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Q: Photos out of order in Events after iOS 8 update

I have an iPhone 5s that I just updated to iOS 8.  I sync photos from my Aperture library on my Mac, which show up as a "Events From My Mac" album under "Albums" in the Photos app on my iPhone.  In iOS 7 and before, events synced from Aperture would show in reverse chronological order, which made sense.  Upon updating to iOS 8, all the events are in a random order.  I have events from 2008, followed by 2010, then 2009, then 2012, then 2008, etc...

 

Has anyone else run into this issue?  I know that I'll probably have to resort to telling iTunes to stop syncing photos, delete the "iPod Photo Sync" folder from inside the Aperture package, then re-sync all the photos, but before I go through all that trouble, I was hoping someone might have an easy fix. 

iMac, OS X Mavericks (10.9.4)

Posted on Sep 17, 2014 4:02 PM

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  • by Polymer123,

    Polymer123 Polymer123 Oct 27, 2014 3:04 PM in response to Lindadee3
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    Oct 27, 2014 3:04 PM in response to Lindadee3

    Out of order events with my 35000 pictures is one extremely important problem, but also all my 5000 faces are out of order.

     

    I am faithful with Apple since Apple 2e 1985. Now I start to thing about alternatives!!!

  • by chris4!,

    chris4! chris4! Oct 27, 2014 8:17 PM in response to Polymer123
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    Oct 27, 2014 8:17 PM in response to Polymer123

    I chatted online at length last night to an Apple Senior Advisor.  They indicated that Apple is moving away from iPhotos to Photos and that the current algorithms between the two programs currently did not allow for them to be ordered in Photos as they appear in iPhoto.  He indicated that in Spring there is a probably release of Photos instead of iPhoto.  (Maybe this will solve the problem?)  He also advised to use albums as the major way to organise photos in preference to events.  I explained that functionality such as the thumbnails feature as you scroll across events is not available in Photos.  Not sure what is on the horizon exactly but once again it is a good idea to provide feedback to apple using the feedback form as the Senior Advisor indicated that many changes have occurred as a result of this feedback and that it is taken seriously.

  • by mrbofus,

    mrbofus mrbofus Oct 28, 2014 3:27 AM in response to alexanderfromsuffolk
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    Oct 28, 2014 3:27 AM in response to alexanderfromsuffolk

    alexanderfromsuffolk wrote:

     

    So iOS 8 will NEVER sort events correctly. It is not a bug. It is working as designed, because they designed it not to support events.

     

    iOS 8 does sort Events correctly.  As many in this thread have pointed out, pretty much every other app sees Events in the correct order.  It's just the Photos app that does not see Events in the correct order.

  • by lewin16,

    lewin16 lewin16 Oct 28, 2014 3:47 AM in response to mrbofus
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    Oct 28, 2014 3:47 AM in response to mrbofus

    Apart from the photos issue, Mac files items differently to Iphone.

    iTunes:  albums, any order you like on the Mac.  On the iPhone, not alphabetical but seems to be album release date order

    Contacts, some of ours are numbers (houses we rent out) not names.  Numerical on Mac, alphabetical numbers on iPhone.  1, 10, 100, before 2...

    Why?

  • by garymansell,

    garymansell garymansell Oct 28, 2014 4:37 AM in response to mrbofus
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    Oct 28, 2014 4:37 AM in response to mrbofus

    I have been using iPhone and iPhoto as a great photography solution for many years now and have been extremely happy with it... Up until now !!!

     

    Not being able to view your carefully organised Photos on your iPhone is a real deal breaker.

     

    As far as I am concerned there are two major issues here:

     

    1) Apple have just wantonly broken the existing iPhoto Event Sync'ing capability - this is a major regression and should never have been allowed to happen, even if they are designing a new Photo eco-system. People have bought these products on the basis of this capability and now it seems that Apple are cheating their customers. At the very least they should have warned customers so that they could consider their purchases knowing the facts.

     

    2) I am now extremely concerned about the future of the iPhone and the future Photos picture organisation capability - it seems clear that this is going to be "dumbed" down to Collections/Moments and Albums, which just would not suit a serious photography person's usage requirements.

     

    Apple, if you are listening, I really implore you to do something about fixing this. Surely you can understand that Photos are extremely important to people who use iPhones. You really need to listen to your customers - I find it amazing that there is no official response on something as major as this, just a corporate silence.

     

    Please fix this ASAP.

     

    Gary

  • by Lindadee3,

    Lindadee3 Lindadee3 Oct 28, 2014 5:22 AM in response to garymansell
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    Oct 28, 2014 5:22 AM in response to garymansell

    I heartily endorse this.  I just wish more would do so, to show Apple just how upset we all are, particularly, as you say, by the corporate silence. Please Apple, please go public on this matter so we know where we are.

  • by John Dorsey,

    John Dorsey John Dorsey Oct 28, 2014 5:35 AM in response to Lindadee3
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    Oct 28, 2014 5:35 AM in response to Lindadee3

    Reminder:  Apple doesn't read or tally these posts!  If you want them to hear you, go to http://www.apple.com/feedback/ and tell them what's on your mind.

     

    (Be polite!  Give reasons, explain why a sensible person would want to do it differently than what they have in mind for us - or why we should at least have a choice!)

  • by Lindadee3,

    Lindadee3 Lindadee3 Oct 28, 2014 5:42 AM in response to John Dorsey
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    Oct 28, 2014 5:42 AM in response to John Dorsey

    You are right. Apologies if I have gone on and on a little.  Will now send feedback in the proper way. But oh it would be so much simpler if someone would read the Forum as well. ..... as to that, are you reading this, I wonder? 

  • by rvp7777,

    rvp7777 rvp7777 Oct 28, 2014 7:16 AM in response to mrbofus
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    Oct 28, 2014 7:16 AM in response to mrbofus

    I posted here earlier and it is clear a fix is not imminent.  What I have begun to do is to create an album in iPhoto and the drag all the photos from an event into the album.  I can then manually sort the album which will sync nicely.  Not perfect but surely better than it is and perhaps in conformity with the next update.  Some guidance from Apple on the road map would be helpful.

  • by Harry468,

    Harry468 Harry468 Oct 31, 2014 1:31 AM in response to rvp7777
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    Oct 31, 2014 1:31 AM in response to rvp7777

    In 2005 I wanted to make a video with my windows pc. After several days of installing stuff, making many workarounds I was able to create an ugly video. In 2006 a friend of mine showed me his iMac and it was that easy to create a nice video. So I bought my first mac, and was able to concentrate to the real hobby instead of doing stupid IT-stuff.

     

    Now eight years later, it looks like, that the spirit of apple died with Steve Jobs. I have to spend hours and days of stupid things instead of doing my hobby. I just want to make photos, store and organize them onto a device, to be able to show them to my friends. But every time, I want to show photos, I search and search and my friend only laughes at me, because my expensive apple product is not able to that simple job.

     

    At the beginning of October, I've called the apple support and told them the bug. I've spoke to a senior, wrote him a mail with screenshots and the details of the issue. But the result was nothing, no feedback, no email, no call back. Last saturday I've called again the apple support and they promised me, that I will get a feedback on monday - now it is friday and again I've heard nothing. So much to say about customer satisfaction. It looks like that not only the photos are out of order - the support is out of order, too.

  • by dfeivelson,

    dfeivelson dfeivelson Oct 31, 2014 7:23 AM in response to Harry468
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    Oct 31, 2014 7:23 AM in response to Harry468

    Nnail on the head... hard to Believe one man made all the difference at such a huge company, but it's glaringly obvious.

     

    They also deleted my last post for telling it like it is.

  • by poorfisherman,

    poorfisherman poorfisherman Oct 31, 2014 7:43 AM in response to Harry468
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    Oct 31, 2014 7:43 AM in response to Harry468

    You used the correct description of the situation many people are facing.

     

    I am in the same situation, and I still hope Apple will be back on track solving this issue.

    At the moment I am using the Macbook and leave the pictures and faces there. Until a fix ix in place it is more or less impossible to navigate pictures on an IOS device.

     

    I still see the as a bug, not a wanted feature, please fix it Apple!

  • by Lindadee3,

    Lindadee3 Lindadee3 Oct 31, 2014 7:59 AM in response to poorfisherman
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    Oct 31, 2014 7:59 AM in response to poorfisherman

    I have to say that I agree with you. I was also banned from commenting. All  I was doing was repeating what everybody else said.  Apple won't listen.  However I have to say that I was given a magazine recently,  I think it was MacUser September , and I've just discovered that Apple did declare that they are doing away with iPhoto for Photos. If I had read the magazine before I bought my iPhone 6 Plus, I would not have bought the phone, I would have gone to Samsung.

  • by dfeivelson,

    dfeivelson dfeivelson Oct 31, 2014 8:08 AM in response to Lindadee3
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    Oct 31, 2014 8:08 AM in response to Lindadee3

    Like I said before in my post that got deleted...

     

    It's fine if they want to change the name of "iPhoto" to "Photos," to make iOS and OSX more consistent, but to break the sort order of the current Photos App when it worked fine before, and to do so months before the actual release of the iPhoto replacement is here, and make us just use a broken app in the meantime is absolute amateur garbage.

     

    They should and do know better, but they just don't care.

  • by Lindadee3,

    Lindadee3 Lindadee3 Oct 31, 2014 10:36 AM in response to dfeivelson
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    Oct 31, 2014 10:36 AM in response to dfeivelson

    But what can we do????   It seems we are shouting in the wilderness.  Not enough of us are complaining about it.  I am so so unhappy, I can't tell you. I compared my 6+ with the Galaxy S4 today and the photos were so much more manageable and editable.  But I love Apple and I really don't want to leave. I can't believe they have done this !!

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