OS 8.6 – USB devices don't work

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XBHS1997 Author

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OS 8.6 – USB devices don't work

Hi!

I can't continue my work on the 4400/200, so I'm trying to get an iMac G3 Rev.D 333 Mhz Tray Loading working. Somebody has installed a later OS 9 for iMac DV slot loading and messed the OS. Well, my actual problem: I'd like to copy the System Folder of another working, identical iMac, but USB sticks won't work. It recognizes them, but then shows a message (the OS is in French, I've translated it)

"The software resources needed for the use of the peripheral "[]" could not be found. Please read the peripheral's documentation to install them."

I've tried several USB sticks, from 64 MB to 4 GB. Does OS 8.6 work with Mac OS X Extended? And FAT16?

Sorry for the quite basic question, I don't remember which file types I've used on OS 8...

Thanks!

Nicolas

Power Macintosh 4400/200-OTHER, Mac OS 8.6 or Earlier, iMac G3 Rev.D 333 Mhz Tray Loading

Posted on Sep 12, 2014 12:49 PM

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Answer 1

BDAqua

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Sep 13, 2014 12:09 PM in response to XBHS1997

Mac OS X Extended came out with OS 8.1, was updated at 8.5 & 8.6

I can't remember for certain, but I think FAT had to be chosen in some CP.

How would you replace the System folder without having another Boot Disk?

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XBHS1997 Author

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Sep 13, 2014 1:47 PM in response to BDAqua

Thanks!

What I'd like to do is copy the working G3's system (I've heard that this is possible on OS 8 / 9), and then boot the other G3 with the CD (Can't boot it from the HD anymore), and then replace the messed up system with the other one... I don't remember every step, but from the options I've seen in disk utility, it seemed possible...

Is is not possible to "make" a bootable OS 8.6 from 1 mac and "put" it on the other's HD? [I think the files were already erased, so that's not important.]

Thanks!

Nicolas

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XBHS1997 Author

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Sep 13, 2014 1:49 PM in response to XBHS1997

Oh, please forget the "Power Macintosh 4400/200", that has nothing to do here.

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BDAqua

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Sep 13, 2014 2:03 PM in response to XBHS1997

Do both the Macs involved have Firewire?

If you hold t key at bootup, does the iMac show a big floating FW symbol? I can't remember when FWTDM started.

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XBHS1997 Author

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Sep 13, 2014 2:28 PM in response to BDAqua

I would have tried the target mode... No, they're both exactly the same (well, besides the color ^^) Rev.D tray loading 333 Mhz without FireWire. I think iMac G3s only got FireWire from the 400 Mhz slot loading model.

Thanks!

Nicolas

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BDAqua

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Sep 13, 2014 6:30 PM in response to XBHS1997

Ah, I think you're correct, darn it.

I don't know if these can be made to boot off USB or not, my iMac/600 could boot OS9 off USB, but I think we're lost without another drive to boot from. 😟

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XBHS1997 Author

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Sep 14, 2014 12:15 PM in response to XBHS1997

Well, I'll still try it! 😐

I'd like to make peripherals working with this iMac, and then I'll open a new post for the other... Maybe I've not tried all you can try (on the second one, I mean).

Thanks!

Nicolas

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BDAqua

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Sep 15, 2014 11:06 AM in response to XBHS1997

OK, keep us posted please. 🙂

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Answer 9

Chris CA

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Sep 15, 2014 11:10 AM in response to BDAqua

BDAqua wrote:

Mac OS X Extended came out with OS 8.1, was updated at 8.5 & 8.6

That would be HFS+, not Mac OS X anything.

😉

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XBHS1997 Author

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Sep 15, 2014 2:02 PM in response to XBHS1997

Of course I will! 🙂

Thanks Chris!

Has nobody had the same problem? What could I try else? I don't think that there's OS installed on this mac to burn CDs...

Did every single peripheral on OS 8 need it's own driver to be installed before use??

Thanks!

Nicolas

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Jan Hedlund

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Sep 15, 2014 4:10 PM in response to XBHS1997

Nicolas,

In order to be able to use a USB drive on a computer running Mac OS 8.6, you may want to check whether USB Mass Storage Support version 1.3.5 is installed:

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1265

A USB flash drive could be used for file transfers, but that would require at least a working operating system on each computer. As has been indicated earlier, do not expect a USB drive to be bootable with the machines involved here. If necessary, an appropriate version of the Drive Setup utility can reformat a drive to Mac OS Standard (HFS) or Mac OS Extended (HFS+).

Jan

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Jan Hedlund

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Sep 15, 2014 5:16 PM in response to Jan Hedlund

Addendum

Alternatively, a universal USB adapter for IDE/ATA hard drives (one example: http://www.newertech.com/products/usb3_universaldriveadap.php) could be used to transfer files from the internal hard disk of a working computer to a hard drive that has been (temporarily) removed from another machine. You may find similar adapters at a local computer store.

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XBHS1997 Author

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Sep 16, 2014 9:37 AM in response to XBHS1997

Hi!

OK, thank you very much!

I'll have to boot it from the CD again this week-end, I don't remember all possible options in Disk Utility...

It's a newer disk from DV / DV SE G3s, but at least, the older iMac can use it to boot though...

I have such an adapter, it's a very useful tool! I don't care about the files (I think they were already erased).

Well, I'll have to try again this week-end, make some photos and maybe a video! Thanks!

Nicolas

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