iOS 8 Wi-Fi problems

WI-Fi problems on iPad Air, iPad mini with Retina display and iPhone 5S after upgrading to iOS 8.

Typical results from OOKLA Speedtest before upgrade: Ping 17 ms, Upload 21 Mbps, Download 4.4 Mbps

Typical results after upgrade: Ping 39 ms, Download 2.9 Mbps, Upload 0.47 Mbps

iPad 2 with iOS 7.1.2 get 15 Mbps download and 4.4 upload on the same network.

Resetting network settings on the iOS 8 devices did not improve the performance.

Changing band on the router from 2.4 GHz to 5 GHz did give me back the speed on all devices.

However the speed occasonally drops on the iOS 8 devices, and the signal strengt can go from full til lost connection without moving the devices.

Also sometimes the Wi-Fi SweetSpots app report 0 mbps when the signal strenght is indicated as full and then suddenly go up to around 58 Mbps again.

It is almost like the device is trying to use cellular network that I do not have on the iPads before it suddenly switches back to Wi-fi nettwork again.

I am thinking about going back to my iPad 2 with iOS 7.1.2 that is working perfectly until the Wi-Fi issues are resolved.


Any help will be very much appreciated!

iPad Air Wi-Fi, iOS 8

Posted on Sep 20, 2014 9:17 AM

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Posted on Oct 21, 2014 3:16 PM

Ever since upgrading to IOS 8, including IOS 8.01, 8.02 and 8.1 I had the wellknown Wifi issue.

wifi speeds dropping from 120mbps to about 2mbps @ 5ghz in within a minute after connecting to the wifinetwork. often i couldn't even surf at all. but the wifi signal was always strong.

With every update i was hoping for a solution from Apple but it never came.


Tried everything that can be found on the internet.

Resetting the network settings.

Disabling "wifi networking" under Settings > Privacy > Location Services > System Services.

Reinstalling my Ipad from scratch

Used different routers and different setups.

Automatic ip's and fixed ip's and different dns servers just to be sure.

Nothing worked. The only workaround is switching to a 2.4Ghz network.


So i was doing some tests and found THE solution, but i don't like it all.

One of the biggest changes in IOS 8 is the ability to use airplay without a network. by using a wifi connection in combination with bluetooth.

And here lies the problem.

I disconnected al my Airplaydevices from my network. Denon AV-amplifier AVR2113, Pioneer wireless speaker XW SMA3 and an airport express.

Et voila... My Ipad is back to normal. fast... no very fast internet connection and stable as ****. Just like iOS 7 was.

Working with it for a couple of hours now without any trouble at all.

But do i connect one Airplay device to the network the wifi is not stable anymore and extremely slow again on my ipad air.

My Macbook running mac os x mavericks doesn't have these issues, neither does my iphone 5S. and they are also on the same 5ghz network.


So I can create and recreate the issue and create a work around... Apple please come with a solution that makes me able to use airplay an ipad (on ios8) on a 5ghz network! like in iOS 7!!!!

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Nov 5, 2014 7:37 AM in response to Briansyddall

I say this with no disrespect to the people who posted these suggestions, because I hope that everyone in here just want to help out, but;


All posts about buying new routers, upgrading firmware and factory resets / hard resets of iPhones/iPads beeing the solution to the problem, are all just missleading! I wish these people would read the entire thread, then they would actually see that as someone stated above "all fixes are BS".


There is now doubt that iOS8x introduced some sort of bug that affected WiFi and other functions. And that means its a bug that has to be fixed.

So we just have to wait for apple to take care of it, and when they do (and you are one of the people who bought at new router to fix the problem), you will probably have two fully functional routers and a little less money.


The post I would like to see now, is from someone who has installed the new iOS8.1.1 DeveloperBetaVersion released monday, and hear what they can report back about the WiFi problem. Any takers?

Nov 18, 2014 12:24 PM in response to nazarite99

If I recall, one of my first experiences with an iDevice was an iPhone years ago that couldn't join a network. I changed the SSID, the name that the router broadcasts, so that it did not contain any spaces. If your SSID has spaces (or special characters??) maybe you could remove them or change the name altogether and try again. I feel like I'm really reaching here, but of you've tried everything else, it might not hurt. Come to think, I ran into a similar issue on a Windows box a couple years back that (short story) "required" an SSID change at the router. I'm pretty sure I'm not making this stuff up. ; )

Nov 18, 2014 9:35 PM in response to Stanky

Thank you Stanky, that was badly needed......


As a developer for both previously mentioned platforms, I can guarantee you that there are an equal number of glaring problems on the other side of the fence.


As a side note, although the 8.1.1 update 'says' it's primarily for iPhone 4S and iPad, I can also guarantee you that it fixes a significant amount of WiFi issues on ALL IOS 8 devices, including the 6 and 6 Plus. I personally worked with Apple on two specific issues, and continue to do so.


One thing everybody should keep in mind: none of these mobile platforms will EVER be bug-free! The systems are far too complex, and it is literally impossible to test them 100% (not enough monkeys in the universe to get that done). Granted, these bugs were a bit more obvious and should have been caught, but every OS out there has issues like this from time to time. One thing's for sure, these bugs ARE being addressed.


As an example, just check out 'audio latency problems' on the 'other' platform. Bug initially filed in 2009..... not fixed yet......

Nov 20, 2014 7:29 PM in response to Delid4ve

****, really? This is the weirdest issue. There's nothing consistent about anything other than the symptoms. My network has a router/firewall, an Asus N56U in the basement. This has wifi as well and I didn't have severe problems when connecting with ios8. But because it's in the basement, I have weak signal in the rest of the house. So I had the Linksys access pt on the first floor on Ethernet connection to the router. The wifi problem was severe with the Linksys. I'd get the wifi freeze every few minutes. Now I have a bunch of SSIDs all being served up by Asus equipment on 5ghz and 2.4 ghz and I have almost no problems with any of them. Occasionally I notice a little wifi weirdness...like once every couple days or so. But it's drastically better.


This is going to be a tough fix...

Nov 28, 2014 4:48 PM in response to macfanta

There should be no reason to change router settings that work for all non IOS 8 devices. If Apple is going to make a product that does not connect to routers on default settings, they will lose 80% of their market. Most people are barely able to configure something other than the default password on their routers, let alone adjust settings randomly until the wifi starts working for one of 20 devices in the house. If TVs, Blu Rays, Android Phones, Android Tables, IOS 7 iPads, IOS 7 iPods, wifi thermostat, Surface Tablet, and Laptops all connect without any issues - the issue is NOT the router settings.

Nov 29, 2014 12:32 PM in response to Crystianne

OK then let I clarify my situation for you.


Imagine I'm now Crystianne (a lucky you) and call to a imaginary help center and had a support from a good man called Macfanta.


I tell Mr.Macfanta that a certain night I started the iOS 8 update, leave it finishing and went to sleep.


Next morning I woke up and tried to read my emails but the iPad tell I lost the connection to internet.


Well, I tried the 2,4GHz SSID and was all fine (my router has simultaneously dual band wi-fi).


from now this story have a happy or a sad ending.


The happy ending: Mr.Macfanta encourage me to check router settings, I find that I made some changes on location settings. I turn to router default values and made a boot on router. After this procedure the 5GHz band was functioning as always do. I'm very happy and go to share the solution at Apple Discussions forum.


The sad ending: I tell to Macfanta I'll not move any thumb to search the solution and will wait for another unsuccesful update (because your router still remain with changed default value) and will remain without internet (or without the fastest 5GHz and go to Apple Discussion reclaim faster internet after iOS update). I'm so sad and will remain at Apple Discussion thread like a ghost rider.


* * *


I pick the happy ending 😎


This is my testimony. I really found a fast solution after read a post made by AD member called gazole Re: Re: iPad Air WiFi (5GHz) issues after iOS 8 upgrade


In my case the vilan was the router.

Dec 24, 2014 8:29 AM in response to danyboy2012

That would definitely fall under a vendor issue, however it gets a bit complicated as the phone is provided by the carrier and serviced by the vendor "Apple".

It's the Apple update that's broken the wifi functionality, the carrier will disclaim all responsibility and push it onto either you or Apple.

Apple in turn will probably push it back on the carrier, and it will continue to spin until the ultimate heat death of the universe.

Unfortunately there's no easy way to obtain, or reload the 7x firmware since Apple is no longer signing that revision.

Jailbreaking the phone would be necessary, and DMCA forbids that.


Technically there is NO solution, unless Apple fixes their firmware.

That may take a while

Dec 26, 2014 6:32 AM in response to mrsjoyner

Guys for weeks I had experienced problems with both my MacBook and iOS 8.2 kept loosing connection.


The changes I made may not cure all, but all I can report is that it has worked for me.


I asked BT to supply me with a new infinity Router because disabling the 5GHz WIFI option only worked for short periods of time and my wife PC was also starting to have network issues.


Having received and installed the new router and disabled the 5GHz setting and all my devices are now okay, and have been for some weeks.


As I say this worked for me, it may or may not work for you

Dec 31, 2014 8:12 AM in response to London Lad

London Lad,


I could not agree with you more. Unfortunately I was not able to read your original post before Apple deleted it. However I did read the article in the post by Procyon 256 above, found it quite interesting, and decided to test some of the theories for myself. For instance the article states "To reproduce on 8.1.1, turn AirDrop On and begin a speed test. On a secondary device, open the Photos App, choose a photo, and press the action icon at the bottom left. You’ll see the WiFi severely degrade." I tried this on my iPhone using my iPad as the secondary device and as Mr. Ciabarra states my Wi-Fi performance was indeed degraded. I ran 3 speed tests (OOKLA) with an average speed of 15.2 Mbps on a nominally 15 Mbps ISP connection. I then repeated the 3 tests as Ciabarra indicates (and so there is no confusion I did not transfer the picture, just simply selected it on the Photos App and paused). My Wi-Fi speed average (3 tests again) went down to 9.1. This is not as bad as I have seen, as I have reported before we own 4 iOS devices and we have seen speeds as low as 0.01 Mbps (more typically the degrading is down to 1 Mbps or so). This problem is transient (lasts for 1 to 12 hours) and is not caused by the ISP, router, Apps or any other issue other than iOS 8. As I also reported, AppleCare Level 2 spent the better part of 2 days with me on this and could not resolve, concluded that it is indeed an iOS 8 issue.


Could you do me a favor? Even though Apple may delete it again could you repost your message? I would like to read it.


Also regarding your statement about "idiots", the bottom dwellers are those who insist that the problems are caused by the users themselves due to their own ignorance, their gear, their old Apps (because they don't take the time to update them), their settings and their ridiculous expectations. As they say in London, poppycock, and as we more crudely say in Texas, bulls---

Jan 4, 2015 3:03 PM in response to E-2043

Thought I'd chime in here too.


I have 7 mac wifi connected devices here - 2 x iPhone 5s (ios 8), new MacBook Pro Retina (10.10), Mac mini 2012 (10.9), MacBook Pro 2011 (10.9), iPhone 4 (iOS 7), iPad mini retina (iOS 8). Also have Aiport Extreme (WPA2 and latest firmware) that handles all the wifi in bridge mode to a cisco router (wifi disabled) that does the cable internet to my ISP. Also have an airport express that extends the airport network.


All my iOS 8 devices (2 x iPhone 5s and iPad) run like a friggin dog on wifi - but curiously, not on all apps. Web browsing etc, seriously, it's useless trying to download anything. Browse imgur? Forget it. How about some Reddit and a few cat gifs? No way. After 30 secs of trying to load, I give up. I'm getting no better than 53KB/s on the iOS devices via wifi - yet, I can get 485KB/s through a crappy 3G signal from my telco on the same device.


Let's say that again to be really, really clear - 53KB/s on iOS 8 devices. Best I could get was 61KB/s.


Airport Utility tells me my signal for the iOS 8 device is "excellent" (1.5 meters from Airport Extreme, same distance as MacBook Pro Retina): Data Rate: 135Mb/s, RSSI: -58 dBm, Mode: 802.11n (5 GHz), Speed: 53KB/s.


My Macbook Pro Retina at same distance: Data Rate: 450Mb/s, RSSI: -52 dBm, Mode: 802.11n (5 GHz), Speed: 385KB/s.


All other the macs download (from the same wifi) at around 385KB/s on average.


Yes, I have spent days, literally days, trying to solve this *&^$#. I've tried every 'solution' mentioned in here and elsewhere, including but not limited to, DNS, WPA, Channels, Frequencies, Network Reset, Disabling Some Settings, Location Settings, Airdrop, Airplane Mode, Hard Resets, Factory Reset, Back Restore and more apart from jailbreaking (which I'm pretty tempted to do at the moment). To be clear, I have also used the Cisco router as wifi and get the exact same speeds through that wifi too, so this is not a router issue as far as I'm concerned.


I even went so far as to turn off everything electrical here (that was possible) and had only one iPhone 5s iOS 8 connected to the Airport router - no change in download speeds. Tried another router, one device connected, same result. So interference is not an issue I feel, nor is network traffic.


That some people have found solutions, is great, I'm jealous and pretty frustrated. However, my personal and experienced opinion - there is still something very very wrong with ios 8.


My results? My macs and iPhone 4 run through the wifi no problem. iOS 8 devices? Rubbish, worse than terrible. I'm actually embarrassed for Apple really.


The moniker of "it just works" is technically true, the wifi works, it's just rubbish. This does actually effect my business through lost productivity and increased costs as a result. Sustainable?


I was patient through the early iOS 8 updates, but a line has to be drawn. Apple - are you listening?


Fix this.

Jan 7, 2015 2:08 PM in response to tbirdvet

I had an old Linksys WRT54G that worked with everything including the IPhone 5s and everything else I have that is Android. I received an Air2 for Christmas and the thing wouldn't connect or it would for a few seconds at a time really slow and then drop out. Since the router is ancient, I went to Wally World and bought an ASUS RT-AC68R and BOOM, it connected no problem and fast. I'm definitely no techie so I left all the router settings to whatever the default was except for the SSID and password part.

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