I have gone to backup my photos onto an external drive but when clicking on the info of the picture the photos are reading the date they were saved rather than the original date they were taken (that is listed correctly on iPhoto). Why isn't the date stamp transferring & how do i get it to?
MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.5)
Well if you would have read my comment before I edited you would have known that I thought it was my photos and movies when I looked further I noticed it was only the movies. So I was on the right one or I would have started a new one.
If you look at it movies do have the date and time. What you do not understand is that people want to be able to keep the original dates on them when they move them and it is idiotic that Apple hasn't done this on their own. You also do not understand, "can not keep the date for movies without additional software" that is the point that there is no excuse for Apple not to do this. When you look for help with Apple products their is too many pages of third parties making money doing what Apple should have. Maybe you accept that kind of service but I have higher standards than that. The reason I went to Apple was to get away from third parties always messing up Windows computers and I don't want to go through the cost of doing it again. We invest a lot in Apple we should at least have reliable programs that do what the customer reasonably wants without limitations on simple things. When people are using movies in the same way as photos they should have already had a way to keep the dates on them. Please note that you are rude when you call what people say crazy when all I'm doing is expecting what should be. When I move files outside of iPhoto I don't have this problem and I don't think it used to.
To help you Jax9048 you have to export as original if you want the original date, time and size. What I will do to correct the movie problem and you can do this with photos is click on the movie in iPhoto, click file, click reveal in finder, and then copy it. Then I will move it where I want it and it keeps the date (have to do it outside and around of iPhoto because iPhoto and those who designed it didn't do it well enough). Do not change anything in the iPhoto library in finder it will ruin your iPhoto library. God bless.
Here's what I found out about iPhoto 9.5.1 and videos in a recent test:
1 - if one drags a video from the iPhoto window to the Desktop the file creation date is preserved.
2 - if one exports the video from iPhoto via File ➙ Export ➙ File Export menu option with Kind = Original the file creation date is changed to the current date.
This was determined by comparing the file creation date of the video file in the Masters folder with those created by methods 1 and 2 above.
Why, I don't know. It's just the nature of the beast.
but is there a way to find the original date stamp of a video so that it can be saved accordingly?
Select the video thumbnail and use the File ➙ Reveal in Finder ➙ Original menu option. That will take you to the original video file that was imported into the library. Control (right) - click on the file and select Show Info from the contextual menu. There you will see the original file created date.
I would like to add to this. Was going to ask the same question but mine is the movie files in iPhoto not photos.
This is very frustrating and before anyone answers please do not tell me to use third party software because this is what pay more for Apple. To do there is no excuse for not having this work flawlessly. No billion dollar company should need to rely on third parties to make up for their failure.
they do - the date is in the EXIF info inside of the photo and can be viewed using any photo program - check them with Preview and look at the EXIF dates
You are making a common mistake of confusing the photo with the file that holds the photo - the creation date of the file has no relation to the photo date
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Movies have NO EXIF data - this thread is about Photos, not about movies.
You can not keep the date for movies without additional software so your question can not be answered because of your restrictions
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No it is not - and you simply do not understand - movies have no inherent date - file dates have no relationship to the dates associated with the data in them
This thread is really clear even if you can not understand it
why arent my photos keeping their date stamp when copied to an external drive?
and Photo are different from movies even if you can not understand it
Photos do keep their date when exported form iPhoto even if you do not understand it
If you want to post crazy RANTS then do it some place else - this forum is NOT for RANTS - it is to help people who WANT to get help - which you also do not understand
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If you look at it movies do have the date and time.
No they don't.
Files have date and time. Files don't know if there's a movie in there or a novel or a song. A file is not your data. It's a box for your data, a container for the information inside. That Jpeg is not your photo. It's not even an image format, a jpeg is a compression format. To view your photo the Jpeg has to be decompressed. Your photo is within the Jpeg. The date and time of a photo is a feature of the photo, not the file. File dates change all the time as files are manipulated. Because of this, Exif metadata was invented. It's agreed by all the camera makers. So, regardless of the file date apps that are Exif aware can still read the correct date of the photo.
Movies do not have Exif metadata. There is no independent date recorded for the movie itself. There is simply no agreement among the vast array of movie device makers about this kind of metadata. This is not Apple's doing. They are just one of a vast number of makers, all using their own formats, all wrapped in containers like avi or mov. So that's not an excuse for Apple "not doing" anything. It's simply because it's not Apple's job to tell every movie maker how to do their business and the show no signs of agreeing anything.
The reason I went to Apple was to get away from third parties always messing up Windows computers and I don't want to go through the cost of doing it again.
Let me re-assure you. I have a large amount of third-party software on my machines and they mess nothing up. This is not Windows. There is no registery. While 3rd party conflicts are possible, they are nothing like as common as on Windows. Further, if you're limiting yourself to only Apple software you're not getting very much done. Apple makes a batch of good quality consumer software that's good for most things. They do not - nor would it be good if they did - make software that does all things. No one at Apple will tell you that Pages is as capable an app as Word. It's not. But ti does a lot of the basics very well. Nothing Apple make is as capable an image editor as Photoshop. That's why there's a Mac App Store, full of software by 3rd parties.
Or put another way, if you drive a Ford, why aren't you only putting Ford fuel in it, only using Ford spanners on it or putting Ford water in the Window Washer?
Was I blocked from replying to this? Wont let me post on it. Think the moderator replied and then blocked me so he can feel good about himself but he shouldn’t. The response I received on the last one was worse than the ones before them. That’s a very cowardly thing to do to make it so I cannot respond no integrity if he did that.
Most people would realize when I say the date and time on the movie I am talking about the file. No need to talk down to me and act like a jerk. What I am talking about is Apple having a way within their own programs to keep the date and time on the movie or file as you want say by trying to sound smart when you know what I’m really saying. There is nothing wrong with staying with one companies programs and I as the customer am saying I want Apple to do better for the consumer. This will help the company if they listen or fail the customer if they don’t and the company will not stay at the top as we know Mac has made that mistake before. I like pages and think it is as good as word.
Were I to drive a ford would I use only ford Gas. Maybe if the company Ford designed the car for a special formula of gas that benefits the use of the car where other companies gas usually messes it up I would just as I use the ford suggested brand of oil in the engine because some cars do need brand specific maintenance and parts the rest of your comment is childish and ridiculous and doesn’t need a response.
We see again you are okay with low standards and that is fine for you but not for me and not for other people too. I don’t know if you work for Apple or you all just do this to be nice but I think it has to be your job if you are going to defend the undefendable.
You really need to tone down the rhetoric and up the dosage of the paranoia pills.
Was I blocked from replying to this? Wont let me post on it. Think the moderator replied and then blocked me so he can feel good about himself but he shouldn’t.
Well quite obviously you weren't blocked as your post got through. You may have experienced a software glitch on the forum. But the moderators on here don't reply, if you are blocked for some reason - like a breach of the rules you agreed to - you will get an email explaining. Oh, and there are also female moderators on the forum.
The response I received on the last one was worse than the ones before them. That’s a very cowardly thing to do to make it so I cannot respond no integrity if he did that.
Well there was nothing cowardly, and we know as we can read your post.
Most people would realize when I say the date and time on the movie I am talking about the file.
And therein lies the problem. Most people, by your definition, don't understand how these things work.
No need to talk down to me and act like a jerk
If you react like that whenever some explains something to you, how will you ever learn?
What I am talking about is Apple having a way within their own programs to keep the date and time on the movie or file as you want say by trying to sound smart when you know what I’m really saying.
Here's the problem with Apple going their own way - what happens when you send or share the file to someone on another system? Remember, apart from the iDevices, Apple don't make the cameras that create these movies. How do you think they should deal with all the movies from Canon, Nikon, Sony, Samsung et al? I'm delighted you think I sound smart. It cheers me up. My teenagers think I'm dumb.
There is nothing wrong with staying with one companies programs and I as the customer am saying I want Apple to do better for the consumer.
But what do you do when the company doesn't make software that does what you want? Which, after all, is the problem here.
I like pages and think it is as good as word.
Which really means that Pages fits your needs. But it is objectively false to say that Pages has the same capabilities as Word. It doesn't.
Were I to drive a ford would I use only ford Gas.
But Ford don't make Gas. They don't make tyres. The don't make radios. So, you'll have a pretty Ford in your drive up on blocks - heck no, Ford don't make blocks either...
I don’t know if you work for Apple or you all just do this to be nice but I think it has to be your job if you are going to defend the undefendable.
No one here works for apple. This forum is users speaking to other users. I do this to be nice, but when dealing with the paranoid I can make exceptions.
For the benefit of those who may read the thread later. No software does everything. iPhoto is $15 app that's pretty capable. There are other more expensive apps in this area - Aperture is $80, Adobe's Lightroom is about $150. They don't manage the date on movie files either. I wonder why?
It actually is very very simple - NickolasLP threadjacked a thread about a totally different problem nd he simply does not understand the answer to hius question which is very simple - Movies do not have date information in them like photos do.
They also do not understand the different between a file that holds a photo (or movie) and the photo (or movie) its self - two totally different things with totally different metadata
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Oh and NickolasLP loves to argue about thing they do not understand - and really bad trait
NickolasLP wrote:
Well if you would have read my comment before I edited
Well, if I would have picked the correct numbers in the lotto, I would have a few million $$ to toss around...
However, only your edited post is shown so what you posted previously is irrelevant (like I didn't pick the correct numbers so I don't have a few million $$ to toss around)..
Thank you this was helpful, of course I had to look up how to find the darn EXIF info under tools & then show inspector. Why do they make it so difficult to find when the photo was created? Thank you for the clarification that it is only a file that holds the picture rather than just the picture. So I get that it is a file created but I don't care the date of That file, only the date that my picture was taken, so why don't picture files save with the date they were taken??
iPhoto does a good job of showing the date the picture was taken but I am moving my photos to an external drive & was hoping there was an easier way to look at dates instead of such a time consuming process. I am also looking at d/cing using the iphoto program due to issues, are you aware if the Image Capture program will show the dates the photos were taken easier? Or perhaps can recommend another program?
Also, since the issue was brought up on this thread (and I'm sure since I am not techy at all I would have come back with the same question), but is there a way to find the original date stamp of a video so that it can be saved accordingly? Thanks again to everyone for your responses:)
Any reasonable photos manager will use the EXIF date - Image Capture is not a photo manager - it is a program to bring images onto your Mac (to "capture" images) - it keeps the EXIF data that is there - I frankly do not know if it will display it or not - Preview will display it and will nearly all photo programs that are design dot view and or edit photos
As to why the differences - simple - when the file is created is a fact and the file reflects that fact - when the photo is shot is also a fact and the EXIF data reflects that fact - the two have nothing to do with each other - there are I believe third party packages that will modify the file metadate to match the photo metadata - I have never used one and can not speak to their safety or effectiveness
Videos are totally different as they have no EXIF data - Old Toad posted that in test if you drag a video form iPhoto to the desktop it keeps the date - if you export ti it does not - experiment with this
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So I get that it is a file created but I don't care the date of That file, only the date that my picture was taken, so why don't picture files save with the date they were taken??
Because you can have many edited versions of a photo. The file date will tell you when you created the file, and you will be able to recognise the most recently edited version of the photo. The creation date of a file is important for syncing files and other file management tasks. The EXIF will you when the photo has been taken.
why arent my photos keeping their date stamp when copied to an external drive?
