jon.schneider
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Q: "No bootable device --- insert boot disk and press any key" after setting up Bootcamp

Hi guys,

 

I am trying to install Windows 7 via Bootcamp but after setting up Bootcamp and restarting the computer I get the error message "No bootable device --- insert boot disk and press any key".

I use an iMac with a DIY Fusion Drive consisting of a 120 GB SSD and a 1 TB HDD.

 

Since Bootcamp can only be installed on the HDD I believe disk1 is the interesting one. Here is the output of sudo gpt -r -vv show disk1:

gpt show: disk1: mediasize=1000204886016; sectorsize=512; blocks=1953525168

gpt show: disk1: Suspicious MBR at sector 0

gpt show: disk1: Pri GPT at sector 1

gpt show: disk1: Sec GPT at sector 1953525167

       start        size  index  contents

           0           1         MBR

           1           1         Pri GPT header

           2          32         Pri GPT table

          34           6        

          40      409600      1  GPT part - C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B

      409640  1709658208      2  GPT part - 53746F72-6167-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

  1710067848     1269536      3  GPT part - 426F6F74-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

  1711337384          88        

  1711337472   242186240      4  GPT part - EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7

  1953523712        1423        

  1953525135          32         Sec GPT table

  1953525167           1         Sec GPT header

 

And the output of sudo fdisk /dev/disk1:

 

Disk: /dev/disk1geometry: 121601/255/63 [1953525168 sectors]

Signature: 0xAA55

         Starting       Ending

#: id  cyl  hd sec -  cyl  hd sec [     start -       size]

------------------------------------------------------------------------

1: EE    0   0   2 -   25 127  14 [         1 -     409639] <Unknown ID>

2: AF   25 127  15 - 1023 254  63 [    409640 - 1709658208] HFS+       

*3: 07 1023 254  63 - 1023 254  63 [1711337472 -  242186240] HPFS/QNX/AUX

4: 00    0   0   0 -    0   0   0 [         0 -          0] unused

 

Here is also the list of my disks:

 

/dev/disk0

   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *120.0 GB   disk0

   1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk0s1

   2:          Apple_CoreStorage                         119.7 GB   disk0s2

   3:                 Apple_Boot Boot OS X               134.2 MB   disk0s3

/dev/disk1

   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *1.0 TB     disk1

   1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk1s1

   2:          Apple_CoreStorage                         875.3 GB   disk1s2

   3:                 Apple_Boot Recovery HD             650.0 MB   disk1s3

   4:       Microsoft Basic Data BOOTCAMP                124.0 GB   disk1s4

/dev/disk2

   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

   0:                  Apple_HFS FusionDrive            *975.5 GB   disk2

                                 Logical Volume on disk0s2, disk1s2

                                 FFA13FBC-2001-40B7-8BBB-BE6EECF8AC11

                                 Unencrypted Fusion Drive

/dev/disk3

   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

   0:                            GRMCPRXFRER_DE_DVD     *3.2 GB     disk3

 

I have gdisk installed and am ready to mess around. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

iMac (27-inch Mid 2010), Other OS

Posted on Sep 6, 2014 7:06 AM

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Q: "No bootable device --- insert boot disk and press any key" after setting up Bootcamp

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  • by Mazzerac,

    Mazzerac Mazzerac Sep 15, 2014 10:00 PM in response to Mazzerac
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    Sep 15, 2014 10:00 PM in response to Mazzerac

    Just discovered something, a discrepancy. After studying your screenshot more closely, I noticed a few differences with my copy of the files on my USB drive.

     

    First, under efi, the folder called 'boot' is missing. Also an added file, called memtest.efi, is right above memtest.exe. Also, a folder called 'upgrade' is at the very bottom of the list. Inside it is another folder called 'netfx' and inside that are files called netfx.msi, netfx.msp, netfx1.cab, and netfxupdate.exe. No idea what they're for. Finally, in the stand-alone folder called 'boot,' I'm missing the folder called 'resources.' Everything else seems to be the same, however.

     

    The efi-related folder called 'boot' naturally alarms me the most, of course. As is the missing 'resources' folder inside the stand-alone 'boot' folder. Is Bootcamp not saving all the files properly on the USB drive??? (Or is your version of Bootcamp simply a different version than mine???)

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Sep 16, 2014 2:00 AM in response to Mazzerac
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    Sep 16, 2014 2:00 AM in response to Mazzerac

    Mazzerac wrote:

     

    Is Bootcamp not saving all the files properly on the USB drive??? (Or is your version of Bootcamp simply a different version than mine???)

    I have two versions, W7 and W8.1. Let me rebuild the USB and try to post a listing. Windows disks do have tendency to be "unique" at times.

  • by jon.schneider,

    jon.schneider jon.schneider Sep 16, 2014 8:19 AM in response to Loner T
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    Sep 16, 2014 8:19 AM in response to Loner T

    Okay, I got Windows installed on the MBP. Within the installation I could format the drive to NTFS like you said. I am now wondering if I could start the iMac in Target Disk Mode and format the drive from the MBP and then see if the iMac lets me boot from the DVD. Although I still think the problem is that the iMac refuses to boot from the external optical drive and not the partition being formatted a wrong way.

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Sep 16, 2014 8:49 AM in response to jon.schneider
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    Sep 16, 2014 8:49 AM in response to jon.schneider

    You need Windows to format the NTFS partition on the iMac. If you switch the iMac to Target disk mode, you may not be able to see the iMac drive in Windows on MBP while running Windows.

     

    You may be able to see the drive on the OSX side, but OSX on the MBP cannot format a drive to NTFS, unless you use a third-party NTFS engine (like Paragon, Tuxera) which needs to support external disks which are visible in Target Disk mode from the iMac.

     

    There is a Macports version of NTFS-3g (without a UI) that can be installed on the OSX side. It is free and can format the iMac volume to NTFS, but you will have to use a cli command.

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Sep 16, 2014 9:52 AM in response to jon.schneider
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    Sep 16, 2014 9:52 AM in response to jon.schneider

    Just ran a test.

     

    1. Machine 1 - 15" rMBP 10.9.4/Bootcamp W7.

    2. Machine 2 - 13" 2012 MBP 10.10/W8.1.

     

    Machine 2 in Target Disk Mode.

     

    1. Machine 1 running W7 connected to Machine 2  via TB-to-FW + FW800 cable. Machine 2 can ONLY see it's OSX partition, but not the TDM disk.

     

    IMG_1164.png

     

    IMG_1165.JPG

     

    2. Machine 1 in OSX can see the TDM disk and the two partitions OSX and Bootcamp on Machine 2. But there is no format capability in OSX to change FAT to NTFS. . You will need Machine 1 (your equivalent) to run a R/W NTFS driver (Tuxera, Paragon) AND it should support TDM.

     

    Bootcamp-on-FW-OSX.png

  • by jon.schneider,

    jon.schneider jon.schneider Sep 16, 2014 12:39 PM in response to Loner T
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    Sep 16, 2014 12:39 PM in response to Loner T

    Thank you, Loner T, for all your help. I gave up and bought WinClone. A few minutes later I had Windows running on the iMac as well.

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Sep 16, 2014 12:46 PM in response to jon.schneider
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    Sep 16, 2014 12:46 PM in response to jon.schneider

    Just for completeness, can you post the output of the four commands that we have used in this thread. It would help any future similar issues.

  • by jon.schneider,

    jon.schneider jon.schneider Sep 17, 2014 3:21 AM in response to Loner T
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    Sep 17, 2014 3:21 AM in response to Loner T

    Of course, but this is now after cloning the Bootcamp partition from the MBP to the iMac:

     

    Sequoia:~ Jon$ diskutil list

    /dev/disk0

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *120.0 GB   disk0

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk0s1

       2:          Apple_CoreStorage                         119.7 GB   disk0s2

       3:                 Apple_Boot Boot OS X               134.2 MB   disk0s3

    /dev/disk1

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *1.0 TB     disk1

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk1s1

       2:          Apple_CoreStorage                         849.3 GB   disk1s2

       3:                 Apple_Boot Recovery HD             650.1 MB   disk1s3

       4:       Microsoft Basic Data BOOTCAMP                150.0 GB   disk1s4

    /dev/disk2

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                  Apple_HFS FusionDrive            *963.2 GB   disk2

                                     Logical Volume on disk0s2, disk1s2

                                     DEFBCEA5-F98B-490E-8B2C-7F1BFB40D910

                                     Unencrypted Fusion Drive

     

    Sequoia:~ Jon$ diskutil cs list

    CoreStorage logical volume groups (1 found)

    |

    +-- Logical Volume Group 1147F128-BF4A-4BD1-A8AF-D8487B900DDB

        =========================================================

        Name:         FusionDrive

        Status:       Online

        Size:         969034940416 B (969.0 GB)

        Free Space:   106496 B (106.5 KB)

        |

        +-< Physical Volume 6D7ABA69-1E4E-4005-8A99-803025EB2A4D

        |   ----------------------------------------------------

        |   Index:    0

        |   Disk:     disk0s2

        |   Status:   Online

        |   Size:     119690149888 B (119.7 GB)

        |

        +-< Physical Volume 11A5A95D-A9EF-4400-B20F-B7BFA113ACF7

        |   ----------------------------------------------------

        |   Index:    1

        |   Disk:     disk1s2

        |   Status:   Online

        |   Size:     849344790528 B (849.3 GB)

        |

        +-> Logical Volume Family 9103DD20-F790-407D-8A86-E22BEC91EFA6

            ----------------------------------------------------------

            Encryption Status:       Unlocked

            Encryption Type:         None

            Conversion Status:       NoConversion

            Conversion Direction:    -none-

            Has Encrypted Extents:   No

            Fully Secure:            No

            Passphrase Required:     No

            |

            +-> Logical Volume DEFBCEA5-F98B-490E-8B2C-7F1BFB40D910

                ---------------------------------------------------

                Disk:                  disk2

                Status:                Online

                Size (Total):          963186655232 B (963.2 GB)

                Conversion Progress:   -none-

                Revertible:            No

                LV Name:               FusionDrive

                Volume Name:           FusionDrive

                Content Hint:          Apple_HFS


    Sequoia:~ Jon$ sudo gpt -r -vv show disk1

    Password:

    gpt show: disk1: mediasize=1000204886016; sectorsize=512; blocks=1953525168

    gpt show: disk1: Suspicious MBR at sector 0

    gpt show: disk1: Pri GPT at sector 1

    gpt show: disk1: Sec GPT at sector 1953525167

           start        size  index  contents

               0           1         MBR

               1           1         Pri GPT header

               2          32         Pri GPT table

              34           6        

              40      409600      1  GPT part - C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B

          409640  1658876544      2  GPT part - 53746F72-6167-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

      1659286184     1269760      3  GPT part - 426F6F74-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

      1660555944        1368        

      1660557312   292966400      4  GPT part - EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7

      1953523712        1423        

      1953525135          32         Sec GPT table

      1953525167           1         Sec GPT header

     

    Sequoia:~ Jon$ sudo fdisk /dev/disk1

    Disk: /dev/disk1 geometry: 121601/255/63 [1953525168 sectors]

    Signature: 0xAA55

             Starting       Ending

    #: id  cyl  hd sec -  cyl  hd sec [     start -       size]

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    1: EE    0   0   2 -   25 127  14 [         1 -     409639] <Unknown ID>

    2: AC   25 127  15 - 1023 200  59 [    409640 - 1658876544] <Unknown ID>

    3: AB 1023 200  60 - 1023 210  54 [1659286184 -    1269760] Darwin Boot

    *4: 07 1023 232  37 - 1023  57  56 [1660557312 -  292966400] HPFS/QNX/AUX

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Sep 17, 2014 3:30 AM in response to jon.schneider
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    Sep 17, 2014 3:30 AM in response to jon.schneider

    Thanks for posting this. This is what I expected. Winclone saved you from fighting through installation issues, which is a bit easier. Glad to see it work. The MBR #2 has incorrect id, it should be 0x'AF', not 0x'AC', and should show up as HFS+. Leave it as is, because OSX does not need/use the MBR, but you should report this to TwoCanoes.

     

    Did you consider putting the Windows installation on the SSD, rather than on the HDD?

  • by Mazzerac,

    Mazzerac Mazzerac Sep 17, 2014 5:31 PM in response to jon.schneider
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    Sep 17, 2014 5:31 PM in response to jon.schneider

    Re jon.schneider's 3rd post on the first page): Exactly the same symptoms I'm experiencing.

  • by jon.schneider,

    jon.schneider jon.schneider Sep 17, 2014 11:28 PM in response to Loner T
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    Sep 17, 2014 11:28 PM in response to Loner T

    No, I didn't. I didn't want to take away space on the SSD from OS X. And I thought Bootcamp could only be installed on the HDD when using a FusionDrive, so that was the plan all along. Now I just have to find a few more opportunities to use WinClone to make it worth the money.

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Sep 18, 2014 5:14 AM in response to jon.schneider
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    Sep 18, 2014 5:14 AM in response to jon.schneider

    Thanks, jon.schneider

     

    I am planning to do a similar experiment, but put Windows on a part of the SSD. I think future issues of Windows boot ability will make good use of Winclone, and the ROI should be good. It is a new "toy" and the desire to use it often to learn more is a very natural instinct.

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