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Q: iOS 8 Wi-Fi problems

WI-Fi problems on iPad Air, iPad mini with Retina display and iPhone 5S after upgrading to iOS 8.

Typical results from OOKLA Speedtest before upgrade: Ping 17 ms, Upload 21 Mbps, Download 4.4 Mbps

Typical results after upgrade: Ping 39 ms, Download 2.9 Mbps, Upload 0.47 Mbps

iPad 2 with iOS 7.1.2 get 15 Mbps download and 4.4 upload on the same network.

Resetting network settings on the iOS 8 devices did not improve the performance.

Changing band on the router from 2.4 GHz to 5 GHz did give me back the speed on all devices.

However the speed occasonally drops on the iOS 8 devices, and the signal strengt can go from full til lost connection without moving the devices.

Also sometimes the Wi-Fi SweetSpots app report 0 mbps when the signal strenght is indicated as full and then suddenly go up to around 58 Mbps again.

It is almost like the device is trying to use cellular network that I do not have on the iPads before it suddenly switches back to Wi-fi nettwork again.

I am thinking about going back to my iPad 2 with iOS 7.1.2 that is working perfectly until the Wi-Fi issues are resolved.

 

Any help will be very much appreciated!

iPad Air Wi-Fi, iOS 8

Posted on Sep 20, 2014 9:17 AM

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  • by Riddick187,

    Riddick187 Mar 11, 2015 9:05 AM in response to AlexWhit
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    Mar 11, 2015 9:05 AM in response to AlexWhit

    Ow by the way I work ECT......  electronic computer technician.... Any more bright ideas Einstein?

  • by AlexWhit,

    AlexWhit AlexWhit Mar 11, 2015 9:16 AM in response to Riddick187
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    Mar 11, 2015 9:16 AM in response to Riddick187

    only asking as if you know how IP works you cant just put in an ip6 dns address without the rest of the bits that go along with it. Ip address, Subnet mask, gateway, your DNS. 

     

     

    also as you do like to read up i did try your "fix" and it was the same, no noticeable speed increase,  still dripping wifi. 

     

    without the ipv6 addresses what is there to route via your router? 

     

    granted the "fix" may have worked for you but a lot of "fixes" have worked for other people.  you seem to be the one that is insisting on yours being the one that works.

  • by Riddick187,

    Riddick187 Mar 11, 2015 9:31 AM in response to AlexWhit
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    Mar 11, 2015 9:31 AM in response to AlexWhit

    so you ran a DNS benchmark speedtest on your laptop? are the two fastest DNS servers installed in both the router and wifi primary and secondary DNS? Then use the ipv6 for your iphone and ipad and ipods... I use the ipv6 on a old iPhone 2.... Second iphone released... Released in 2009.... And it helps that old unit also... I cant help you if you didnt follow ALL my directions.... You cant only do half.... Then not do the other and complain it dont work... Have you ever run a DNS benchmark??? .....  Never said this was fix.... Only performance enhancement... Ive never not see it work when done correctly... Others posted it helped a few pages ago.... What do you have to lose? 5 minutes? Maybe it helps... If not you lost nothing... If you do it right it will help...

  • by Riddick187,

    Riddick187 Mar 11, 2015 9:48 AM in response to AlexWhit
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    Mar 11, 2015 9:48 AM in response to AlexWhit

    And one more thing... This never fixed an issue for me... I never had a wifi issue... I jumped in to say what setting i use... Only problem i EVER had was installing a 3rd gen Apple tv... then my network went all to ****...  loss of signal... Slow to respond... Slow speeeds then fast again... I tried both wifi channels on the Apple tv... Nothing fixed the network untill i installed a internet cable to both Apple tv's... Now the airplay button stops appearing and disappearing on my ipad mini and iphone 6 plus all the time.. I pull up the control panel and it slides over and is there every time now. Now I have consistent and stable network. I only had one issue when I installed an Apple TV.

     

    my network works just fine and then I decided one day to improve the performance by making sure I had all the possible best settings that I could have... So after a few days of figuring out what settings couldn't could not be used I figured out the devices would except a IPv6 address in the Apple device...  It doesn't prove performance if you dont set up your system correctly...

  • by OrbitMan,

    OrbitMan OrbitMan Mar 11, 2015 9:56 AM in response to Riddick187
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    Mar 11, 2015 9:56 AM in response to Riddick187

    Funny, electronic computer technician... then your internet connection must run off the back wheel of a bicycle LOL.

  • by Riddick187,

    Riddick187 Mar 11, 2015 10:15 AM in response to OrbitMan
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    Mar 11, 2015 10:15 AM in response to OrbitMan

    My Internet and iPhone work perfectly!!! How about yours!!! ROFL.... Make all the assumptions you want... You see what you make yourself with the first the letters of that word... Don't Bother me none... My system works!! LOL!!! My iPhone works.... My Apple TV works... AirPlay works... On iPhone and iPad mini.... your network worked before you touched it Einstein... Enjoy all your wifi problems.... Must be the user... I never had any problems... Hahahaha

  • by OrbitMan,

    OrbitMan OrbitMan Mar 11, 2015 10:34 AM in response to Riddick187
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    Mar 11, 2015 10:34 AM in response to Riddick187

    I have no WiFi issues with any apple device i own, never did. Don't know what you are ranting on about all the time. You seem to use the word "assumptions" alot, you must really like what those letters spell out LOL. I like many others on here want to congratulate you on your annoying posts about sweet nothing. p.s. your bicycle needs fixing LOL

     

  • by London Lad,

    London Lad London Lad Mar 11, 2015 12:25 PM in response to E-2043
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    Mar 11, 2015 12:25 PM in response to E-2043

    Well I've had enough of this. That's another ios update that hasn't addressed the wi-fi bug so after having iphones since the first week they were released sadly I'm giving up and off to Android. Apple you need to listen to your customer. This has now hit the international press in a number of countries.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 11, 2015 1:49 PM in response to Riddick187
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    Mar 11, 2015 1:49 PM in response to Riddick187

    Riddick187 wrote:

     

    My Internet and iPhone work perfectly!!! How about yours!!! ROFL.... Make all the assumptions you want... You see what you make yourself with the first the letters of that word... Don't Bother me none... My system works!! LOL!!! My iPhone works.... My Apple TV works... AirPlay works... On iPhone and iPad mini.... your network worked before you touched it Einstein... Enjoy all your wifi problems.... Must be the user... I never had any problems... Hahahaha

    If you have no interest in helping others why are you here?

     

    Hahahahahah

  • by Riddick187,

    Riddick187 Mar 11, 2015 1:56 PM in response to Csound1
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    Mar 11, 2015 1:56 PM in response to Csound1

    Well you and others like you jump in 10 posts ina conversation and ask whats going on... i dont start with them until they atart with me... I will be posting... And they jump in a conversation and run their pie hole... Asking questions before they tried... Im here to help. I dont have wifi issues... Was telling users what setting i use and what i do... But they want to rant on me before they test what they are posting they dont get... Well test and find out... Then tell my my Bicycle wheels are loose... So before you jump in asking what I'm doing here with my comments..... you go back a few pages and see what started it all... Get some integrity.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 11, 2015 1:58 PM in response to Riddick187
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    Mar 11, 2015 1:58 PM in response to Riddick187

    Hahahahahahhahahah

     

    Sorry, all  see is you laughing at others

  • by ajlewis1851,

    ajlewis1851 ajlewis1851 Mar 11, 2015 2:36 PM in response to Riddick187
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    Mar 11, 2015 2:36 PM in response to Riddick187

    You are clearly at the point that helping is not priority one coming back to this discussion thread. Go outside, play with your friends, and let others help each other solve this iOS issue.

     

     

    Have a wonderful day, and play safe.

  • by pegaudet,

    pegaudet pegaudet Mar 11, 2015 5:04 PM in response to E-2043
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    Mar 11, 2015 5:04 PM in response to E-2043

    Hi all (or whoever hasn't given up on this thread due to the rash of less than constructive posts lately).....

     

    Like many, I was asked to install a wifi log diagnostic tool (for the music player app airplay related issues). Anyway, I thought I'd have another look at analyzing the log files for this issue (which, I don't seem have, maybe because I don't have a lot on my phone. or maybe my neighbour has a cellphone frequency jammer at just the right power level to confuse my phone.. or maybe I live under a multidimensional vortex or something).

     

    After a good glance up and down my log files, I saw this (items of interest in bold):

     

    03/11/15 19:07:05.831 <NOTICE>: Client itunesstored set type to normal application

    03/11/15 19:07:05.831 <NOTICE>: __WiFiManagerSetEnableState: state TRUE, manager->enable.setting TRUE, manager->unlockedSinceBoot TRUE

    03/11/15 19:07:05.832 <NOTICE>: BG Application: Not Present, BG Daemon: Present. Daemons: assistantd networkd

    03/11/15 19:07:06.423 <NOTICE>: Client apsd set type to background application

    03/11/15 19:07:06.423 <NOTICE>: __WiFiManagerSetEnableState: state TRUE, manager->enable.setting TRUE, manager->unlockedSinceBoot TRUE

    03/11/15 19:07:06.423 <NOTICE>: BG Application: Not Present, BG Daemon: Present. Daemons: assistantd networkd apsd

    03/11/15 19:07:06.424 <NOTICE>: Already connected to XXXXXXXXX.

    03/11/15 19:07:06.424 <ERROR>: Enable WoW requested by "apsd"

    03/11/15 19:07:06.425 <NOTICE>: WoW Capable = YES, Attempting to enable WoW and disable LPAS

    03/11/15 19:07:06.425 <NOTICE>: Setting WoW params to <dictionary> {

      IO80211InterfaceEnableLowPwrAssocMode : FALSE

      IO80211InterfaceEnableWoW : TRUE

    }

    03/11/15 19:07:06.426 <NOTICE>: WiFiDeviceRequestAssociatedSleep: ActiveDuringSleepRequested is already set (<dictionary> {

    }).

    03/11/15 19:07:06.426 <ERROR>: Unable to dispatch WowStateChanged message to client MobileMail (268435460)

    03/11/15 19:07:06.427 <ERROR>: Unable to dispatch WowStateChanged message to client dataaccessd (268435460)

    03/11/15 19:07:06.427 <ERROR>: Unable to dispatch WowStateChanged message to client softwareupdatese (268435460)

    03/11/15 19:07:06.428 <ERROR>: Unable to dispatch WowStateChanged message to client itunesstored (268435460)

    03/11/15 19:07:06.428 <ERROR>: Unable to dispatch WowStateChanged message to client assistantd (268435460)

    03/11/15 19:07:06.429 <ERROR>: Unable to dispatch WowStateChanged message to client dataaccessd (268435460)

    03/11/15 19:07:06.429 <NOTICE>: WoW Enabled by 1 Clients, lpas is Disabled

    03/11/15 19:07:06.429 <NOTICE>: apsd[83] is a wow client

    03/11/15 19:07:06.429 <NOTICE>: WoW is Enabled, 1 WoW Clients

    03/11/15 19:07:07.085 <NOTICE>: _wifi_manager_start_browsing_for_service: client discoveryd, key size 56

     

    Something else too I found was periodic entries saying "Already connected to XXXXXXXXX" (XXXXXXX is my SSID) so it seems that something on the phone is checking something on the internet to find out it's still connected to wifi. If it's connecting every few minutes, it could be keeping the phone connected to the wifi network.

     

    From what I could find, apsd is the part of ios that manages push notifications. I'm thinking it may be possible that I have one or more apps (twitter for example) that is telling iOS it wants to receive and which is allowed to receive push notifications, but being twitter in this case, may be checking often enough that it is keeping the connection going. I also allow a number of apps to run in the background as well. A scan through logs I had from several weeks ago seem to show that apsd and wow only show up at times when I am home and connected to wifi (I only connect to my home wifi).

     

    I have airdrop and bluetooth enabled along with 3 airplay devices and apple tv.

     

    One thing I did notice which is pretty annoying and doesn't address the topic of this thread, the list of airplay devices gets constantly reset (when I lock the screen for some time for example) and it takes many long seconds (sometimes 30 seconds and the impression I need a bit of hoodoo-voodoo ritual magic at times to get it to see the very airplay device i want to use).

     

    In my case, it may not be dropping the wifi connection, but it does seem to be quick to forget what is on the network.

     

    Not sure if anybody else who has this problem and has the wifi diagnostic tool installed can compare results with mine (like the bold items from my log file for example)...  The "ActiveDuringSleepRequested" seems a bit too close to the problem for me.

  • by Clps1157,

    Clps1157 Clps1157 Mar 11, 2015 6:44 PM in response to Riddick187
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    Mar 11, 2015 6:44 PM in response to Riddick187

    RIddick, Jesus. Let it go. You are more interested in your own self importance than you are helpful. It's embarrassing, and your lack of maturity and relentless insistance that you have the fix is very annoying.

  • by Stanky,

    Stanky Stanky Mar 11, 2015 7:57 PM in response to Riddick187
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    Mar 11, 2015 7:57 PM in response to Riddick187

    Riddick187 wrote:

     

    HHahahaha don't try it... Make all the assumptions you want... I guess you will just wait for a iOS update... You are not here to try any ideas... Ones that help performance... Don't test it... you don't deserve the knowledge... Science is experimentation and observation. From all your rants.. I'm guessing you don't test it.... I'm guessing you didn't follow all my directions or none at all. Then jump in and you don't understand how it can work ... Well others posted a few pages ago from others... They say it helps... But unlike you... They didn't make assumptions... Then tested it... So then they would know what they are talking about... It's called integrity... Get some.

     

    Do you enjoy being a complete idiot, because it sure looks that way?  Just about everyone on the board thinks you're a jacka**, but you continue to spew your ipv6 bs, when that has nothing to do with the problem many people are experiencing... and the academy award for biggest ignorant a-hole goes to (drumbeat)... Riddick187!  BTW, an iOS update is the only thing that will actually fix the problem, you idiot.

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