TotallyLee
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Q: Logic Pro 9 system overload

Logic Pro 9 10010 and 10011 crashing errors. Does anyone have a fix? From my googling it seems it's an issue that's been around for years. I've already phone Apple and the could only direct me to the article on apples website, which doesn't fix it. I' don't have a lot of software installed or running on my mac and have used the same system and version of logic for 3 years now without issue but over the last week is been near impossible to mix. I can listen to between 10 seconds and 30 seconds before it crashing with one of those errors, both of which seem to be system overloads. There must be a simple setting or solution I'm missing?

iMac (27-inch Mid 2010), OS X Mavericks (10.9.4)

Posted on Sep 12, 2014 4:55 AM

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  • by The Art Of Sound,

    The Art Of Sound The Art Of Sound Sep 12, 2014 5:21 AM in response to TotallyLee
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    Sep 12, 2014 5:21 AM in response to TotallyLee

    So.... What's changed between when Logic worked fine and now doesn't?

     

    something you installed... Upgraded.. Updated.... Started to use?

     

    Problems like this just don't suddenly start happening without something else being the cause.. so the key is to identify what has changed and then to go from there..

  • by Pancenter,

    Pancenter Pancenter Sep 12, 2014 7:54 AM in response to TotallyLee
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    Sep 12, 2014 7:54 AM in response to TotallyLee

    TotallyLee wrote:

     

                                                  I don't have a lot of software installed or running on my mac and have used the same system and version of logic for 3 years now without issue but over the last week is been near impossible to mix.

     

    But not the same Operating System.  How much RAM do you have?

    Apple's latest version's of OSX are far more CPU intensive than what your machine shipped with.

  • by TotallyLee,

    TotallyLee TotallyLee Sep 12, 2014 7:59 AM in response to Pancenter
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    Sep 12, 2014 7:59 AM in response to Pancenter

    I've got 4GB of RAM. I have the latest OS although the issue didn't begin when I installed that. That was a while befe.

  • by TotallyLee,

    TotallyLee TotallyLee Sep 12, 2014 8:02 AM in response to The Art Of Sound
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    Sep 12, 2014 8:02 AM in response to The Art Of Sound

    I haven't installed, ungraded or updated anything new in many months.

     

    The only thing that I was thinking was almost exactly at the same time Logic began this issue I was downloading a lot of movies and lost track of how many, to the point where I had no more HDD space. Obviously Logic needs a certain amount to work correctly so I could understand if that caused the problems but I deleted A LOT of stuff to the point where I have around 700GB free on the HDD now.

     

    Is it possible although I've freed up all the space again Logic still recognises there isn't enough space?

  • by The Art Of Sound,

    The Art Of Sound The Art Of Sound Sep 12, 2014 8:34 AM in response to TotallyLee
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    Sep 12, 2014 8:34 AM in response to TotallyLee

    This may sound stupid.. but you did empty the trash after you deleted those files yes?

     

    Also, Mavericks 10.9.4  came out at the beginning of July so that's only a couple of months or so... depending on when you actually updated... so it could be your Audio Interface's drivers (if you are using one) are not working well with the latest versions of OS X... Have you checked for updated drivers?

     

    Did you connect an external HD recently.. and if so, how is it formatted? Drives formatted in Fat32 format (windows) can and do slow down things...

     

    Failing all of this.. take a screenshot

     

    Take a screenshot on your Mac

     

    ....of the OS X activity monitor when you get this issue... (Sort by CPU %)

     

    OS X Mavericks: About Activity Monitor

     

    ...and post it up here.....

  • by TotallyLee,

    TotallyLee TotallyLee Sep 12, 2014 9:00 AM in response to The Art Of Sound
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    Sep 12, 2014 9:00 AM in response to The Art Of Sound

    Yeah the trash is deleted. I have 664GB free on my HDD right now. I use a Line 6 Pod as an audio interface and have just checked and the software is up to date and according to Line 6's website it is compatible with my current OS.

     

    Around 2 months ago I connected 2 external hard drives. Both of which are formatted for mac and only store media. I don't run anything from them other than streaming through iTunes.

     

    Here are the 2 error messages i'm receiving. It jumps between both each time with fairly regular intervals of 10-30 seconds of playback. Also here's my activity log during the errors.

    Screen Shot 2014-09-12 at 16.47.18.png

    Screen Shot 2014-09-12 at 16.53.56.png

    Screen Shot 2014-09-12 at 16.45.23.png

  • by The Art Of Sound,

    The Art Of Sound The Art Of Sound Sep 12, 2014 11:11 AM in response to TotallyLee
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    Sep 12, 2014 11:11 AM in response to TotallyLee

    Unfortunately, due to an ongoing bug in this forum.. I cannot see the screenshots you posted....

     

    You can try posting them again, but just one screenshot per post as that sometimes gets around this annoying bug....

  • by TotallyLee,

    TotallyLee TotallyLee Sep 12, 2014 11:17 AM in response to The Art Of Sound
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    Sep 12, 2014 11:17 AM in response to The Art Of Sound

    Here's activity log. Has it worked?

    Screen Shot 2014-09-12 at 16.45.23.png

  • by The Art Of Sound,

    The Art Of Sound The Art Of Sound Sep 12, 2014 11:19 AM in response to TotallyLee
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    Sep 12, 2014 11:19 AM in response to TotallyLee

    No.. Sorry... it hasn't.....

     

    Its a really annoying bug........

     

    Maybe host it somewhere and then post a link?

  • by The Art Of Sound,

    The Art Of Sound The Art Of Sound Sep 12, 2014 12:18 PM in response to TotallyLee
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    Sep 12, 2014 12:18 PM in response to TotallyLee

    Okay..

     

    From the screenshots.. You have a heck of a lot of Space Designer instances all running at the same time (from the few tracks I can see.. I count at least 20!) which will easily overload your CPU (as is happening per the Activity Monitor which shows Logic Pro using close to 350% of available CPU capacity..... In other words you are maxing out your system resources and then some!!)  depending on which SD presets you are using....

     

    Try using Buses and only a couple of instances of SD instead of so many different instances, if you can.... as that will help a lot on reducing the demands being made on your system....

     

    or...

     

    Start freezing tracks.. so the load is taken off them....

  • by TotallyLee,

    TotallyLee TotallyLee Sep 12, 2014 12:33 PM in response to The Art Of Sound
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    Sep 12, 2014 12:33 PM in response to The Art Of Sound

    I do have a habit of a lot of reverb haha. To be honest on this track I'm not using any more than I have on other and even if a track is just drum, bass, guitars and no plug in I'm having the same issue.

     

    I've read about freezing tracks before but was unsure about the down sides? By that I mean can I still edit if need be?

  • by The Art Of Sound,

    The Art Of Sound The Art Of Sound Sep 12, 2014 12:47 PM in response to TotallyLee
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    Sep 12, 2014 12:47 PM in response to TotallyLee

    Yes, you just unfreeze and then edit and then refreeze again....

     

    However, if you are getting this issue using just a couple of tracks and no plugins then there has to be something else going on with your system to cause it....

     

    Not sure what it could be but if you can again, throw up a screenshot of the Activity Monitor when you get this issue on a porject that is as simple as you stated, that will help a lot hopefully.. to track down the real cause...

  • by Pancenter,

    Pancenter Pancenter Sep 12, 2014 1:02 PM in response to The Art Of Sound
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    Sep 12, 2014 1:02 PM in response to The Art Of Sound

    I can see the first graphic Lee posted but the two underneath it don't load.

     

    The first graphic mentions System Overload (Sudden Motion Sensor) which usually means the drive head is not getting to all of the data stored on the drive in time. You had mentioned this may have started after downloading a bunch of movies and running out of drive space. If you were using Logic at this time it may have corrupted preferences. Yes, it's a long shot, see below.  The other problem... you are running everything off the system drive, while OSX does auto-defrag the system drive it does not organize and defrag files larger than 20mb, (at least this used to be the case). I'm guessing that between downloading the movies and deleting them your drive has become fragmented, between the overhead of 10.9.4 (which uses the drive for buffers, especially with only 4GB RAM) and the fragmented drive the drive can no longer keep up.

     

     

    EDIT: for L9

    Delete the Logic 9 preferences file.

     

    In the Finder, choose Go > Go to Folder from the menu.

    Type   ~/Library/Preferences   in the "Go to the folder" field.

    Press the Go button.

    Remove the com.apple.logic.pro.plist  file from the Preferences folder. Note that if you have programmed any custom key commands, this will reset them to the defaults. You may wish to export your custom key command as a preset before performing this step. See the Logic Pro User Manual for details on how to do this.

     

    Be sure and include the tilde~ in the path above.

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