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Q: ios - 8 where are the 'camera roll' and 'photostream' albums?

I see the ios8 had done away with the "camera roll" and "photostream" albums and replace them with a "recently added" album. Is there any way to get this old functionality back?

 

All I want is one folder that contains all the photos on my device and another that contains the photos that I'm happy to share across my devices. I would have hoped I could have create some smart albums, but albums seem to have to be curated manually.

 

I know I can see all my photos with the photos tab, but there are two issue I have with this, #1 the "collections" interface is horrible – I just want a nice grid of photos like in albums – and #2 my photostream photos are merge within them.

 

I now have no way of telling if I'm deleting a photo from the phone or the photostream, for example when I'm trying to free up space on the phone.

 

Would turning on the "icloud photo library" feature help? I would rather not use that as I don't want it to waste all my icloud space.

iPhone 5, iOS 7.0.3

Posted on Sep 17, 2014 1:00 PM

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  • by Scubatrip,

    Scubatrip Scubatrip Sep 21, 2014 4:15 PM in response to think.different
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    Sep 21, 2014 4:15 PM in response to think.different

    The photos are still there but sorted by location and date so it looks like a horrible cluster.........  Impossible to flick thought to find a photo....  Apple messed this up big time!

  • by razz2,

    razz2 razz2 Sep 22, 2014 1:42 AM in response to think.different
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    Sep 22, 2014 1:42 AM in response to think.different

    I ran into the ""This photo is not editable" issue, and after some experimenting here is what I have found. It seems the Recently Added is really just a view into the shared stream. Images originating on a device are editable because the original is stored locally. Images originating on other devices must not be fully downloaded on the device, but must be a lower res preview of some sort. But you do not have to Duplicate and Edit as it suggests. Just select the image(s) and hit the button as though you were going take an action on it, such as emailing it. Choose Save Image(s) and the image(s) are downloaded, enabling favoriting and editing.

     

         Razz

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Sep 22, 2014 1:48 AM in response to Scubatrip
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    Sep 22, 2014 1:48 AM in response to Scubatrip

    you can quickly browse the photos in Moments:

    http://help.apple.com/ipad/8/#/iPad99c6ed03

     

    • To quickly browse the photos in a collection or year, touch and hold for a moment, then drag.

    By default, Photos displays a representative subset of your photos when you view by year or by collection. To see all your photos, go to Settings > Photos & Camera, then turn off Summarize Photos.

  • by think.different,

    think.different think.different Sep 27, 2014 3:09 AM in response to think.different
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    Sep 27, 2014 3:09 AM in response to think.different

    I see that the 8.0.2 update has fixed the ability for other app to now see ALL your photos not just the recently added ones. Still no sign of the "My Photo Stream" album.

  • by Bartificial,

    Bartificial Bartificial Sep 27, 2014 3:38 AM in response to think.different
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    Sep 27, 2014 3:38 AM in response to think.different

    I experimented for a while: http://redd.it/2hj2ig

  • by think.different,

    think.different think.different Sep 27, 2014 11:06 AM in response to Bartificial
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    Sep 27, 2014 11:06 AM in response to Bartificial

    @Bartificial  Interesting read, well explained.

     

    The problem with iCloud Photo Library is that I do not what every photo I take on every device I own (I think this is how it works - tell me if I'm wrong), plus that I will require to have to pay for extra iCloud storage space (I know it is cheap for 20gb) _ the photo stream achieved this.

     

    Both services work in different ways (as Keironsmith pointed out in your own post). I want to have each devices to have their own unique camera roll and for me to decide which photos are stream between them all. I use each device for different reasons and do not need the bulk of photos taken on my iPhone on my iPad and visa-a-vera. When you had a camera roll and the photo stream you where able to accomplish this - you had full control of what went where.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Sep 27, 2014 11:14 AM in response to Bartificial
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    Sep 27, 2014 11:14 AM in response to Bartificial

    From your linked post:

    Long story short: All the inconsistencies are gone since I disabled Photo Stream and turned on iCloud Photo Library. Changes I make on one device are visible on the other. If I delete a photo on my iPhone, it's gone from my iPad as well (also gets deleted from any album a photo is in. If I delete a photo from within an album, only that photo is deleted but the original is still in the Photos tab).

    Just a caution: With  iCloud Photo Library enabled you are no longer able to sync photos from a Mac using iTunes and the Photo Stream no longer works from the Mac to your portable devices.  So how to upload photos from the Mac, sice the corresponding Photos.app on the Mac has yet to be released?

  • by think.different,

    think.different think.different Sep 27, 2014 11:14 AM in response to think.different
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    Sep 27, 2014 11:14 AM in response to think.different

    On a side note, we use one of the iPads as our families digital photo album and have about 8,000 photos on it. If we used iCloud Photo Library would it add all those photos to the cloud and then push them to our other devices?

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Sep 27, 2014 11:26 AM in response to think.different
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    Sep 27, 2014 11:26 AM in response to think.different
    If we used iCloud Photo Library would it add all those photos to the cloud and then push them to our other devices?

    The iCloud photo library is stored in the iCloud and not on the mobile devices.  You can access it from any mobile device, that has iCloud Photo Library enabled.

    But this may change - Apple just removed all documentation for iCloud Photo Library from its web pages and downgraded the library to Beta. I would not rely on any of the features, until the status is no longer Beta,  see:

     

    Apple Pushes iCloud Photo Library Back to Beta as SMS Continuity Delayed to October - Mac Rumors

  • by John Dorsey,

    John Dorsey John Dorsey Sep 27, 2014 3:11 PM in response to léonie
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    Sep 27, 2014 3:11 PM in response to léonie

    I am guessing too that if no photos are on the device, and all are in the cloud, when you have no internet connection you have no photos.  Like - Pandora.  Or iTunes Radio.  But we'll see about that I guess.

  • by think.different,

    think.different think.different Sep 28, 2014 3:23 AM in response to léonie
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    Sep 28, 2014 3:23 AM in response to léonie

    @léonie Yes, but something is stored locally on the device. What depends on whether you select "Optimize iPhone Storage" or "Download and Keep Originals" - so at the very least you are storing thumbnails on your device.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Sep 28, 2014 3:26 AM in response to JonnyB
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    Sep 28, 2014 3:26 AM in response to JonnyB

    JonnyB wrote:

     

    Fine - where is the "PhotoStream" photo album that could hold up to 1000 pictures? I have an iphone and ipad BOTH with IOS8 - I do not own a Mac. When I look at icloud.com from my PC - there are no pictures there.

    Is your PC compatible, what version of iCloud does it have, 3?

  • by think.different,

    think.different think.different Oct 3, 2014 1:27 PM in response to think.different
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    Oct 3, 2014 1:27 PM in response to think.different

    It looks like the Camera Roll may come back in some form in iOS8.1 if you disable iCloud Photo Library, which is what is working in iOS 8.1 beta 1 at the moment. See > http://www.cultofmac.com/298562/resurrect-camera-roll-ios-8-1/

  • by JonnyB,

    JonnyB JonnyB Oct 4, 2014 5:02 PM in response to think.different
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    Oct 4, 2014 5:02 PM in response to think.different

    A few thoughts on this subject. I am running IOS 8.02 - at no time during any upgrade have been shown anything about iCloud Photo Library - not even a beta option - where is everyone else seeing this?

     

    Now this...there are some images in Recently Added that when I go to edit them - say - not editable, make a duplicate. Ive done that - its a pain in the *** as now you have multiples of the same image on your device....BUT - I have found that if you start up a 3rd party app like Aviary - to edit that same photo - it does NOT say make a duplicate - its makes the edits as it should as saves one copy. Makes no sense to me all.....I thought the "Not Editable" message meant that "that photo is not located ON THIS DEVICE - if that is true - how is 3rd party app finding it?

     

    jonB

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Oct 5, 2014 3:56 PM in response to JonnyB
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    Oct 5, 2014 3:56 PM in response to JonnyB

    iCloud Library is back in Beta status; it depends on if you previously had installed the Beta version of iOS 8 on your devices, if you are now seeing it or not. It is not much use anyway, without a matching Photos.app on the mac.

    See:  Apple Pushes iCloud Photo Library Back to Beta as SMS Continuity Delayed to October - Mac Rumors

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