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Q: Need More Ram?

My MacBook Pro has been running really slow and I only have 4GB of RAM. Will upgrading to 8 improve my speed?

 

Physical Memory: 4.0GB

Memory Used: 3.98GB

Virtual Memory 4.82GB

 

Thanks in advance!

MacBook Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9.4)

Posted on Aug 25, 2014 4:10 PM

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Q: Need More Ram?

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  • by Kappy,

    Kappy Kappy Aug 25, 2014 4:14 PM in response to sdugan36
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    Aug 25, 2014 4:14 PM in response to sdugan36

    About OS X Memory Management and Usage

     

    Using Activity Monitor to read System Memory & determine how much RAM is used

    OS X Mavericks- About Activity Monitor

     

    Understanding top output in the Terminal

     

    The amount of available RAM for applications is the sum of Free RAM and Inactive RAM. This will change as applications are opened and closed or change from active to inactive status. The Swap figure represents an estimate of the total amount of swap space required for VM if used, but does not necessarily indicate the actual size of the existing swap file. If you are really in need of more RAM that would be indicated by how frequently the system uses VM. If you open the Terminal and run the top command at the prompt you will find information reported on Pageins () and Pageouts (). Pageouts () is the important figure. If the value in the parentheses is 0 (zero) then OS X is not making instantaneous use of VM which means you have adequate physical RAM for the system with the applications you have loaded. If the figure in parentheses is running positive and your hard drive is constantly being used (thrashing) then you need more physical RAM.

     

    Adding RAM only makes it possible to run more programs concurrently.  It doesn't speed up the computer nor make games run faster.  What it can do is prevent the system from having to use disk-based VM when it runs out of RAM because you are trying to run too many applications concurrently or using applications that are extremely RAM dependent.  It will improve the performance of applications that run mostly in RAM or when loading programs.

     

    Without more information your question cannot be answered. So, I would suggest your download and install EtreCheck 1.9.15, run it on your computer as it would be under your normal usage, then post those results here.

  • by sdugan36,

    sdugan36 sdugan36 Aug 25, 2014 6:17 PM in response to sdugan36
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    Aug 25, 2014 6:17 PM in response to sdugan36

    Thank you

     

    Is there a report a can run without buying a 3rd party app?

  • by Kappy,

    Kappy Kappy Aug 25, 2014 6:31 PM in response to sdugan36
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    Aug 25, 2014 6:31 PM in response to sdugan36

    The app is free.

  • by sdugan36,

    sdugan36 sdugan36 Aug 25, 2014 6:39 PM in response to Kappy
    Level 1 (0 points)
    Aug 25, 2014 6:39 PM in response to Kappy

    Sorry Kappy for some reason I thought it said $19.99???

     

    EtreCheck version: 1.9.15 (52)

    Report generated August 25, 2014 at 9:34:49 PM EDT

     

    Hardware Information: ?

      MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2010) (Verified)

      MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro7,1

      1 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2 cores

      4 GB RAM

     

    Video Information: ?

      NVIDIA GeForce 320M - VRAM: 256 MB

      Color LCD 1280 x 800

     

    System Software: ?

      OS X 10.9.4 (13E28) - Uptime: 4 days 7:29:1

     

    Disk Information: ?

      Hitachi HTS545032B9SA02 disk0 : (320.07 GB)

      S.M.A.R.T. Status: Verified

      EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

      Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / [Startup]: 319.21 GB (126.73 GB free)

      Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

     

      MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-898 

     

    USB Information: ?

      Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

      Apple Internal Memory Card Reader

      Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub

      Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

      Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

      Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

     

    Gatekeeper: ?

      Mac App Store and identified developers

     

    Kernel Extensions: ?

      [not loaded] com.leapfrog.codeless.kext (2) Support

      [not loaded] com.leapfrog.driver.LfConnectDriver (1.8.0 - SDK 10.7) Support

     

    Launch Daemons: ?

      [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist Support

      [not loaded] com.leapfrog.connect.shell.plist Support

     

    Launch Agents: ?

      [running] com.Affinegy.InstaLANa.plist Support

      [running] com.hp.devicemonitor.plist Support

      [loaded] com.hp.messagecenter.launcher.plist Support

      [loaded] com.lexmark.bmspecificlaunchd.plist Support

      [loaded] com.lexmark.lxknetlaunchd.plist Support

     

    User Launch Agents: ?

      [running] com.akamai.single-user-client.plist Support

      [failed] com.apple.CSConfigDotMacCert-[...]@me.com-SharedServices.Agent.plist

      [running] com.genieo.completer.download.plist Support

      [loaded] com.genieo.completer.update.plist Support

      [loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist Support

      [loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.helperTool.plist Support

      [loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.trashSizeWatcher.plist Support

      [loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.volumeWatcher.plist Support

     

    User Login Items: ?

      Skype

      FaceTab

     

    Internet Plug-ins: ?

      FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 14.0.0.145 - SDK 10.6 Support

      QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

      Flash Player: Version: 14.0.0.145 - SDK 10.6 Outdated! Update

      CouponPrinter-FireFox_v2: Version: Version 1.1.7 - SDK 10.5 Support

      Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9

      OfficeLiveBrowserPlugin: Version: 12.3.5 Support

      Silverlight: Version: 4.0.60531.0 Support

      iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0

     

    Safari Extensions: ?

      Omnibar

     

    Audio Plug-ins: ?

      BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.9

      AirPlay: Version: 2.0 - SDK 10.9

      AppleAVBAudio: Version: 203.2 - SDK 10.9

      iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.9

     

    iTunes Plug-ins: ?

      Quartz Composer Visualizer: Version: 1.4 - SDK 10.9

     

    User Internet Plug-ins ?

      Unity Web Player: Version: UnityPlayer version 2.6.1f3 Support

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes: ?

      Akamai NetSession Preferences  Support

      Flash Player  Support

      Growl  Support

     

    Time Machine: ?

      Skip System Files: NO

      Auto backup: YES

      Volumes being backed up:

      Macintosh HD: Disk size: 297.29 GB Disk used: 179.26 GB

      Destinations:

      My Passport [Local] (Last used)

      Total size: 0 B

      Total number of backups: (null)

      Size of backup disk: Too small

      Backup size 0 B < (Disk used 179.26 GB X 3)

      Time Machine details may not be accurate.

      All volumes being backed up may not be listed.

     

    Top Processes by CPU: ?

          64% Installer

          3% WindowServer

          2% iPhoto

          1% Activity Monitor

          0% sysmond

     

    Top Processes by Memory: ?

      624 MB Installer

      44 MB MenuTab for Facebook

      43 MB iPhoto

      20 MB WindowServer

      17 MB Activity Monitor

     

    Virtual Memory Information: ?

      11 MB Free RAM

      592 MB Active RAM

      585 MB Inactive RAM

      549 MB Wired RAM

      1.51 GB Page-ins

      96 MB Page-outs

  • by Kappy,

    Kappy Kappy Aug 25, 2014 6:46 PM in response to sdugan36
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    Desktops
    Aug 25, 2014 6:46 PM in response to sdugan36

    OK. You need to do this ASAP:

     

    Remove Genieo: Adware Removal Guide - Genieo

    Remove CleanMyMac: use the uninstaller or see Tom Reed's Mac Malware Guide.

     

    You then have this, 624 MB Installer, running. I have no idea what it is but you need to quit it. There's no reason for an installer to be running except if it is installing software. Then it should quit. Right now it is eating up 624MB of memory and is overloading the CPU.

     

    So, if you need help uninstalling the software see:

     

    Uninstalling Software: The Basics

     

    Most OS X applications are completely self-contained "packages" that can be uninstalled by simply dragging the application to the Trash.  Applications may create preference files that are stored in the /Home/Library/Preferences/ folder.  Although they do nothing once you delete the associated application, they do take up some disk space.  If you want you can look for them in the above location and delete them, too.

     

    Some applications may install an uninstaller program that can be used to remove the application.  In some cases the uninstaller may be part of the application's installer, and is invoked by clicking on a Customize button that will appear during the install process.

     

    Some applications may install components in the /Home/Library/Applications Support/ folder.  You can also check there to see if the application has created a folder.  You can also delete the folder that's in the Applications Support folder.  Again, they don't do anything but take up disk space once the application is trashed.

     

    Some applications may install a startupitem or a Log In item.  Startupitems are usually installed in the /Library/StartupItems/ folder and less often in the /Home/Library/StartupItems/ folder.  Log In Items are set in the Accounts preferences.  Open System Preferences, click on the Accounts icon, then click on the LogIn Items tab.  Locate the item in the list for the application you want to remove and click on the "-" button to delete it from the list.

     

    Some software use startup daemons or agents that are a new feature of the OS.  Look for them in /Library/LaunchAgents/ and /Library/LaunchDaemons/ or in /Home/Library/LaunchAgents/.

     

    If an application installs any other files the best way to track them down is to do a Finder search using the application name or the developer name as the search term.  Unfortunately Spotlight will not look in certain folders by default.  You can modify Spotlight's behavior or use a third-party search utility, EasyFind, instead.

     

    Some applications install a receipt in the /Library/Receipts/ folder.  Usually with the same name as the program or the developer.  The item generally has a ".pkg" extension.  Be sure you also delete this item as some programs use it to determine if it's already installed.

     

    There are many utilities that can uninstall applications.  Here is a selection:

     

        1. AppZapper

        2. AppDelete

        3. Automaton

        4. Hazel

        5. AppCleaner

        6. CleanApp

        7. iTrash

        8. Amnesia

        9. Uninstaller

      10. Spring Cleaning

     

    For more information visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQ on removing software.

     

    For malware read:

     

    Helpful Links Regarding Malware Problems

     

    If you are having an immediate problem with ads popping up see The Safe Mac » Adware Removal Guide and The Safe Mac » Adware Removal Tool. Open Safari, select Preferences from the Safari menu. Click on Extensions icon in the toolbar. Disable all Extensions. If this stops your problem, then re-enable them one by one until the problem returns. Now remove that extension as it is causing the problem.

     

    An excellent link to read is Tom Reed's Mac Malware Guide.

    Also, visit The XLab FAQs and read Detecting and avoiding malware and spyware.

    See these Apple articles:

     

      Mac OS X Snow Leopard and malware detection

      OS X Lion- Protect your Mac from malware

      OS X Mountain Lion- Protect your Mac from malware

      OS X Mavericks- Protect your Mac from malware

      About file quarantine in OS X

     

    If you require anti-virus protection Thomas Reed recommends using ClamXAV. (Thank you to Thomas Reed for this recommendation.)

     

    From user Joe Bailey comes this equally useful advice:

     

    The facts are:

     

    1. There is no anti-malware software that can detect 100% of the malware out there.

    2. There is no anti-malware that can detect anything targeting the Mac because there

         is no Mac malware in the wild, and therefore, no "signatures" to detect.

    3. The very best way to prevent the most attacks is for you as the user to be aware that

         the most successful malware attacks rely on very sophisticated social engineering

         techniques preying on human avarice, ****, and fear.

    4. Internet popups saying the FBI, NSA, Microsoft, your ISP has detected malware on

        your computer is intended to entice you to install their malware thinking it is a

        protection against malware.

    5. Some of the anti-malware products on the market are worse than the malware

        from which they purport to protect you.

    6. Be cautious where you go on the internet.

    7. Only download anything from sites you know are safe.

    8. Avoid links you receive in email, always be suspicious even if you get something

        you think is from a friend, but you were not expecting.

    9. If there is any question in your mind, then assume it is malware.

  • by sdugan36,

    sdugan36 sdugan36 Aug 25, 2014 6:51 PM in response to Kappy
    Level 1 (0 points)
    Aug 25, 2014 6:51 PM in response to Kappy

    Ill try it now.

     

    Thanks for your time Kappy, its greatly appreciated!

  • by MadMacs0,

    MadMacs0 MadMacs0 Aug 25, 2014 9:13 PM in response to sdugan36
    Level 5 (4,801 points)
    Aug 25, 2014 9:13 PM in response to sdugan36

    You have a bunch of additional issues that are probably less important, but after you've done all that, re-run EtreCheck and we can go from there.

  • by sdugan36,

    sdugan36 sdugan36 Aug 27, 2014 9:09 AM in response to MadMacs0
    Level 1 (0 points)
    Aug 27, 2014 9:09 AM in response to MadMacs0

    Seems a little better but still really slow on starting and opening apps.


    EtreCheck version: 1.9.15 (52)

    Report generated August 27, 2014 at 11:57:46 AM EDT

     

    Hardware Information: ?

      MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2010) (Verified)

      MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro7,1

      1 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2 cores

      4 GB RAM

     

    Video Information: ?

      NVIDIA GeForce 320M - VRAM: 256 MB

      Color LCD 1280 x 800

     

    System Software: ?

      OS X 10.9.4 (13E28) - Uptime: 0 days 2:30:15

     

    Disk Information: ?

      Hitachi HTS545032B9SA02 disk0 : (320.07 GB)

      S.M.A.R.T. Status: Verified

      EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

      Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / [Startup]: 319.21 GB (127.65 GB free)

      Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

     

      MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-898 

     

    USB Information: ?

      Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

      Apple Internal Memory Card Reader

      Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub

      Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

      Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

      Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

     

    Gatekeeper: ?

      Mac App Store and identified developers

     

    Kernel Extensions: ?

      [not loaded] com.leapfrog.codeless.kext (2) Support

      [not loaded] com.leapfrog.driver.LfConnectDriver (1.8.0 - SDK 10.7) Support

     

    Launch Daemons: ?

      [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist Support

      [not loaded] com.leapfrog.connect.shell.plist Support

     

    Launch Agents: ?

      [running] com.Affinegy.InstaLANa.plist Support

      [running] com.hp.devicemonitor.plist Support

      [loaded] com.hp.messagecenter.launcher.plist Support

      [loaded] com.lexmark.bmspecificlaunchd.plist Support

      [loaded] com.lexmark.lxknetlaunchd.plist Support

     

    User Launch Agents: ?

      [running] com.akamai.single-user-client.plist Support

      [failed] com.apple.CSConfigDotMacCert-[...]@me.com-SharedServices.Agent.plist

      [loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist Support

      [loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.helperTool.plist Support

      [loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.trashSizeWatcher.plist Support

      [loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.volumeWatcher.plist Support

     

    User Login Items: ?

      Skype

      FaceTab

     

    Internet Plug-ins: ?

      FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 14.0.0.145 - SDK 10.6 Support

      QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

      Flash Player: Version: 14.0.0.145 - SDK 10.6 Outdated! Update

      CouponPrinter-FireFox_v2: Version: Version 1.1.7 - SDK 10.5 Support

      Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9

      OfficeLiveBrowserPlugin: Version: 12.3.5 Support

      Silverlight: Version: 4.0.60531.0 Support

      iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0

     

    Safari Extensions: ?

      Omnibar

     

    Audio Plug-ins: ?

      BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.9

      AirPlay: Version: 2.0 - SDK 10.9

      AppleAVBAudio: Version: 203.2 - SDK 10.9

      iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.9

     

    iTunes Plug-ins: ?

      Quartz Composer Visualizer: Version: 1.4 - SDK 10.9

     

    User Internet Plug-ins ?

      Unity Web Player: Version: UnityPlayer version 2.6.1f3 Support

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes: ?

      Akamai NetSession Preferences  Support

      Flash Player  Support

      Growl  Support

     

    Time Machine: ?

      Skip System Files: NO

      Auto backup: YES

      Volumes being backed up:

      Macintosh HD: Disk size: 297.29 GB Disk used: 178.41 GB

      Destinations:

      My Passport [Local] (Last used)

      Total size: 0 B

      Total number of backups: (null)

      Size of backup disk: Too small

      Backup size 0 B < (Disk used 178.41 GB X 3)

      Time Machine details may not be accurate.

      All volumes being backed up may not be listed.

     

    Top Processes by CPU: ?

          4% WindowServer

          0% fontd

          0% netsession_mac

          0% aosnotifyd

     

    Top Processes by Memory: ?

      156 MB mds_stores

      106 MB com.apple.IconServicesAgent

      74 MB MenuTab for Facebook

      57 MB Safari

      41 MB Dock

     

    Virtual Memory Information: ?

      1.80 GB Free RAM

      1.32 GB Active RAM

      137 MB Inactive RAM

      507 MB Wired RAM

      301 MB Page-ins

      0 B Page-outs

  • by MadMacs0,

    MadMacs0 MadMacs0 Aug 27, 2014 10:18 AM in response to sdugan36
    Level 5 (4,801 points)
    Aug 27, 2014 10:18 AM in response to sdugan36

    It doesn't appear that you did either of the things Kappy suggested.

     

    Run the Adware Removal Tool to get rid of Genieo (including the Omnibar Safari Extension) and see How to Uninstall CleanMyMac 2?

  • by sdugan36,

    sdugan36 sdugan36 Aug 27, 2014 11:11 AM in response to MadMacs0
    Level 1 (0 points)
    Aug 27, 2014 11:11 AM in response to MadMacs0

    Sorry I must have copied an old report.

    I removed Genieo and CleanMy Mac, for some reason it still shows the 3 Clean my Mac files?

     

    EtreCheck version: 1.9.15 (52)

    Report generated August 27, 2014 at 2:03:49 PM EDT

     

    Hardware Information: ?

      MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2010) (Verified)

      MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro7,1

      1 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2 cores

      4 GB RAM

     

    Video Information: ?

      NVIDIA GeForce 320M - VRAM: 256 MB

      Color LCD 1280 x 800

     

    System Software: ?

      OS X 10.9.4 (13E28) - Uptime: 0 days 4:36:28

     

    Disk Information: ?

      Hitachi HTS545032B9SA02 disk0 : (320.07 GB)

      S.M.A.R.T. Status: Verified

      EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

      Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / [Startup]: 319.21 GB (127.57 GB free)

      Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

     

      MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-898 

     

    USB Information: ?

      Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

      Apple Internal Memory Card Reader

      Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub

      Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

      Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

      Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

     

    Gatekeeper: ?

      Mac App Store and identified developers

     

    Kernel Extensions: ?

      [not loaded] com.leapfrog.codeless.kext (2) Support

      [not loaded] com.leapfrog.driver.LfConnectDriver (1.8.0 - SDK 10.7) Support

     

    Launch Daemons: ?

      [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist Support

      [not loaded] com.leapfrog.connect.shell.plist Support

     

    Launch Agents: ?

      [running] com.Affinegy.InstaLANa.plist Support

      [running] com.hp.devicemonitor.plist Support

      [loaded] com.hp.messagecenter.launcher.plist Support

      [loaded] com.lexmark.bmspecificlaunchd.plist Support

      [loaded] com.lexmark.lxknetlaunchd.plist Support

     

    User Launch Agents: ?

      [running] com.akamai.single-user-client.plist Support

      [failed] com.apple.CSConfigDotMacCert-[...]@me.com-SharedServices.Agent.plist

      [loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist Support

      [loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.helperTool.plist Support

      [loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.trashSizeWatcher.plist Support

      [loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.volumeWatcher.plist Support

     

    User Login Items: ?

      Skype

      FaceTab

     

    Internet Plug-ins: ?

      FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 14.0.0.145 - SDK 10.6 Support

      QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

      Flash Player: Version: 14.0.0.145 - SDK 10.6 Outdated! Update

      CouponPrinter-FireFox_v2: Version: Version 1.1.7 - SDK 10.5 Support

      Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9

      OfficeLiveBrowserPlugin: Version: 12.3.5 Support

      Silverlight: Version: 4.0.60531.0 Support

      iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0

     

    Safari Extensions: ?

      Omnibar

     

    Audio Plug-ins: ?

      BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.9

      AirPlay: Version: 2.0 - SDK 10.9

      AppleAVBAudio: Version: 203.2 - SDK 10.9

      iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.9

     

    iTunes Plug-ins: ?

      Quartz Composer Visualizer: Version: 1.4 - SDK 10.9

     

    User Internet Plug-ins ?

      Unity Web Player: Version: UnityPlayer version 2.6.1f3 Support

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes: ?

      Akamai NetSession Preferences  Support

      Flash Player  Support

      Growl  Support

     

    Time Machine: ?

      Skip System Files: NO

      Auto backup: YES

      Volumes being backed up:

      Macintosh HD: Disk size: 297.29 GB Disk used: 178.48 GB

      Destinations:

      My Passport [Local] (Last used)

      Total size: 0 B

      Total number of backups: (null)

      Size of backup disk: Too small

      Backup size 0 B < (Disk used 178.48 GB X 3)

      Time Machine details may not be accurate.

      All volumes being backed up may not be listed.

     

    Top Processes by CPU: ?

          5% WindowServer

          0% MenuTab for Facebook

          0% fontd

          0% Safari

          0% netsession_mac

     

    Top Processes by Memory: ?

      160 MB com.apple.IconServicesAgent

      156 MB mds_stores

      111 MB MenuTab for Facebook

      94 MB Finder

      53 MB WindowServer

     

    Virtual Memory Information: ?

      1.44 GB Free RAM

      1.47 GB Active RAM

      335 MB Inactive RAM

      527 MB Wired RAM

      400 MB Page-ins

      0 B Page-outs

  • by MadMacs0,

    MadMacs0 MadMacs0 Aug 27, 2014 9:23 PM in response to sdugan36
    Level 5 (4,801 points)
    Aug 27, 2014 9:23 PM in response to sdugan36

    sdugan36 wrote:

     

    Sorry I must have copied an old report.

    I removed Genieo and CleanMy Mac, for some reason it still shows the 3 Clean my Mac files?

    Then you could not have followed the instructions given to you in the links Kappy and I gave you, otherwise those 3 files and the OmniBar Safari extension would no longer be there. It would appear that you just trashed those applications rather than run the uninstallers we gave you. That's not the correct way to remove installed software.