iMessage conflicting with talk.google

I know this is old but just to answer correctly. Any account you have should have dual authentication enabled. To enable:

• For your Apple ID: From within OSX-iOS Two-factor authentication for Apple IDor from a better OS - Two-step verification for Apple ID.
• For your your Google account: Two-step-verification

Applications that use simple authentication will need an app password

• Google - Sign in using App Passwords
• Apple - Using app-specific passwords

HI,

I had an issue tat seemed to arise in Sierra that was not there before about logging in to what was my Google Talk account in Messages.

Firstly I have set Less Secure apps at Google.

Logging in to Google Web Mail is my normal starting point.

Then use the pic you have top Right to access the panel and select My Account.

The page that appears looks like this:-

I chose the third option of App and Sites.

The whole Menu now appears on the left and you have to scroll down to Apps and Sites

As you can see I have Less Secure apps On.

This is because Messages uses SSL in most cases to sign in to servers including the Google one where as Google now have there own Oauth tokens and have deemed SSL "Less Secure".

I have never tried the 2 Step Verification from Google as suggested above.

That was my set up before I had the new issue and is still my set up now.

In System Preferences > Internet account I had Google set up for Mail and Messages and until Sierra this worked.

Messages and the Google account then refused to Login and changing the Server Settings for the account in Messages did not work (it is over ridden by Internet Accounts).

What I did was remove the Google Account from Mail, Internet Accounts and Messages.

I then deleted the com.apple.iChat.Jabber.plist from ~/Library/Preferences

Open a Finder window. Use the Go Menu whilst holding down the ALT Key.

Select the Library that appears.

Navigate to Preferences (Drag the item to the Trash)

Then I restarted Messages and Added the Google account.

I checked the Server setting tab:-

SSL, port 5223 and the server name of talk.google.com

I then went to System Preferences > Internet Account and the new Google Account and enabled Mail.

It now logs in to Google's Talk server and to it's Mail Server without issue.

What I did find in El Capitan is that Yahoo, Google, Linkedin, some AIM Accounts (I have more than one) became active for Contacts in System Preferences > Internet Accounts which causes issues for Messages - Messages has to wait until they are all checked but Contacts gets stuck in an endless loop of checking all the servers again and again even when there are not changes effectively blocking the use of Messages.

I hope this helps.

7:53 pm Friday; February 17, 2017

Hi,

I agree with IdrisSeabright.

My last reply did focus on my set up that I have been using for years.

The "Updating" of the thread to include newer info seems perfectly logical to me.

8:08 pm Wednesday; March 22, 2017

Hi,

If you have posted in this thread and have not changed your Subscriptions to the ones you have joined then you will get new emails each time someone posts.

See the My Subscriptions on the top rightish

You can change thing here.

8:17 pm Thursday; March 23, 2017

HI,

If you are not using Google Talk, or as it is called now, Hangouts then you can turn the option off in System Preferences > Internet Accounts > Google.

A Google Id email can be used as an Apple ID.

AS an Apple ID it could be used as the ID in iMessages.

This could mean the ID is used twice in Messages as the Apple ID and the Google one (if it still shows).

All Apple IDs issued by Apple over the years (@Mac.com @me.com if then registered with iCloud and @icloud.com ones themselves) can be used as AIM valid Screen Names and can similarly be added as the iMessages ID and an AIM account ID in Messages.

The difference is the AIM and Apple have a deal and a process part of this is that Messages will login to AIM and Apple and the AIM account uses the same Password and can be "read" from the Apple servers.

8:44 pm Tuesday; May 30, 2017

You're welcome.

8:51 pm Friday; June 2, 2017

Hey so i had this exact same issue after changing my Apple ID password and i solved it using the following:

Check your Apple ID

To make sure that your Apple ID and password are correct, go to the Apple ID account page and sign in with the same Apple ID that you're using with Messages and FaceTime. If that works, open the app and take these steps:

• Messages: Choose Messages > Preferences, then click Accounts. Select your iMessage account, then click Sign Out. Now sign in again with the same Apple ID you used on the Apple ID account page.
• FaceTime: Choose FaceTime > Preferences. In the Settings tab, click Sign Out. Then sign in again with the same Apple ID you used on the Apple ID account page.

Essentially the issue is iMessage is talking to the google account which also exist in the Messages preferences pane and that error is showing in lieu of the app prompting you to sign into iMessage proper again with your new password. Simply select the iMessage account from the accounts page in preferences and enter the new password and your golden. Good luck!!!

Sadly that did not help. The information you claimed would appear was not what came up when I followed your instructions. In fact I have read thru most of the replies here, the information supplied is far too brief to make any sense out of. Some of the screens pictures in the replies must have been invented for the reply because there is never an explanation of how to get that screen to appear or whether it's an Apple screen or a google screen. This type of information would be of much greater help. It's pointless offering an explanation with page illustrations, if there is no explanation of exactly where or how that page was produced. Again, it is all very well for those that understand, but their understanding "skips past" the very steps that many get stuck on. I'm convinced that there are very few people in this world who truly have the talents to take the complicated, and simplify the process. I appreciate the effort put in by so many, but the blame rests squarely on the shoulders of those who design these systems and have have sought to use their knowledge with a degree of ego, which helps nobody.

Yeah well I just went and redid it to check and it worked perfectly. Maybe you have a different issue but as far as chat and other services that are blocked because of two factor authentication and other security an app specific password is the new standard.

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iMessage conflicting with talk.google

Hi,

I agree with IdrisSeabright.

My last reply did focus on my set up that I have been using for years.

The "Updating" of the thread to include newer info seems perfectly logical to me.

https://discussions.apple.com/content/attachment/825378040

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I have tried doing absolutely everything in this forum and nothing has worked. I'm running Sierra on an iMac at work. I wasn't having any issues previously because I was not logged into my gmail account. I had to reset the password and had not gotten around to it because, frankly, I rarely use my gmail. I reset it on Friday and got messages on my iMac without issue until I went home over the weekend and signed into my gmail on my phone and iPad. If I get rid of my gmail account entirely, will this problem go away? Because I'm ready to.

Nothing worked even the answer below this.. no shade 😃... Until I tried sending a message. Then a pop up said I wasn't signed in. It took me to the accounts menu. At the bottom there was a tab for iMessage. It asked me to login with a verification code and I was back up and running. Hope this helps.

Hey there VineScarlet6227,

It sounds like you are being prompted to log in to a Google Talk account but you are unsure why or what that is. Google Talk is a chat service that can be set up in the Messages application. You can configure it in the Messages application preferences with this info from the following article:

Messages (Mavericks): Set up your accounts

http://support.apple.com/kb/PH15055

Set up other accounts just for use in Messages

1. Choose Messages > Preferences, then click Accounts.
2. Click Add (+), choose “Other messages account,” then click Continue.
3. Click an account type from the pop-up menu, then enter your account information.

   Google Talk:	Enter your Google Talk account name (for example, dbecker3@gmail.com) and password.

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HI,

I am going to phrase this a little differently.

The Messages app can login to several different Services that do "messaging" in one form or another.

iMessages is just one account that you can use.

iMessages takes an Apple ID to "register" your Mac with the iMessages service (run by Apple and is Mac and iOS only)

You can also register with the AIM service (An AIM or AOL registered Name or an Apple ID issued by Apple (@mac.com and @me.com and @icloud.com that are linked to an iCloud account) (There was a time when Apple Issued @me.com name under the MobileMe service but these will not longer work for iMessages if they were allowed to lapse at the closure of MobileMe/Start of iCloud).

You can also join the Jabber service.

This is a collection of servers that work together. The IDs look like emails but rarely are (Google being an Exception)

Servers can be Private (work or home based) where only certain people can join. Other are Public server that anyone can register with.

Most have the format of the Jabber ID being a username @ a servername.com or net (as in ralphjohns@jabber.au.com to use the Australian Jabber.com server as an example).

Google allow both the @gmail.com and the @googlemail.com names to be valid as their Jabber IDs but this causes a naming issue in most Jabber based apps.

Apple got around this in iChat 4 (and through to Messages 8 in Mavericks) by creating a separate Google Login process.

Instead of using gmail.com and/or google.mail.com as the Server Name, Google use talk.google.com

IF...

You were using Lion (iChat 6) before moving to Mountain Lion (Messages 7) or directly to Mavericks (Messages 8) then the System Preferences > Mail, Contacts and Calendars pane in Mountain Lion and Internet Accounts in Mavericks may have activated a Google Email account for Messages as well as the Mail app.

i.e. if you have an Google email account then the System may have added it to Messages for you.

The alternative it that your Google email is also your Apple ID and you were using that as your iMessages "registered" ID.

Summary

Messages is the app and iMessages is just one potential account you can login to.

A Google email may therefore be your Apple ID and used as the "registered' name in iMessages or it may also be a Jabber ID that is logged in for the Jabber server.

Yours sounds like it is a Jabber ID in this case.

8:10 pm Wednesday; August 20, 2014

I have the same problem. iMessage wants me to log in, but the log-in window that pops up is for Talk.Google. It doesn't accept my Google password. I received an email message immediately from Google, saying someone had used my password to log in, and Google blocked it, as it was logging in from a not secure application.

I followed the instructions in the article attached to this answer. However, we now have Yosemite, and maybe this doesn't work. I went to Messages, Preferences, Accounts, and there is no iMessage account in the left column to choose to log into. The options are Google Talk, Gmail messages (which has the same icon) but already is listed as an account, and Yahoo. One can also select AIM.

I'm not clear on how to log in to the iMessage account still.