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Jan 2, 2015 12:42 PM in response to James Barberby bdomer,I did find a way to work around this issue until they can fix it... when entering an appointment on my iPhone or iPad right after I tap add I open the appointment up then tap edit. The time will show as GMT time so I change the time to what I want it to actually be then I toggle the all day switch on and back off and the time shows in the correct time zone.
I have tested this many times and once I switch the all day on then off it works fine and the GMT bug does not affect the appointment.
I too am gonna call customer support to share this with them... Maybe it will help come up with a solution!
Others please try this and see if you have the same result and let us know.
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Jan 2, 2015 12:50 PM in response to borg22222by JG in SB,LOL Nobody posts back to inform us that the "fix that worked for them" actually didn't work after all People are very fast to show up here, not read anything, claim they have a miracle fix for this that is really easy....and that somehow none of us who have been working on this issue for months have identified, but then they are a lot slower to come back and say "oh yeah, I noticed five minutes later that all the GMT tags showed up again." It's like that guy you know that always tells you when he makes money on a stock....but somehow never tells you when he loses money.....
Or they will claim that they found a "fix" and that all that you need to do is go back and edit every single appointment in your calendar manually.....eight steps at a time. That's what Android users would consider a "fix." That's not a fix any more than repainting your house is a "fix" for defective paint that you used the first time.
There is no fix folks. That's the sad truth. The "fix" is going to come from Apple, when they fix their buggy code. And based on recent updates from couple of guys on here who have been working this hard through Apple upper level tech support, I am optimistic the real fix will be here in a few weeks.
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Jan 2, 2015 12:43 PM in response to borg22222by bdomer,Check out my post I just put on and let me know if it works for you.
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Jan 2, 2015 12:44 PM in response to bdomerby JG in SB,@bdomer: that should work fine until your phone re-syncs with the Google server and/or the apt gets synced over to any other iOS device you have.
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Jan 2, 2015 12:49 PM in response to JG in SBby bdomer,Like I said... so far the appointments I have done this to have not changed back. That does not mean it will stay but so far things are correct. I did this with a dozen appointments that were "GMT" infected yesterday and it has been 24 hours, plenty of time to have everything sync with google multiple times, and they are still correct.
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Jan 2, 2015 12:52 PM in response to bdomerby JG in SB,That's good to know. I will try testing the same here. Maybe switching to an "All Day" appointment clears out the code that is querying your calendar server and acquiring the time set on its system clock. The 24 hour time lag....and this sticking....makes that hopeful.
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Jan 2, 2015 12:53 PM in response to JG in SBby borg22222,That's a great, as usual, reply note. I have only been here a few days and I tend to concur with you JG. That is certainly what I tell the Apple Care people when they start in suggesting a workaround fix....I say No NO thanks, I will wait for the really update with out this bug...
I may look at bdomer above, ........
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Jan 2, 2015 12:57 PM in response to JG in SBby bdomer,Agreed... I went back to when the issue started for me the second time (I had this happen before and fixed it but after the update in December it cam back... only on my iOS 8.1.2 devices) and fixed a few appointments to see if it would work and so far things are good. I am going to do a repeating event and see what happens with that. My wife uses and iPhone 4 with the 7.something iOS and when she enters and appt. no GTM bug happens. When I look at it on my iOS 8.1.2 devices the ugly GMT rears its head! But again, if I toggle the All-day switch it goes away- just remember to fix the time!
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Jan 2, 2015 1:06 PM in response to borg22222by bdomer,I am not claiming a fix... I emphasize the "WORK AROUND" part of my post. I can't function daily without a proper calendar to keep me on schedule and really don't want to go back to paper pencil. I am just doing this so that it works correctly until they fix it. If I did not have such a "fluid" schedule from day to day where my appointments change sometimes by the hour I would not mess with any work around. But when I enter an appointment then two hours later have to change it and can't remember the right time because my phone has decided to adjust the time by five hours then my whole day is screwed up on the calendar. So this is just a way to survive until Apple does their thing. I will be on the phone with them pretty regularly until something happens. when you create a product that can do all the things these phones can do I agree that the simple function of maintaining an accurate calendar could be expected. Imagine what it would have been like if the first calculators always said 2+2=5... every time people added 2+2 they would need to then subtract 1 before going on... this is pretty much the same kind of thing... I think...
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Jan 2, 2015 1:08 PM in response to bdomerby JG in SB,@bdomer: Yup. You aren't going to see this (in nearly all cases) in iOS 7.x or earlier. I say "in almost all cases" because there have been one or two users who have seen something similar in earlier versions of iOS. People need to remember this: just because something looks the same, doesn't mean that it is the same.
There were some isolated reports of a bug that looked like this current bug back in 2009. Apparently that one only affected Google calendar users. Most of us never heard about it. There is not a discussion thread with 100k+ views about the previous bug turning up in any searches on this issue. It isn't the same bug folks. It's different and affected/affects almost no-one. The current one is far more widespread, and affects more than just Google Calendar users.
This new one showed up, with a vengeance, when iOS 8.x came out in September. Then several new waves of users have showed up reporting it each couple weeks when Google servers go through their periodic load balancing operations and those users' accounts get moved to a new server that is in a different time zone than their iOS device is set to.
And BTW, yes, you correctly identified your temporary solution as a "work-around" rather than a "fix." Noted and appreciated. That's the correct terminology
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Jan 2, 2015 1:18 PM in response to bdomerby bdomer,In case you are wondering... the GMT has not affected a repeating event that I have created over 24 hours ago.
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Jan 2, 2015 1:23 PM in response to bdomerby JG in SB,"Imagine what it would have been like if the first calculators always said 2+2=5... every time people added 2+2 they would need to then subtract 1 before going on... this is pretty much the same kind of thing... I think.."
^^ This is why I dumped the Android platform a few years back. Android is literally INFESTED with bugs. There is no one to call to report a bug and get any feedback on a solution, and everyone simply blames everyone else rather than acknowledging this might be a bug either in Android, or the 3rd party developer's app. Even apps from major companies like Ebay have obvious bugs on Android and nobody gives a crap about fixing any of them because Android users are totally OK just living with bugs. I think that if Android users were to ever acknowledge a bug they would have a harder time showing up with their snarky comments every time Apple comes out with a new product so that we all know how superior Android is
And the funniest part of all, most other "helpful" Android user's would say....in response to your example above: "Oh the solution is really easy, just remember that you always need to subtract 1. Problem solved!!" When I told my Android user brother in law about this GMT bug over Thanksgiving, he literally said "Why don't you just remember to subtract 8 hours from your appointment times?" I am not making this up.
Apple has, in the past, been different and far superior. They maintain a locked-down ecosystem in which....at least before recent events...the OS and 3rd party apps were thoroughly tested before being released to their users. This current situation is alarming because of what it demonstrates about Apple's "new" approach to quality control (i.e. they apparently don't do it anymore).
On the other hand, I was explaining this to my girlfriend the other night and caught myself pointing out that at least, with iOS I am only dealing with this one bug, and that a solution is in the works, rather than dealing with multiple bugs and no response or solutions.
My point: this s^cks....but it still s^cks less than the alternatives.
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Jan 2, 2015 1:30 PM in response to JG in SBby bdomer,The answer from your brother-in-law just makes me burst out in laughter. I just imagined telling my boss "yes, I can do the meeting at 9:00... I'll put 2:00 on my calendar and share the appointment with the rest of the team and remind them to subtract five hours from the time scheduled... oh wait.. I am sorry the phone will automatically make the five hour change for me so I don't have to adjust anything... so I will see you at 2:00..."
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Jan 2, 2015 1:33 PM in response to JG in SBby borg22222,JG and bdomer: well heck that sorta works but it is hatefully boring task.... plus I suspect will get adjusted at some point.
So to be clear what I have done. Steps wise it seems not exactly what you outlined above.
I tried a simple fix for an existing appt. SO
Open Calendar App on iPad.
See a "12 AM (GMT) " appt.
tap it, then tap edit word, Edit Event box comes up.
tap start time.... dates and time wheel thing opens with GMT in time zone.
Then ( and this differs from bdomer steps), I toggle All-day on then off.
Now Seattle shows in time zone.
Then I tap Done.
No GMT BUT the times are off by 8 hours now...so have to remember and edit those.
GAD this is nuts...I actually just spent like 20 minutes writing this accurately and am about 80% sure of what I typed.
And of course I realize doing this is basically stupid and should not be my problem. Hopefully most of you have stopped reading.
I will get back here if and when the GMT reappears on my edited appts.
YIKES.
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Jan 2, 2015 1:38 PM in response to bdomerby borg22222,oh ok bdomer you do mention to "fix the time" So I do think mine was almost same as yours. I just edited a month old appt rather than create new. phew