Photos out of order in Events after iOS 8 update

I've only been in a WiFi so far since I updated, so I can't tell about cellular service issues. Touch ID has been fine so far, at least for unlicking the phone and 1Password.

I just read some more about those issues. Seems they're only on 6/6 Plus. I'm on a 5s though.

Yeah, better be safe than sorry. A restore with 8.0.1 supposedly solves the cellular/Touch ID issues though.

Certain calendar issues are another big turn down for me right now. Not sure what's up with Apple these days, but it's unsettling in a way. I hooe they'll get a grip soon before this goes way down.

My point exactly! How could no one have noticed such major bugs? Unless, of course, they only turned up in that short span between GM and public release, which seems highly unlikely to me. And all the reviewers too. On the other hand, I don't know anyone who has noticed that yet apart from myself.

What angers me is that it's now happening to Apple too. I was used to it with other companies, mainly Microsoft obviously, as I have to deal with their stuff at work. I'm using Apple products (Macs, iPhones, iPads, Apple TVs...) because they used to just work whereas others always came with major bugs. Sad to see this change in quality management or whatever they call it. I'm not blaming that on Steve Jobs' death solely, but there has been a palpable change since then.

I'm also left very frustrated that no review has mentioned this Photos bug. I do an occasional Twitter search to try to find people grappling this issue and can find no tweets about it.

I suppose it really much be a vast minority of users who actually use Apple's photo management tools and sync to iOS. I like and prefer the 'iPhoto - Events' model. It gives a fine grain control over how pictures are organized that I'm going to sorely miss it when Apple finally releases the Photos app for Yosemite.

By the way I'm glad people are enjoying PhotoSync. I've never signed up to participate in Apple's Community forums before, but decided to this time because I know how frustrating it is to be stuck trying to solve or work around an obscure iOS bug that no one - not ONE Apple blogger, reviewer, critic - has talked about, and to feel like you're going crazy thinking you're the only one who's affected by this problem and cares about seeing it solved.

Have people also noticed that interacting with Photos.app via other apps is virtually impossible? Photos runs slowly, or freezes, or crashes such that I can barely do anything with my pictures while in other apps. For instance, trying to select a picture to attach to a tweet in Tweetbot/iOS pulls up the Photos view and then freezes until I force quit the app. The release notes on 8.0.1 seemed to indicate they've patched that problem, but of course with the other issues it'll be a while before I see the benefits of the patch (I declined to update to 8.0.1 on my 5S when I saw the twitter reports about the signal issues. It was pulled before I saw that it was "safe" to install on 5S devices.).

I feel the exact same way re: no one mentioning it in reviews. Given how central a feature photo management is in iOS, you'd think someone in the media would have noticed, or have sources who noticed, this glaring bug? Users like us who rely on Events to manage our photos can't be SO rare that only the people on this thread are affected by it. It really irritates me that with the Moments and Collections nonsense, Apple is clearly responding to the lowest common denominator of user behavior, meaning people who never sync their phones or organize their pictures on a desktop or laptop as they were meant to, but instead just have a Camera Roll that is gigabytes big and basically a huge, lazy shoebox. I don't fault them for giving those users some built-in tools to save them from themselves, but why punish those of us who care about having a coherent and consistent organizational scheme by taking away the features that allowed us to do so?

My 24 thousand iPhoto photos are ordered in about 200 event folders. Many events cover an entire year and others are major events and trips. These events are carefully titled XXX.XX.XX date and description as are the individual photos themselves. Date and title sorts yield the same result. Since IOS 8 events are randomly synced. While I use iCloud for contacts, calendars and such, I use a wired iTunes sync for 24,000 photos and 17,000 song tracks. The problem doesn't seem to effect songs. I've wiped the defective sync and reloaded photo events ONE EVENT AT A TIME. Not a good fix, but it worked. My photo events are now in proper order although faces are still randomly scattered. To me Apples efforts to order my photos with occurrences is a horrendous mess.

Amen to that! Apple's quality control is terrible post Steve Jobs. They need a real man in there to run the show to crack the whip on the slackers they have in there now allowing these bugs to be released to the public, not some fruit cake. I paid good money for my iPhone 6 and iPad Air, and such obvious bugs/flaws are unacceptable with as much money as Apple has in the bank.

Mystwillow,

I love the way you phrased your post. "Events" allows us to take the photos out of the "lazy shoebox" and place them into an order that will make sense to those who view them even long after we are gone.

I think you should elaborate a bit on this point and send it to Tim Cook. Every email is read by somebody at Apple, and you would be surprised how many he reads. I have gotten replies from him.

Finally, the quality of the discussion on this thread is very impressive to me. Maybe we "photos people" are organized but articulate.

Vic

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At least I think I have found this issue's origin.

Someone mentioned earlier that the sorting is fine after syncing one event at a time. This made me think. If you've ever watched your photos app while syncing, you might have noticed that photos never sync from start to finish, but much rather in a random order. So I have kept a close look at a sync after wiping the phone of all photos. And there you go: The photos stayed in the exact same order they have been synced in.

The "sync-one-event-at-a-time" workaround is the logical solution, but with as many events as many here and also myself have (and also having them packed up in albums in Aperture) you might have to quit your day job to do so. And of course, if you create a new event later, that's not at the end of your sort order, you'll have to start all over again.

Well, it seems that 8.0.2 is already in the works and one can only hope that it will provide a real fix for this. However, I expect it to be a fix for the cellular/Touch ID issues on iPhone 6/6 Plus mainly and probably not much else.