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Q: iPhone 6 not counting flights of stairs

Isn't iPhone6 meant to track flight of stairs climbed? Health app showing steps but not flights. Anyone else noticed this ?

Posted on Sep 20, 2014 4:33 PM

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  • by Taddd,

    Taddd Taddd Sep 26, 2014 7:18 AM in response to simlid
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    Sep 26, 2014 7:18 AM in response to simlid

    I am using an iPhone 6 and iOS8.0.0.  After having the phone for several days I turned on the individual Show-On-Dashboard items for Steps, Flights Climbed, and Walking+Running Distance.  A day later I had data on all three.  Flights climbed was 14 at the start.  I went to look at the data.  It appears to have recorded one entry of 14 flights.  I delete that entry and then went up and down my steps at home several times.  No counts.  The next day I noticed that it had recorded a data entry of 1 flight at the beginning of my work day when I arrived at our 3 story building.  My office is on the 2nd story.  At lunch it added another flight of stairs.  I went to the stair well and walked down a flight, then up two flights.  It recorded two separate data points with 1 flight each at that time.  It didn't show up for a while.  I looked immediately after doing the two flights and it didn't show and then several hours later I noticed that it had counted those flights as two separate data points at the same time-stamp. 

    I went home and did my home stairs 3 times.  After 24 hours it still hasn't noticed those. 

     

    I suspect the machine needs the commercial flight height in order to work.  Perhaps the engineers in California all live in ranch houses and work in commercial multi-story buildings?  I've seen weirder software bugs. 

     

    I just now updated to 8.0.2    If I get new data that is unique to this thread I will post again. 

       Tadd

  • by KVB71,

    KVB71 KVB71 Sep 26, 2014 7:24 AM in response to simlid
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    Sep 26, 2014 7:24 AM in response to simlid

    I haven't really tried yet. Just got my + yesterday. I use a fitbit, so I was really hoping that information would pull into the health app. I guess it will eventually?

  • by David@Jidō,

    David@Jidō David@Jidō Sep 26, 2014 8:39 AM in response to simlid
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    Sep 26, 2014 8:39 AM in response to simlid

    OK so i've been testing this with iOS 8.0.2 and guess what? Its now worse than 8.0.0. Before I was quite impressed with the stairs tracking, even though I get the impression that American flights are higher than in the UK because for every 4 flights I climb, it only records 3. Users should definitely be able to calibrate this stuff themselves, or is a flight of stairs now an international unit?

     

    Anyway, since updating, i've been up 12 flights of stairs of which 4 were registered. So I tested it and walked another 4 flights of which none were registered. So, I decided to manually add 2 flights of steps and the total only increased by 1.

     

    Sensors like this are supposed to be fool proof and robust, and i'm sure Apple engineers are fully capable of handling the data coming out of them, so what on earth is going on here? I hope they sort this out soon because for the first time ever (apart from a few minor glitches) I have a piece of apple hardware that feels like i've dropped it in the sea.

  • by Taddd,

    Taddd Taddd Sep 26, 2014 9:49 AM in response to David@Jidō
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    Sep 26, 2014 9:49 AM in response to David@Jidō

    If you add 2 flights and it only shows 1, then I think you have identified a problem.

     

    American stair flights are not consistent.  My wild guess is that you will find flights of 8 to 20 feet depending on the building. 

     

    I don't think they can afford to have the flight-height be adjustable per-phone as this would corrupt the meaning of the result.  Perhaps they could have done something specific, like 10s of feet of climb or something.

     

    Is there a sensor monitor app that shows the raw values from the barometer?

     

    How does this thing know we are not jogging in an elevator? 

     

    Just wondering. 

       Tadd 

  • by simlid,

    simlid simlid Sep 26, 2014 11:10 AM in response to Taddd
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    Sep 26, 2014 11:10 AM in response to Taddd

    A day on with the new update and still the same issues here, the tracking of flights climbed seems wildly inaccurate. Having completed many stair climbs now with the phone in different positions, status (screen on, off, health app open or closed) it doesn't seem to make any difference which leads me back to HW or SW calibration as a potential cause.

     

    Taddd, in response to your question, my understanding is that this (according to the keynote) would look at pressure using the barometer and be able to calculate. Have not seen any other app yet that just shows raw activity but of course with health kit being open again now maybe we will see something soon.

     

    If these units cannot be re-calibrated then maybe at least a doc stating how they were configured so we understood and could test. Something like, calibrated on a rise of 12' from start to finish = 1 flight or rise in altitude from x to x, something. I know for reference the flights I climb (getting way to technical for such a simple thing ) are approx 14' between floors, surely that would be enough to count as 1 flight of stairs ?

     

    Hopefully we get some answers on this one soon and its a simple fix/understanding

  • by Wolfgang S.,

    Wolfgang S. Wolfgang S. Sep 27, 2014 8:18 AM in response to simlid
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    Sep 27, 2014 8:18 AM in response to simlid

    I had the same problem that nothing was recorded and that no data source ( the iPhone itself) was registered in the section for flight of stairs.

    After a soft reset it starts working!

     

    ps  Maybe the reason was that I did a restore from my 5s to the iPhone 6.

  • by Umarwadia,

    Umarwadia Umarwadia Sep 27, 2014 12:23 PM in response to simlid
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    Sep 27, 2014 12:23 PM in response to simlid

    You are right, stairs was near spot on with 8.0 and it's gotten worse with 8.0.2 where I will go up 50 stairs and it will report 1 floor.

  • by Umarwadia,

    Umarwadia Umarwadia Sep 28, 2014 2:18 PM in response to simlid
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    Sep 28, 2014 2:18 PM in response to simlid

    Since the stairs app only appears to record "whole" flights (smallest is 1 no fractions/decimals like in distance), I was also wondering if 2 half flights equal 1 flight or do you have to do a minimum of one flight at one time to get a recording.

  • by _Eric_,

    _Eric_ _Eric_ Sep 29, 2014 6:49 AM in response to simlid
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    Sep 29, 2014 6:49 AM in response to simlid

    I Walked up four flights today so far, and it only recorded the first two. Why is it skipping floors?

  • by emanon256,

    emanon256 emanon256 Sep 29, 2014 7:14 AM in response to _Eric_
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    Sep 29, 2014 7:14 AM in response to _Eric_

    So I have noticed a few things. My stars at work have only 8 steps and no matter how many times I go up it never counts anything. My stars at home have a landing after 9 steps and I stop to open the gate, then go up the final 3. It never counts either of these. I am thinking it must require a specific number of steps all at once to count as a flight. Any breaks in the step count and nothing is recorded.

     

    On another note, I walked up a hill and it counted it as several flights of stairs.

  • by _Eric_,

    _Eric_ _Eric_ Sep 29, 2014 7:28 AM in response to emanon256
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    Sep 29, 2014 7:28 AM in response to emanon256

    I Have 15 steps from the first floor to the second, in my house. No landng.

  • by simlid,

    simlid simlid Sep 29, 2014 9:57 AM in response to _Eric_
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    Sep 29, 2014 9:57 AM in response to _Eric_

    For reference, 16 in mine on 1 floor and 15 on the other. Still hit and miss. Just did the stairs 10 times (purposefully stopping between each climb for 3 minutes, just to let phone catch up if it would). Only counted 3 flights even with the pause. Tried this a combination of ways again detailed below for reference:

     

    Phone in pocket speaker up (towards opening of pocket) health app open, phone on

    Phone in pocket speaker up (towards opening of pocket) health app open, phone off

    Phone in pocket speaker up (towards opening of pocket) another app open (mail), phone on

    Phone in pocket speaker up (towards opening of pocket) another app open (mail), phone off

     

    then did the same 4 tests but with home button up in pocket

    and finally the same tests again but with phone in hand

     

    Nothing seemed to influence the accuracy or recordability (for want of a better word) of this data.

  • by tonymarcus,

    tonymarcus tonymarcus Sep 29, 2014 4:12 PM in response to simlid
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    Sep 29, 2014 4:12 PM in response to simlid

    To EclecticAgent,

     

    How did you change your walking distance from Kilometres to Miles, I'd like to change mine to miles but can't see any settings to change in the Heath app or settings menu.

     

    Thanks

     

    Tony

  • by Alkor_apple,

    Alkor_apple Alkor_apple Oct 1, 2014 7:22 AM in response to simlid
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    Oct 1, 2014 7:22 AM in response to simlid

    I'm not having any luck with my iphone 6, tried already upgrading to 8.0.2, soft reset, hard reset going back to factory default and restoring afterwards, and after a few days waiting, the Health app keeps not tracking anything or even storing any data (i.e. manually input weight).

    Hardware is ok, as other apps such as Argus os Sleep Cycle track steps and sleep well, and after restoring to factory default, the app works as well tracking steps (didn't check flights), but whenever I restore a backup from my old iphone 5S, the app stop gathering any data.

     

    Unless anyone has any other suggestion, I guess I just need to wait for a fix at some point.

     

    Thanks for the feedback!

    Alan

  • by Taddd,

    Taddd Taddd Oct 1, 2014 8:53 AM in response to Alkor_apple
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    Oct 1, 2014 8:53 AM in response to Alkor_apple

    I'm not having the problem you are having.  I have a different issue with my iphone 6.  It seems to corrupt its settings.

    Regarding your problem, May I suggest you contact Apple?  You have an obviously brand new product and you get free support on it.  If you go to this link and then look for iPhone hardware and on-line chat, they will take your information and if they can't give you an easy fix they'll make a schedule with you to telephone you.  Please tell us what they say.

     

    http://www.apple.com/support/contact/

     

    Thanks.

       Tadd

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