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Q: Airplay peer-to-peer

I have been unable to get the new "Peer-to-Peer" airplay feature working.

 

The AppleTV website lists the following requirements:

 

"Peer-to-peer AirPlay requires a Mac device (2012 or later) running OS X 10.10 or an iOS device (2012 or later) running iOS 8 and an Apple TV third-generation rev A (model A1469) running Apple TV software 7.0."

 

I have an A1469 Apple TV as well as several ios and Mac devices that meet allo of the above requirements, yet none of them seem to be able to accomplish a peer-to-peer connection.  There is seemingly no option to enable or disable this feature in the most recent AppleTV software update.

 

Has any one had any luck getting peer-to-peer airplay to work, or is this feature just a myth?

iPhone 4S, iOS 8

Posted on Sep 18, 2014 7:31 AM

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  • by Woodwyn,

    Woodwyn Woodwyn Sep 21, 2014 12:56 PM in response to BillF
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    Sep 21, 2014 12:56 PM in response to BillF

    BI'll, did you disconnect the ATV and iPad/iPhone from any networks to see if it works? I found the exact same thing happened when my iPhone was connected to wifi and my ATV was connected to Ethernet. I turned off the wifi, and it worked perfectly. Not ideal, I know, but presumably this is an issue Apple will fix.

  • by BillF,

    BillF BillF Sep 21, 2014 1:21 PM in response to Woodwyn
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    Sep 21, 2014 1:21 PM in response to Woodwyn

    I have tried the peer to peer without any network connection, although, I had wifi on with my iphone and ipad. I do not believe you can turn off wifi on the ATV unit. I was told by AppleCare that you must have wifi enabled and bluetooth enabled in order to use peer to peer. I believe they messed up the software in some way.

  • by Woodwyn,

    Woodwyn Woodwyn Sep 21, 2014 3:40 PM in response to BillF
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    Sep 21, 2014 3:40 PM in response to BillF

    Right, you must have wifi enabled on both devices. if I wasn't clear I meant don't connect to a network. So, wifi on, not connected to a network, or the Internet. Whatever you may be logged into on your iPhone, "forget" It. i'm not sure you can forget a network on the ATV, but that may not matter. My ATV was connected to a network, but as soon as I disconnected from the network on the iPhone, peer to peer began working flawlessly. At least this way you know if the basic operation works without interference from outside networks. Is there a password to connect to your ATV? If so, you might want to turn that off for this exercise as well.

  • by BillF,

    BillF BillF Sep 21, 2014 4:27 PM in response to Woodwyn
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    Sep 21, 2014 4:27 PM in response to Woodwyn

    Thanks for that. I am still getting inconsistent results even trying what you did. Disconnecting from the network does work if I have already had a connection, however, going from a cold boot into using the devices fails. I have a feeling we will see some sort of software update. I am not sure we are seeing this work as intended yet.

  • by BillF,

    BillF BillF Sep 21, 2014 6:56 PM in response to BillF
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    Sep 21, 2014 6:56 PM in response to BillF

    I discovered a few things this evening. When I first hooked up my ATV I had it on a WIFI network. Even with forgetting the network and trying the reset, I still had trouble getting peer-to-peer to work.

     

    I found that after forgetting the network, I unplugged the unit. By doing so, it finally forgot the old WIFI network.

     

    I have the ATV on, not hooked up to any network.

    Bluetooth is turned on and searching.

    WIFI is searching for a network (you cannot turn it off)

    Airplay is turned on

     

    On the iPad I had forgot the wifi network.

    I turned wifi off

    I brought up the control center

    I turned on bluetooth first

    I then turned on wifi

    It takes a few seconds for the connection to form and then you will see the choice of Airplay and when you select it, it brings up the selection menu of where to play your media.

    It seems to work ok now.

    I also tested the iPad out with leaving the wifi network chosen, but the ATV was not connected. It still streamed video to the ATV

    The only funny business is streaming a podcast to the ATV. I got the "your ATV is not hooked up to a network" message. I duplicated this on the iPhone

    The iPhone worked the same way.

     

    The key it seemed for me was to completely power off the ATV and then bring it up unattached to anything. I think they should have a menu choice that allows yo to choose a null router choice for wifi.

     

    Anyway, progress. I am not sure what the deal is with the podcasts, but that is minor.

  • by Pastor Eric,

    Pastor Eric Pastor Eric Sep 23, 2014 8:59 AM in response to drrasch
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    Sep 23, 2014 8:59 AM in response to drrasch

    All .. I was beside myself with the whole Airplay peer to peer scenario.  I went out and bought an ATV 3gen rev A as my old one was 3rd gen only.  I downloaded iOS8 and just could not get it to work.  Got the new OS for my ATV.  It turned out when I swiped up on my iPad4, I did not see the mirror option under the ATV .. I had to SCROLL down to see it and there it was .. probably all along. 

     

    Unfortunately along the way, the journey was terrible.  I could not believe the number of Apple employees on the other end of the phone who did not have a clue on peer to peer and tried to argue with me that there was no such thing.  Then when I was distraught as I ASSUMED (bad me) that Yosemite would be out cuz .. well, of course I will have the upgrade to make my iCloud experience all it could be.  So, "yes" to switch my iCloud docs to the new regime.  Umm, not out for a couple of months.  Oops!  Then I "lost" my iCloud docs only to find out they are there but I just can't see then on my devices or in iCloud.com. 

     

    Enough ranting but ... wow, what a 5 day journey!

  • by Savage.Beauty,

    Savage.Beauty Savage.Beauty Sep 23, 2014 6:04 PM in response to drrasch
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    Sep 23, 2014 6:04 PM in response to drrasch

    Question: Has anyone been able to successfully mirror their *Mac* to AirPlay via peer-to-peer?

     

    I am able to mirror my iPhone (iOS8) to my recently-updated Apple TV without a problem, but my Mac will only work if it's plugged in to the same network via Ethernet. I ask because Apple says here that:

     

    Guests can AirPlay from their Mac or iOS device directly to your Apple TV (model A1469 or later) without connecting to your wireless network.

    … and I've never seen it work on a Mac. Does this require Yosemite perhaps? I have a Yosemite beta on an older (Late 2011?) MacBook Air, and Mavericks on a late 2013 Retina MacBook Pro, but neither are able to see the Apple TV unless hardwired to the same network. (Wifi doesn't work because I'm on a secure network which doesn't permit multicast DNS for discovery — which is precisely why I'm so excited about peer-to-peer.)

  • by m.siemens,

    m.siemens m.siemens Oct 5, 2014 11:41 AM in response to drrasch
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    Oct 5, 2014 11:41 AM in response to drrasch

    I tested with an brand new Apple TV (latest software) with iPhone 6 (8.0.2), iPad 3 (8.0.2) and iPad mini retina (7.1), none of the devices could find Apple TV peer-to-peer network. Even after I renamed the network, this function simply does not work!

  • by Woodwyn,

    Woodwyn Woodwyn Oct 5, 2014 11:47 AM in response to m.siemens
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    Oct 5, 2014 11:47 AM in response to m.siemens

    I Use this technology everyday, and it works flawllessly. I have four Apple TVs at work and one at home, and they all work.

     

    please provide the model number of your Apple TV. Also, confirm the software version your Apple TV is currently running and post here. Your iPad Mini will not work, as it too must be running 8.0.2 NOT  iOS 7.

     

    when you say you renamed the network, do you mean the Apple TV itself? Peer to Peer does not use a network.

  • by Talkrln,

    Talkrln Talkrln Oct 14, 2014 7:00 PM in response to drrasch
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    Oct 14, 2014 7:00 PM in response to drrasch

    step one. turn on Bluetooth for AppleTV

     

    step two. Turn on Wi-Fi and Bluetooth on your iOS device

     

    step three. restart your Apple TV.

     

    step four. Pull up your control panel on your iOS device and select AppleTV mirroring

     

    step five. Please let me know if this works for you. It took me about an hour of tinkering

    to figure out I had to just restart the AppleTV.

  • by Pastor Eric,

    Pastor Eric Pastor Eric Oct 15, 2014 1:39 AM in response to drrasch
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    Oct 15, 2014 1:39 AM in response to drrasch

    What got me for the LONGEST time is that on my iPad, the ATV would appear (hence it recognises it over the WIFI-less connection) but I could not get it to mirror.  I don't know what your issue is but with my iPad you had to scroll up to see the mirror option.  Just in case that is part of the issue.

  • by George Cassello,

    George Cassello George Cassello Oct 21, 2014 9:34 AM in response to Woodwyn
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    Oct 21, 2014 9:34 AM in response to Woodwyn

    This doesn't make sense to me. Peer to peer should not need wi-fi on whatsoever. It totally contradicts what peer to peer would be. How do you know its just not using the wi-ifi to airplay like it used to? I'm lost here.

  • by Talkrln,

    Talkrln Talkrln Oct 21, 2014 9:43 AM in response to George Cassello
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    Oct 21, 2014 9:43 AM in response to George Cassello

    because I have no home router. read my earlier response. It works for me on iphone 5s.

    it will not stream Internet video only what is on the phone.

  • by George Cassello,

    George Cassello George Cassello Oct 21, 2014 9:57 AM in response to drrasch
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    Oct 21, 2014 9:57 AM in response to drrasch

    Going by the page on the apple site,

     

    http://www.apple.com/airplay/

     

    It seems at though only guests, not connected to your home network can utilize peer to peer? Seems odd. Wouldn't  this be a great feature if you, yourself could send movie and such from your computer and iOS device using bluetooth or whatever it is that enables peer to peer capabilities instead of sucking up your wi-fi bandwidth doing so? I think thats what a lot of people were expecting when this feature was presented. I honestly don't see the use of this new feature. Its seems like its just air play mirroring which has been around for sometime. I'm pretty tech tech savvy but this one has me stumped. Sometimes apple present this big idea that really turns out to be nothing much and incredibly confusing to wrap your head around.

     

    Does anyone that has a real grasp on this explain what the true capabilities and usefulness of this feature are?

     

    Thanks all and good luck figuring this out.

     

    ~ G

  • by fdubois,

    fdubois fdubois Oct 21, 2014 3:15 PM in response to George Cassello
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    Oct 21, 2014 3:15 PM in response to George Cassello

    Hi George - I'm a college prof and would like to get to the point where I can go cable free in all my classrooms by using the ATV to mirror my laptop screen - I have a fantasy that one day I'll be able to just walk into class - flip open my laptop and my students will be able to see powerpoints slides, web sites or whatever I want to work with that day.  I've been mucking around with yosemite and apple TV and still can't get to to work though.  I'll keep my eyes on this site for a fix.  Frank

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