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Q: iMac (2010 model) does not start up since latest OS X update

Last week, I noted an OS X update available so I tried to install it. Up to then, the iMac (2010 model) worked fine. After downloading and installing the computer restarted however 'hangs' in opening grey screen with apple logo and turning wheel. Also after reinstalling OS X yesterday (downloading/installing worked fine) it restarted but again it is 'hanging'. During start up i can access via command - R the recovery tools; I tested harddiscs etc but all works fine. In summary; it looks like this OS X update causes a fatal failure with my iMac. Does anybody have a suggestion what to do?

iMac, OS X Mavericks (10.9.4)

Posted on Aug 19, 2014 2:29 AM

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Q: iMac (2010 model) does not start up since latest OS X update

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  • by Mike Sombrio,

    Mike Sombrio Mike Sombrio Aug 19, 2014 3:55 AM in response to KGBU
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    Aug 19, 2014 3:55 AM in response to KGBU

    TTry a Safe Boot to see if that fixes things OS X: What is Safe Boot, Safe Mode?

    IF you still have problems follow the steps here Mac OS X: Gray screen appears during startup

  • by a brody,

    a brody a brody Aug 19, 2014 5:34 AM in response to KGBU
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    Aug 19, 2014 5:34 AM in response to KGBU

    Updates would not "cause" a fatal failure like this.  Rather an underlying software may not be compatible, the drive may be marginal but not detectable as a problem, the RAM may be marginal, and not precisely compatible.  If your data is not backed up, read this tip:

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-1689

     

    It also includes directions for repairing the directory if it is backed up.

     

    Resetting the SMC might help.    If the PRAM battery hasn't been replaced in the last 4 years it might also help to bring it in to service to do that.

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Aug 19, 2014 12:06 PM in response to KGBU
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    Aug 19, 2014 12:06 PM in response to KGBU

    Take each of these steps that you haven't already tried. Stop when the problem is resolved.

    Step 1

    The first step in dealing with a startup failure is to secure the data. If you want to preserve the contents of the startup drive, and you don't already have at least one current backup, you must try to back up now, before you do anything else. It may or may not be possible. If you don't care about the data that has changed since the last backup, you can skip this step.

    There are several ways to back up a Mac that is unable to start. You need an external hard drive to hold the backup data.

    a. Start up from the Recovery partition, or from a local Time Machine backup volume (option key at startup.) When the OS X Utilities screen appears, launch Disk Utility and follow the instructions in this support article, under “Instructions for backing up to an external hard disk via Disk Utility.” The article refers to starting up from a DVD, but the procedure in Recovery mode is the same. You don't need a DVD if you're running OS X 10.7 or later.

    b. If Step 1a fails because of disk errors, and no other Mac is available, then you may be able to salvage some of your files by copying them in the Finder. If you already have an external drive with OS X installed, start up from it. Otherwise, if you have Internet access, follow the instructions on this page to prepare the external drive and install OS X on it. You'll use the Recovery installer, rather than downloading it from the App Store.

    c. If you have access to a working Mac, and both it and the non-working Mac have FireWire or Thunderbolt ports, start the non-working Mac in target disk mode. Use the working Mac to copy the data to another drive. This technique won't work with USB, Ethernet, Wi-Fi, or Bluetooth.

    d. If the internal drive of the non-working Mac is user-replaceable, remove it and mount it in an external enclosure or drive dock. Use another Mac to copy the data.

    Step 2

    If the startup process stops at a blank gray screen with no Apple logo or spinning "daisy wheel," then the startup volume may be full. If you had previously seen warnings of low disk space, this is almost certainly the case. You might be able to start up in safe mode even though you can't start up normally. Otherwise, start up from an external drive, or else use the technique in Step 1b, 1c, or 1d to mount the internal drive and delete some files. According to Apple documentation, you need at least 9 GB of available space on the startup volume (as shown in the Finder Info window) for normal operation.

    Step 3

    Sometimes a startup failure can be resolved by resetting the NVRAM.

    Step 4

    If you use a wireless keyboard, trackpad, or mouse, replace or recharge the batteries. The battery level shown in the Bluetooth menu item may not be accurate.

    Step 5

    If there's a built-in optical drive, a disc may be stuck in it. Follow these instructions to eject it.

    Step 6

    Press and hold the power button until the power shuts off. Disconnect all wired peripherals except those needed to start up, and remove all aftermarket expansion cards. Use a different keyboard and/or mouse, if those devices are wired. If you can start up now, one of the devices you disconnected, or a combination of them, is causing the problem. Finding out which one is a process of elimination.

    Step 7

    If you've started from an external storage device, make sure that the internal startup volume is selected in the Startup Disk pane of System Preferences.

    Start up in safe mode. Note: If FileVault is enabled, or if a firmware password is set, or if the startup volume is a software RAID, you can’t do this. Post for further instructions.

    Safe mode is much slower to start and run than normal, and some things won’t work at all, including wireless networking on certain Macs.

    The login screen appears even if you usually log in automatically. You must know the login password in order to log in. If you’ve forgotten the password, you will need to reset it before you begin.

    When you start up in safe mode, it's normal to see a dark gray progress bar on a light gray background. If the progress bar gets stuck for more than a few minutes, or if the system shuts down automatically while the progress bar is displayed, the startup volume is corrupt and the drive is probably malfunctioning. In that case, go to Step 11. If you ever have another problem with the drive, replace it immediately.

    If you can start and log in in safe mode, empty the Trash, and then open the Finder Info window on the startup volume ("Macintosh HD," unless you gave it a different name.) Check that you have at least 9 GB of available space, as shown in the window. If you don't, copy as many files as necessary to another volume (not another folder on the same volume) and delete the originals. Deletion isn't complete until you empty the Trash again. Do this until the available space is more than 9 GB. Then restart as usual (i.e., not in safe mode.)

    If the startup process hangs again, the problem is likely caused by a third-party system modification that you installed. Post for further instructions.

    Step 8

    Launch Disk Utility in Recovery mode (see Step 1.) Select the startup volume, then run Repair Disk. If any problems are found, repeat until clear. If Disk Utility reports that the volume can't be repaired, the drive has malfunctioned and should be replaced. You might choose to tolerate one such malfunction in the life of the drive. In that case, erase the volume and restore from a backup. If the same thing ever happens again, replace the drive immediately.

    This is one of the rare situations in which you should also run Repair Permissions, ignoring the false warnings it may produce. Look for the line "Permissions repair complete" at the end of the output. Then restart as usual.

    Step 9

    If the startup device is an aftermarket SSD, it may need a firmware update and/or a forced "garbage collection." Instructions for doing this with a Crucial-branded SSD were posted here. Some of those instructions may apply to other brands of SSD, but you should check with the vendor's tech support.  

    Step 10

    Reinstall the OS. If the Mac was upgraded from an older version of OS X, you’ll need the Apple ID and password you used to upgrade.

    Step 11

    Do as in Step 9, but this time erase the startup volume in Disk Utility before installing. The system should automatically restart into the Setup Assistant. Follow the prompts to transfer the data from a Time Machine or other backup.

    Step 12

    This step applies only to models that have a logic-board ("PRAM") battery: all Mac Pro's and some others (not current models.) Both desktop and portable Macs used to have such a battery. The logic-board battery, if there is one, is separate from the main battery of a portable. A dead logic-board battery can cause a startup failure. Typically the failure will be preceded by loss of the settings for the startup disk and system clock. See the user manual for replacement instructions. You may have to take the machine to a service provider to have the battery replaced.

    Step 13

    If you get this far, you're probably dealing with a hardware fault. Make a "Genius" appointment at an Apple Store, or go to another authorized service provider.

  • by KGBU,

    KGBU KGBU Aug 20, 2014 12:35 AM in response to Linc Davis
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    Aug 20, 2014 12:35 AM in response to Linc Davis

    With help of Apple Service solved it: for some reason reinstalling OS X WITHOUT FIRST DELETING HARRDISC did not work so after trying some of items above (including restarting twice etc) I deleted harddisc and then reinstalled OS X. Now everything works again. Only thing is that it still appears strange to me that iMac worked fine until this update and that erasing harddisc was necessary but apparently such things happen...

     

    @ all: Thanx for your support! 

  • by a brody,

    a brody a brody Aug 20, 2014 3:48 AM in response to KGBU
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    Aug 20, 2014 3:48 AM in response to KGBU

    Erasing the hard disk is generally only necessary if you install something that is incompatible or unnecessary for the operating system.   Do not download any optimizers, antivirus, or firewall software.

  • by KGBU,

    KGBU KGBU Aug 20, 2014 4:21 AM in response to a brody
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    Aug 20, 2014 4:21 AM in response to a brody

    That is an interesting remark as I did install Avast antivirus software for Mac as increasingly I seem to read comment that viruses apply appear/threaten Macs. Please advice: should I install antivirus or not?

  • by a brody,

    a brody a brody Aug 20, 2014 5:46 AM in response to KGBU
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    Aug 20, 2014 5:46 AM in response to KGBU

    No.

     

    What you should do is practice safe computing for the Mac:

     

    1. Do not open attachments of the file name .scpt, .sct, .script on Mac OS X.  .EXE attachments are harmless unless you run Windows on your Mac, and should be ignored.  .zip should usually be ignored, unless you can verify the person sending it to you is doing so from a Mac.

     

    2. Do not use peer2peer or torrent software.

     

    3. Do not download software when prompted by update screens except direct from manufacturer website, or the Apple Mac App Store.

     

    4. Popup and advertisements should be ignored.

     

    5. Read this tip if you have issues with slowing down: https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6921

  • by rkaufmann87,Solvedanswer

    rkaufmann87 rkaufmann87 Aug 20, 2014 5:57 AM in response to KGBU
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    Aug 20, 2014 5:57 AM in response to KGBU

    KGBU wrote:

     

    That is an interesting remark as I did install Avast antivirus software for Mac as increasingly I seem to read comment that viruses apply appear/threaten Macs. Please advice: should I install antivirus or not?

    In a word, NO do not install any antivirus apps or any "performance enhancing" apps, they are unnecessary and tend to create more problems than they solve.

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Aug 20, 2014 6:43 AM in response to KGBU
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    Aug 20, 2014 6:43 AM in response to KGBU

    I deleted harddisc and then reinstalled OS X

    That was Step 11.

  • by John Galt,

    John Galt John Galt Aug 20, 2014 8:07 AM in response to KGBU
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    Aug 20, 2014 8:07 AM in response to KGBU

    KGBU wrote:

     

    That is an interesting remark as I did install Avast antivirus software for Mac as increasingly I seem to read comment that viruses apply appear/threaten Macs.

     

    Use Avast's latest uninstaller, which will remove it completely.

     

    Please advice: should I install antivirus or not?

     

    You should not.

     

    There will always be threats to your information security associated with using any Internet - connected communications tool:

     

    1. You can mitigate those threats by following commonsense practices
    2. Delegating that responsibility to software is an ineffective defense
    3. Assuming that any product will protect you from those threats is a hazardous attitude that is likely to result in neglecting point #1 above.


    OS X already includes everything it needs to protect itself from viruses and malware. Keep it that way with software updates from Apple.

     

    A much better question is "how should I protect my Mac":


    • Never install any product that claims to "speed up", "clean up", "optimize", "boost" or "accelerate" your Mac; to "wash" it, or to make it "shiny". Those claims are absurd.
      • Such products are very aggressively marketed. They are all scams.
    • Never install pirated or "cracked" software, software obtained from dubious websites, or other questionable sources.
      • Illegally obtained software is almost certain to contain malware.
      • "Questionable sources" include but are not limited to spontaneously appearing web pages or popups, download hosting sites such as C net dot com, Softonic dot com, Soft pedia dot com, Download dot com, Mac Update dot com, or any other site whose revenue is primarily derived from junk product advertisements.
    • Don’t supply your password in response to a popup window requesting it, unless you know what it is and the reason your credentials are required.
    • Don’t open email attachments from email addresses that you do not recognize, or click links contained in an email:
      • Most of these are scams that direct you to fraudulent sites that attempt to convince you to disclose personal information.
      • Such "phishing" attempts are the 21st century equivalent of a social exploit that has existed since the dawn of civilization. Don’t fall for it.
      • Apple will never ask you to reveal personal information in an email. If you receive an unexpected email from Apple saying your account will be closed unless you take immediate action, just ignore it. If your iTunes or App Store account becomes disabled for valid reasons, you will know when you try to buy something or log in to this support site, and are unable to.
    • Don’t install browser extensions unless you understand their purpose. Go to the Safari menu > Preferences > Extensions. If you see any extensions that you do not recognize or understand, simply click the Uninstall button and they will be gone.
    • Don’t install Java unless you are certain that you need it:
      • Java, a non-Apple product, is a potential vector for malware. If you are required to use Java, be mindful of that possibility.
      • Java can be disabled in System Preferences.
      • Despite its name JavaScript is unrelated to Java. No malware can infect your Mac through JavaScript. It’s OK to leave it enabled.
    • Block browser popups: Safari menu > Preferences > Security > and check "Block popup windows":
      • Popup windows are useful and required for some websites, but popups have devolved to become a common means to deliver targeted advertising that you probably do not want.
      • Popups themselves cannot infect your Mac, but many contain resource-hungry code that will slow down Internet browsing.
      • If you ever see a popup indicating it detected registry errors, that your Mac is infected with some ick, or that you won some prize, it is 100% fraudulent. Ignore it.
    • Ignore hyperventilating popular media outlets that thrive by promoting fear and discord with entertainment products arrogantly presented as "news". Learn what real threats actually exist and how to arm yourself against them:
      • The most serious threat to your data security is phishing. To date, most of these attempts have been pathetic and are easily recognized, but that is likely to change in the future as criminals become more clever.
      • OS X viruses do not exist, but intentionally malicious or poorly written code, created by either nefarious or inept individuals, is nothing new.
      • Never install something without first knowing what it is, what it does, how it works, and how to get rid of it when you don’t want it any more.
      • If you elect to use "anti-virus" software, familiarize yourself with its limitations and potential to cause adverse effects, and apply the principle immediately preceding this one.
      • Most such utilities will only slow down and destabilize your Mac while they look for viruses that do not exist, conveying no benefit whatsoever - other than to make you "feel good" about security, when you should actually be exercising sound judgment, derived from accurate knowledge, based on verifiable facts.
    • Do install updates from Apple as they become available. No one knows more about Macs and how to protect them than the company that builds them.

     

    Summary: Use common sense and caution when you use your Mac, just like you would in any social context. There is no product, utility, or magic talisman that can protect you from all the evils of mankind.