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Q: ios - 8 where are the 'camera roll' and 'photostream' albums?

I see the ios8 had done away with the "camera roll" and "photostream" albums and replace them with a "recently added" album. Is there any way to get this old functionality back?

 

All I want is one folder that contains all the photos on my device and another that contains the photos that I'm happy to share across my devices. I would have hoped I could have create some smart albums, but albums seem to have to be curated manually.

 

I know I can see all my photos with the photos tab, but there are two issue I have with this, #1 the "collections" interface is horrible – I just want a nice grid of photos like in albums – and #2 my photostream photos are merge within them.

 

I now have no way of telling if I'm deleting a photo from the phone or the photostream, for example when I'm trying to free up space on the phone.

 

Would turning on the "icloud photo library" feature help? I would rather not use that as I don't want it to waste all my icloud space.

iPhone 5, iOS 7.0.3

Posted on Sep 17, 2014 1:00 PM

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  • by think.different,

    think.different think.different Oct 6, 2014 2:05 AM in response to JonnyB
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    Oct 6, 2014 2:05 AM in response to JonnyB

    @JonnyB You can find the iCloud Photo Library option under Settings > Photos & Camera. Here you can toggle it on/off. It's the first item on the pane above My Photo Stream.

  • by think.different,

    think.different think.different Oct 6, 2014 2:22 AM in response to think.different
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    Oct 6, 2014 2:22 AM in response to think.different

    Right, having turned off "My Photo Stream" on my phone, after the 8.0.2 update I turned it back on the see if anything has changed.

     

    Now it will not show any historical Photo Stream photos – it will only sync new photos. If I turn it off/on again only the photos that where taken since the 8.0.2 update will sync back to the device non of the photos take pre 8.0.2 update on other devices and in the Stream will sync.

     

    Only heaven knows what Cupertino are up to?

  • by kyte,

    kyte kyte Oct 6, 2014 2:56 AM in response to think.different
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    Oct 6, 2014 2:56 AM in response to think.different

    I Dont think anyone at Cupertino has thought it through.  They lost the plot. The changes to photography in iOS should *not* have been made until the entire system was ready. It is, as I've said, a dogs breakfast.

  • by JonnyB,

    JonnyB JonnyB Oct 6, 2014 7:58 AM in response to JonnyB
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    Oct 6, 2014 7:58 AM in response to JonnyB

    That's what everyone saying - but here are my 2 screens on this subject. Id like to try the library if I get just find it.

     

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 6, 2014 8:11 AM in response to think.different
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    Oct 6, 2014 8:11 AM in response to think.different

    think.different wrote:

     

    @JonnyB You can find the iCloud Photo Library option under Settings > Photos & Camera. Here you can toggle it on/off. It's the first item on the pane above My Photo Stream.

    Provided iCloud Drive is on, that's correct.

     

    I am not suggesting that anyone switch iCloud Drive on unless they understand what that will mean to them.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Oct 6, 2014 8:24 AM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 6, 2014 8:24 AM in response to Csound1

    I am not suggesting that anyone switch iCloud Drive on unless they understand what that will mean to them.

    Exactly!

     

    @JonnyB

    Some background reading on iCloud Drive:

     

    And with iCloud Library Beta enabled you will no longer be able to sync photos to your devices using iTunes photo sync.

  • by think.different,

    think.different think.different Oct 6, 2014 10:33 AM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 6, 2014 10:33 AM in response to Csound1

    @Csound1   I have not got iCloud Drive turn on - never been enabled - and I can still see the iCloud Photo Library option under Settings > Photos & Camera.

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 6, 2014 11:30 AM in response to think.different
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    Oct 6, 2014 11:30 AM in response to think.different

    What does it say under Settings>iCloud, is there a switch for Drive?

     

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  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Oct 6, 2014 11:37 AM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 6, 2014 11:37 AM in response to Csound1

    I tested yesterday, Csound1, and on my iPhone 5S the iCloud Photo Library is also working, independent of the setting for iCloud Drive. But my iCloud account has been upgraded to iCloud Drive.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 6, 2014 11:40 AM in response to léonie
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    Oct 6, 2014 11:40 AM in response to léonie

    Interesting, I upgraded an iPad and a phone, neither had the iCloud Photo Library option until I switched iCloud Drive on? (although I am less sure about the iPad, I wasn't paying attention by then) There are multiple descriptions in this thread, what's really going on?

     

    There are a lot of variables,

     

    iCloud Drive, on, off but previously on, or on for the account from another device:

    iPhoto Library on or off

    PhotoStream on, on but previously off, on at the time of upgrade but subsequently off

     

    or some combination of the foregoing

     

    And I may have missed some

  • by JonnyB,

    JonnyB JonnyB Oct 6, 2014 11:47 AM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 6, 2014 11:47 AM in response to Csound1

    icloud drive = on

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 6, 2014 11:49 AM in response to JonnyB
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    Oct 6, 2014 11:49 AM in response to JonnyB

    And you have no iCloud Photo Library option, correct?

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Oct 6, 2014 11:58 AM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 6, 2014 11:58 AM in response to Csound1

    My guess:

    iCloud Drive, on, off but previously on, or on for the account from another device:

    iPhoto Library on or off

    iCloud Drive once enabled upgrades the account to iCloud Drive. We can disable it again, but the upgrade cannot be undone. Probably that is why I am seeing the iCloud iPhoto Library option now continually.

     

    It would help, if Apple would put back some documentation, since this feature is available.

  • by think.different,

    think.different think.different Oct 6, 2014 2:09 PM in response to think.different
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    Oct 6, 2014 2:09 PM in response to think.different

    I have the option for iCloud Drive under iCloud setting.

    I have never enable iCloud Drive. I have never enabled iCloud Photo Library. Both options have been listed since the iOS8 update. No other devices of mine are on iOS8.

     

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  • by gazdzzy,

    gazdzzy gazdzzy Oct 8, 2014 4:25 PM in response to think.different
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    Oct 8, 2014 4:25 PM in response to think.different

    This discussion has nothing to do with the iCloud drive. It is essentially apple doing away with the fundamental options of having the "Camera Roll" and "Photostream" albums. There needs to be a very clear distinction between photos taken on each and every iOS device and those that are shared on photo stream. Confusing iOS users with all these pictures being mixed up on each and every device and not knowing which photo you are deleting (whether it is local or photo streamed) is a phenomenal step backwards in my point of view.

     

    I am seriously hoping this whole thing is a flaw and that apple will reintroduce the photo stream and camera roll albums. I really wonder whose bright idea was it to do away with those albums?!

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