank you!!!  I've been struggling with this for days, no idea how that access security was changed.

  • by Tohnloc,

    Tohnloc Tohnloc May 21, 2016 10:37 AM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    May 21, 2016 10:37 AM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    I have a problem between Google Hangouts on my iPhone (iOS 9.3.2) and Messages on my MacbookPro (El Capitan 10.11.5).  OSX Messages is not seeing any out-bound text sent using the iOS Hangouts app.

     

    - Outbound text using iOS Hangouts sent to Google Chat recipients  -- do not show up on Messages chat window.

    - Outbound text using OSX Messages to Google Chat recipients -- do show up on iOS Hangouts

     

    In Messages, the address for the chat used to show "xxx@gmail.com Google Talk."  Now it shows "alphanumeric string@public.talk.google.com." 

     

    It used to be seamless and both Hangouts and Messages showed both sides of the conversation regardless of the sending app/device.  I'm not sure what changed or how to fix it.

     

    Any thoughts?

     

    Thank you!

     

    David

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) May 21, 2016 1:56 PM in response to Tohnloc
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    May 21, 2016 1:56 PM in response to Tohnloc

    Hi,

     

    I have not got Google Hangouts on my iPhone.

     

    I can describe things from the Mac end.

    I never signed up for Hangouts as I have been using my Google ID with GoogleTalk for years.

    I have never signed up for their 2 step verification but have enabled "Less Secure apps" as iChat and Messages both only use SSL to connect (so does Mail but Google used to ignore that fact as well - different servers)

     

    This meant that Messages used the talk.google.com server it has used since iChat 3 (in iChat 3 there was not a Google entry point and you had to change the server after setting up the account)

     

    More recently ( the last two weeks) I have been trying to reset Messages back to using the talk.google.com server as it caused Google to lock me out via Messages the other day.

    I got this email

    google_mail_alert.png

     

    The Google System seemed to identify my messages Login attempt as a different computer despite the time being my login time.

    the Server has changed to gmail.com and is not using SSL and does not seem to want to change.

     

    It would seem that Google have made some changes to the GoogleTalk and Hangout servers - probably aiming for "better" integration that is causing some headaches.

     

    I can only suggest reviewing your settings at Google and on the devices you are using.

     

     

     

     

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    9:56 pm      Saturday; May 21, 2016

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz i5 2011 (El Capitan)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     iPhone and an iPad (2)
  • by PJ_OConnor,

    PJ_OConnor PJ_OConnor Jun 16, 2016 6:03 AM in response to VineScarlet6227
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    Jun 16, 2016 6:03 AM in response to VineScarlet6227

    I had this problem too. I assumed I was supposed to enter my google password, because of the 'talk.google.com' message, but your google and gmail passwords obviously don't work. You have to enter your apple password.

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Jun 17, 2016 11:19 AM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    Jun 17, 2016 11:19 AM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    Ummm,

     

    Got an email about this now being marked "Recommended"

     

    It was posted over a year ago and the answer may no longer apply.

    (I cannot get Less Secure Apps setting to allow Messages to sign in using SSL - it now accepting non SSL logins)

     

     

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    7:19 pm      Friday; June 17, 2016

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz i5 2011 (El Capitan)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     iPhone and an iPad (2)
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