iOS8 I can't find the iCloud Drive Icon. Where is t?

"Nice job of selectively quoting the ad by the way, did you ignore everything before the bit you liked?"

Well... yes!

I did exactly that: I ignored everything before, because it was not what I was interested in.

I couldn't care less for sharing pictures and mail, etc; I need file storage.

I don't see how I could have been wrong in quoting the part of the ad that attracted me?

My point was, they do advertise storage; but I can't store stuff.

Maybe really I'm still doing something wrong; I can't find anything similar to what you show in your pictures in my system. But fom what I've read in the thread, many people can't either.

Also, I agree with the post above this: even if I could one glorious day find the folders that you show in the pictures in my system - this wouldn't work. It's all centered in apps, it is not exactly file storage system.

And forgot, have all the emails sorted in the same folder as all other documents and files.

Dropbox works fine but for my requirements not encrypted means not safe.

Yes, I understand the encryption problem can be serious with Dropbox.

I do not work with particularly sensitive material (the bulk of my files relates to academic research), so for the moment the storage capacity and easy flow in DB outweighs this issue for me. But surely it would be good to find a system with good capacity plus safety (I had thought iCloud would be it).

mariaclaraps wrote:

"Nice job of selectively quoting the ad by the way, did you ignore everything before the bit you liked?"

Well... yes!

I did exactly that: I ignored everything before, because it was not what I was interested in.

I couldn't care less for sharing pictures and mail, etc; I need file storage.

Then don't use a system that provides them. If DropBox works for you stay with it.

this wouldn't work. It's all centered in apps, it is not exactly file storage system.

Wrong again.

I am sure Apple will modify the way iCloud works. They are using Amazons servers and they are by far the most reliable I know of.

mariaclaraps wrote:

Yes, I understand the encryption problem can be serious with Dropbox.

I do not work with particularly sensitive material (the bulk of my files relates to academic research), so for the moment the storage capacity and easy flow in DB outweighs this issue for me. But surely it would be good to find a system with good capacity plus safety (I had thought iCloud would be it).

iCloud offers up to 1 Terabyte of storage and is by far the most secure consumer system available (excluding well run Exchange systems)

How much capacity do you need, surely 1TB is enough?

Really, your pictures baffle me.

I can't get anything remotely like this to work for me.

As for this: "Then don't use a system that provides them. If DropBox works for you stay with it." - ok, this is a little obvious.

I am staying with DropBox (in fact this is what I was saying in my first post).

What I was pointing out is that I do not think it is fair for Apple to announce iCloud as a serious alternative to other Cloud file storage systems, when, for most users, it clearly is not.

I think this is deceitful consumer policy.

One example: before I bought the MacBook Air, I did some research, and I was worried about the relatively limited storage capacity (as compared to my previous machine, a Pro). I specifically enquired the sales-person at the Mac Store about this problem.

His answer: "Don't worry about storage capacity, you can store all your files in iCloud with no hassle at all".

Now I see this is simply not true.

I cannot help thinking this is just wrong.

Yes 1TB is what I have in DB, surely it's enough.

But I cannot use iCloud AT ALL at the moment, not 1TB, not 1MB.

Your assertion is wrong, iCloud does provide file storage (look at my pictures)

If you want to back off the criticism and ask for a 'how to' I will oblige.

Provide an example of your workflow, apps included.

Ok, let's try that, I'd deeply appreciate it.

So here goes, below: (1) My system info (2) What my iCloud tab looks like in Preferences

Please tell me what else you'd need.

My files are mostly text files - .tex, .txt, .xml, .html, .doc, .odt, .pdf etc. They're not distributed by apps but by folders that group specific projects, with files of every kind in them. What I need is to upload those to a remote storage place and ideally be able to work with some of them off-line too, selectively, like with DB. I need at least 10GB of workable, syncable, files; and at least 190GB storage that can be remote only.

(1) My system info

(2) What my iCloud tab looks like in Preferences (anything not seen here is un-selected)

(it says 5 out of 5GB available, of course, because I haven't managed to upload anything there yet...)

You must have Yosemite to use iCloud Drive, that's not Yosemite. The Documents and Data system has been phased out in favour of iCloud Drive.

Minimum requirements are IOS8 on an iPhone or iPad and OS X Yosemite on a Mac.

You don't have iCloud Drive, that is why you don't see the iCloud Drive screens.

My main question - how I started this thread is just:

Is there a simpel way - to make for example:

Five folders on iCloud Drive, name the folders with Case 1, Case 2 etc. fill the folders with some .pdf, .Pages, .Numbers, .doc, Filemaker files etc. and also some emails if possible.

and then on my iPad or iPhone being able to open a file inside one of the folders, work with it and save it back to that particular folder - without any third party apps.

I bought pdfexpert and got Documents from Readdle for free, both apps work slow and crashes often due to Apples handling (they say).

The answer depends on your version of OSX

Yosemite yes

Others no

So tell me which version of OS X you have

OK!

I'm downloading Yosemite.

In fact... I'd noticed that I didn't have the latest OS and I've been downloading it (pausing and stuff) since last Thursday.

Mind you: I bought my Mac Air last Thursday (February 5) - and it wasn't cheap.

I am a *little bit* mad at having to download *any* software updates into a machine that I've bought 3 days ago.

But, ok fine, I'll do it.

When I'm finished I'll write back, thanks anyway.

OK.