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Migration Assistant doesn't recognize Time Machine on External HDD

Hello All,


Using Migration Assistant, I'm trying to transfer back-up files (whole system) from my Western Digital, External HDD to a new-to-me iMac which I've just purchased used. The External HDD has all my files (hopefully!) from my recently stolen iMac. As you can imagine, the circumstances are a bit unexpected and unsettling. I'm hoping to be able to recover documents, photo files and email that are important to my work.


I've followed Apple's instructions for using MA with an external drive, but get hung up like others before me when it comes time for my new (used) computer to locate the disc from which to transfer the files. I've read the replies to others who have posted with similar difficulties using Snow Leopard, but resolving the issue seems to be just out of reach.


Mr. Pondini's generous faqs are much appreciated, but sadly his articles are now linked to iCloud, and for the life of me I haven't been able to find them there in the ether (: 0


Having read most everything on this support site that seems relevant, please forgive me if the info I need is staring me in the face. Here are the tech notes that may be of help to resolve this:


Original computer is now unavailable (stolen); it last ran on Snow Leopard, 10.6.3 to 6.8

New computer is used, and also runs on 10.6.8.

Both computers are iMac 2009, tho slightly different versions, if that has any bearing on things.


I created a temporary account on my new-to-me computer to make the data transfer, so that there wouldn't be an accounts conflict, as others have suggested.


Western Digital External HDD, "My Book, Studio Edition," 1TB. I'm using the FireWire 800 port on the iMac.


I'm hoping there's a way to use MA, or, if that fails, perhaps start from scratch with Set Up? Please advise as to which method would be most likely to succeed. If I need to erase the hard drive on my "new" computer, I'll need a little instruction and hand-holding on that one.


Many thanks!


dflow

iMac (24-inch Early 2009), Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Sep 1, 2014 6:54 PM

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Sep 1, 2014 8:05 PM in response to dflow

Western Digital external HD's have a very poor reputation on these forums, so don't be too surprised if there is a problem with the drive. You can plug it into our new iMac and open Finder to see if Finder see's the drive and if it can see the backups. If it cannot then you have a failed WD EHD. If it can see the drive and backups, then launch Migration Assistant, direct it to the EHD and attempt to migrate.

Sep 1, 2014 9:39 PM in response to dflow

Most likely, some folders were excluded from the backups as the result of a failed or aborted software installation.

Starting from a clean installation of OS X, set up a new administrator account and log in. Enter Time Machine and press the key combination shift-command-C. The front window will show all mounted volumes. All snapshots should now be accessible.* Select the one you want and navigate to your home folder (in the Users folder at the top level of the old startup volume.)

You should now be able to restore your user data. I suggest you do this in two stages. Quit all applications except the Finder before you begin.

  1. Restore all the visible items at the top level of the home folder.
  2. Hold down the option key and select Go Library from the Finder menu bar. Enter Time Machine and restore all items in the Library folder. Log out and log back in as soon as the restore is complete.

Any other invisible folders or files at the top level of the home folder that you want to preserve will have to be restored separately. For most users, that isn't necessary.

You'll have to reinstall all third-party applications from scratch, or restore them from another kind of backup, if you have one.

You'll have another problem because you erased the startup volume. The next time you back up, Time Machine won't recognize any files as being the same as they were before, and will make a full copy of all files. There might not be enough space on one or more of the backup volumes for that. There are different ways of dealing with that situation, depending on your needs. The easiest way is to set the backup drives aside, if possible, until you're sure you'll no longer need the data on them, then erase them and start over. Meanwhile start a new backup on one or more empty storage devices. If that solution isn't workable for you, ask for instructions.

*If you don't see any snapshots in Time Machine, exit the time-travel view and then hold down the option key while selecting

Browse Other Backup Disks...

from the Time Machine menu, which has an icon that looks like a clock running backwards. Select the backups of the computer by its previous name. If you don't have the Time Machine menu, open the Time Machine preference pane in System Preferences and check the box marked

Show Time Machine in menu bar

Sep 2, 2014 1:32 PM in response to Linc Davis

Dear Linc,


Thank you so much for your detailed reply. The good news is: I sensed something was odd with the external drive, so I unplugged it and reconnected the firewire cable to the port I had been using previously, and viola, my new-to-me computer recognized the drive. The backups appeared in the Finder window, so I proceeded with Migration Assistant, as one would normally.


The files seemed to have transferred as one would hope, but the bad news is: I don't have access to anything (yet) because of denied permission. I thought I was supposed to create a new user account and password with the new computer to avoid this problem ~ perhaps I misunderstood?


What do you suggest I do next to recover permission to access my files?


Thanks again!

Sep 2, 2014 1:55 PM in response to dflow

With a new computer, you should have used Setup Assistant, which starts automatically the first time you boot up, to transfer the data. Apparently you didn't do that. If you had already created a user with the same name as the one on the old system, you now have an extra account with the migrated data. Is that what happened?

Sep 2, 2014 2:29 PM in response to Linc Davis

The computer is used, and was set up by the person from whom I purchased it. He did a "clean install" to remove all previous files, etc. When I used the computer myself for the first time, Setup Assistant was not available to me, as the machine had already been booted-up by the seller.


I created a new, temporary account called "iMac" with a different password from the the account I had established with my previous computer. The account under my name, "davidwolf1," has the files I'd like to recover.


Here's a screenshot that will hopefully clarify the current situation. You can see the blocked folders under my account from the original, now lost, computer, as well as the temporary account, "iMac," which contains very little.


Thanks again for your help!


User uploaded file

Sep 2, 2014 2:39 PM in response to dflow

Before buying a second-hand computer, you should have run Apple Diagnostics or the Apple Hardware Test, whichever is applicable.

The first thing to do after buying the computer is to erase the internal drive and install a clean copy of OS X. You—not the original owner—must do that. Changes made by Apple over the years have made this seemingly straightforward task very complex.

How you go about it depends on the model, and on whether you already own another Mac. If you're not sure of the model, enter the serial number on this page. Then find the model on this page to see what OS version was originally installed.

It's unsafe, and may be unlawful, to use a computer with software installed by a previous owner.

1. If you don't own another Mac

a. If the machine shipped with OS X 10.4 or 10.5, you need a boxed and shrink-wrapped retail Snow Leopard (OS X 10.6) installation disc from the Apple Store or a reputable reseller—not from eBay or anything of the kind. If the machine is very old and has less than 1 GB of memory, you'll need to add more in order to install 10.6. Preferably, install as much memory as it can take, according to the technical specifications.

b. If the machine shipped with OS X 10.6, you need the installation media that came with it: gray installation discs, or a USB flash drive for a MacBook Air. You should have received the media from the original owner, but if you didn't, order replacements from Apple. A retail disc, or the gray discs from another model, will not work.

To start up from an optical disc or a flash drive, insert it, then restart the computer and hold down the C key at the startup chime. Release the key when you see the gray Apple logo on the screen.

c. If the machine shipped with OS X 10.7 or later, you don't need media. It should start up in Internet Recovery mode when you hold down the key combination option-command-R at the startup chime. Release the keys when you see a spinning globe.

d. Some 2010-2011 models shipped with OS X 10.6 and received a firmware update after 10.7 was released, enabling them to use Internet Recovery. If you have one of those models, you can't reinstall 10.6 even from the original media, and Internet Recovery will not work either without the original owner's Apple ID. In that case, contact Apple Support, or take the machine to an Apple Store or another authorized service provider to have the OS installed.

2. If you do own another Mac

If you already own another Mac that was upgraded in the App Store to the version of OS X that you want to install, and if the new Mac is compatible with it, then you can install it. Use Recovery Disk Assistant to prepare a USB device, then start up the new Mac from it by holding down the C key at the startup chime. Alternatively, if you have a Time Machine backup of OS X 10.7.3 or later on an external hard drive (not a Time Capsule or other network device), you can start from that by holding down the option key and selecting it from the row of icons that appears. Note that if your other Mac was never upgraded in the App Store, you can't use this method.

3. Partition and install OS X

a. If you see a lock screen when trying to start up from installation media or in Recovery mode, then a firmware password was set by the previous owner, or the machine was remotely locked via iCloud. You'll either have to contact the owner or take the machine to an Apple Store or another service provider to be unlocked. You may be asked for proof of ownership.

b. Launch Disk Utility and select the icon of the internal drive—not any of the volume icons nested beneath it. In the Partition tab, select the default options: a GUID partition table with one data volume in Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format. This operation will permanently remove all existing data on the drive.

c. An unusual problem may arise if all the following conditions apply:

OS X 10.7 or later was installed by the previous owner

The startup volume was encrypted with FileVault

You're booted in Recovery mode (that is, not from a 10.6 installation disc)

In that case, you won't be able to unlock the volume or partition the drive without the FileVault password. Ask for guidance or see this discussion.

d. After partitioning, quit Disk Utility and run the OS X Installer. If you're installing a version of OS X acquired from the App Store, you will need the Apple ID and password that you used. When the installation is done, the system will automatically restart into the Setup Assistant, which will prompt you to transfer the data from another Mac, its backups, or from a Windows computer. If you have any data to transfer, this is usually the best time to do it.

e. Run Software Update and install all available system updates from Apple. To upgrade to a major version of OS X newer than 10.6, get it from the Mac App Store. Note that you can't keep an upgraded version that was installed by the original owner. He or she can't legally transfer it to you, and without the Apple ID you won't be able to update it in Software Update or reinstall, if that becomes necessary. The same goes for any App Store products that the previous owner installed—you have to repurchase them.

4. Other issues

a. If the original owner "accepted" the bundled iLife applications (iPhoto, iMovie, and Garage Band) in the App Store so that he or she could update them, then they're irrevocably linked to that Apple ID and you won't be able to download them without buying them. Reportedly, Mac App Store Customer Service has sometimes issued redemption codes for these apps to second owners who asked.

b. If the previous owner didn't deauthorize the computer in the iTunes Store under his Apple ID, you wont be able to authorize it immediately under your ID. In that case, you'll either have to wait up to 90 days or contact iTunes Support.

c. When trying to create a new iCloud account, you might get a failure message: "Account limit reached." Apple imposes a lifetime limit of three iCloud account setups per device. Erasing the device does not reset the limit. You can still use an iCloud account that was created on another device, but you won't be able to create a new one. Contact iCloud Support for more information. The setup limit doesn't apply to Apple ID accounts used for other services, such as the iTunes and Mac App Stores, or iMessage. You can create as many of those accounts as you like.

Sep 2, 2014 4:08 PM in response to Linc Davis

I appreciate your suggestions as to erasing the internal drive and starting anew with a fresh install of Snow Leopard, so that I can get to SetUp Assistant to recover my files. I imagine you think this is the best route to follow.


I have Snow Leopard discs purchased from the Apple Store (10.6.3 by me, and 10.6.8 by the previous owner), as well as the gray startup disc that came with this computer, 10.5.6.


When I use Disc Utility to select the iMac's internal drive, the Volume Scheme, Format and Options appear to be grayed out, preventing me from proceeding. Note, "This partition is the Startup disc, it cannot be erased." This seems different from what we would have expected, unless I'm reading this incorrectly?


If a fresh OS install is, for some reason, too circuitous to do, would there be an alternative path to gain permission to the back-up files I've migrated to the computer?


Thank you!


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Migration Assistant doesn't recognize Time Machine on External HDD

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