Angeltearx

Q: Itunes playcount too high

Hi there. I just downloaded the latest Itunes (for Windows) and updated my Ipod Touch (gen 5) to iOS 8, and now every time I play a song (on my Ipod), the play count won't get updated properly. Listening a song once increases the playcount randomly. Sometimes it increases with 1, but in many cases, it increases with 2, 3 or 5 or even up to 20. I never had this issue before. The playcount was always spot on. Now, it is total trash. Why is this and how can I fix this?


Note: only happens on my Ipod. If I play a song on Itunes itself (on my computer), the playcount increases properly.

Thanks in advance!

Posted on Sep 21, 2014 7:03 AM

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  • by Brett L,

    Brett L Brett L Sep 23, 2014 9:06 AM in response to Angeltearx
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    Sep 23, 2014 9:06 AM in response to Angeltearx

    Hi Angeltearx,

     

    If you are having issues with the playcount not updating correctly on your iPod touch, you may want to try some things to troubleshoot.

     

    First, quit all running applications and test again -

     

    iOS: Force an app to close

     

    Next, I would try restarting the iPod -

     

    Turn your iOS device off and on (restart) and reset

     

    If the issue is still present, you may want to restore the iPod as a new device -

     

    iOS: How to back up your data and set up your device as a new device

     

    Thanks for using Apple Support Communities.

     

    Best,

     

    Brett L

  • by Angeltearx,

    Angeltearx Angeltearx Sep 24, 2014 1:28 PM in response to Brett L
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    Sep 24, 2014 1:28 PM in response to Brett L

    Thanks for your reply Brett:

     

    - I tired to quit all running applications and test again: nothing. Didnt changed a thing
    - I turning off my iPod and resetting it (both didn't worked)

    - I completely restored my iPod by the ''restore iPod'' button in Itunes (when connecting it to my pc). Now everything is gone (did not made any back up just to be sure that I start from scratch with all the original settings and whetever): didn't do nothing.

     

    I stil have the same issue. When investigating the issue I noticed that the first play of a song is correctly processed. It goes like this:


    - I add a new song on my iPod (playcount 0)

    - I listen the song once (Playcount: 1 after synchronizing)
    - I listen the song 2nd time (Playcount: 3)
    - I listen the song 3rd time (Playcount 5)
    - I listen the song 4rd time (Playcount 10)

    - I listen the song 5th time (Playcount 17)

     

    It seems to increase exponentially.

     

    Im sick and tired of this. This all started when I updated iOS to iOS 8. I should never have done that. Please tell me how I can go back to iOS 7, because iOS 8 just seems to break things. I only use my iPod Touch for music, so I don't care about gimmicky health features/apps. I just want it to play music. Properly.

  • by dalmanac,

    dalmanac dalmanac Sep 25, 2014 2:32 AM in response to Angeltearx
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    Sep 25, 2014 2:32 AM in response to Angeltearx

    I can confirm the frustration of Angeltearx. I discovered the anomaly last night, and checked back through my 'Recently Played' playlist to explore further, and sure enough, the duplication of play counts appears to have occurred since, low and behold, the iOS8 update was applied.

     

    No issues with playing songs through iTunes, and no issues with my trusty iPod Classic. Have yet to explore what it does with my iPad but am unlikely to experiment further until Apple admits there is a problem and issues a fix.

     

    For the record, I took a text export of the playlist I played today, which had all play counts listed. I played 56 songs on my iPhone throughout the day and when I synced with iTunes in the evening, the play counts were curious. About 25 of them added 2 to the play count (i.e. play count was 10, but after the song was played it listed 12) and 20 of them added 3. The rest were fine. I thought it might be the type of files (i.e. MP3, AAC, Purchased from iTunes, etc) but there was no logic to it. They weren't related to a particular artist or album, or a specific time they were played.

     

    In a word, stuffed!

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Sep 25, 2014 3:20 AM in response to dalmanac
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    Sep 25, 2014 3:20 AM in response to dalmanac

    I've written a couple of scripts that can sync or combine stats from an iPod/iOS device and the library (SyncStats and CombineStats). Perhaps one that can import the current playcounts from a device, overriding the library, would be useful?

     

    tt2

  • by MikeLopez1985,

    MikeLopez1985 MikeLopez1985 Sep 25, 2014 9:20 PM in response to turingtest2
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    Sep 25, 2014 9:20 PM in response to turingtest2

    happening to me also. my iPhone plays don't sync correctly to my iTunes. 1 play increases the plays by 2 or 4.

     

    this happened after the recent update

  • by Darren Tunstall,

    Darren Tunstall Darren Tunstall Sep 27, 2014 4:08 AM in response to Angeltearx
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    Sep 27, 2014 4:08 AM in response to Angeltearx

    I'm having this exact same issue, but with iTunes on a Mac. Otherwise identical, and again it's only happened since the iOS8 update.

     

    It's effectively broken iTunes for me, as I have a load of nested smart playlists driven by play count, date added, last played etc. to give me a new mix of music to take to work each day. Now the play counts are rocketing up way past the true number of plays, so my smart playlists aren't so smart any more.

  • by Brett L,

    Brett L Brett L Sep 29, 2014 1:54 PM in response to Angeltearx
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    Sep 29, 2014 1:54 PM in response to Angeltearx

    Hi Angeltearx,

     

    Thank you for using Apple Support Communities. Due to the nature of the issue you described you may find more information by using another one of Apple's support resources - https://getsupport.apple.com/GetproductgroupList.action.

     

    Brett L 

  • by elliottreed91,

    elliottreed91 elliottreed91 Sep 29, 2014 11:28 PM in response to Brett L
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    Sep 29, 2014 11:28 PM in response to Brett L

    Hi

     

    I spoke to an Apple support adviser through the online chat last week about this. She was also experiencing this problem and has said she's reported it, but that I could do the same through www.apple.com/feedback

     

    I think we'll probably have to wait for iOS 8.1 for this to be fixed. So frustrating.

  • by Darren Tunstall,

    Darren Tunstall Darren Tunstall Sep 30, 2014 11:07 AM in response to elliottreed91
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    Sep 30, 2014 11:07 AM in response to elliottreed91

    I've just reported it through www.apple.com/feedback and I encourage you all to do the same. The more of us that raise it, the more likely it will be fixed in the next release.

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Sep 30, 2014 12:24 PM in response to turingtest2
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    Sep 30, 2014 12:24 PM in response to turingtest2

    For Windows users I've written a script called AddToPlays which could be used, for example, to add a negative value to a batch of recently played tracks, although you would still need to have an idea of which tracks might have been increased by, say 2 instead of 1, or 8 instead of 3 (assuming that is how it works).

     

    tt2

  • by CoreyDZ74,

    CoreyDZ74 CoreyDZ74 Oct 1, 2014 11:12 PM in response to Angeltearx
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    Oct 1, 2014 11:12 PM in response to Angeltearx

    I am having the same issue.  I downloaded a song yesterday and have listened to it pretty consistently, however when I synched the first time after downloading it, iTunes reported me having 33 plays (which I thought was overstated, but I had been listening to it on repeat).  I listened to it 2 more times, and the play count jumped to 57. I cleared my play count entirely for this song, shut my computer down, shut my iPhone down, and rebooted everything.  Play count went as follows:

     

    Play 1 - play count 1

    Play 2 - play count 30

    Play 3 - play count 97

     

    Like what???

  • by giokappa,

    giokappa giokappa Oct 2, 2014 12:17 AM in response to Angeltearx
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    Oct 2, 2014 12:17 AM in response to Angeltearx

    Hello,

     

    I have exactly the same problem, i think it is my Ipad, since I have downloaded the new OS8 but it is messing up all my playcount. I had to restore it at least twice.

     

    What can we do?

     

    Thanks

  • by IBloopers,

    IBloopers IBloopers Oct 2, 2014 5:40 PM in response to Brett L
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    Oct 2, 2014 5:40 PM in response to Brett L

    I too have noticed this problem since updating to ios 8.0 series. It is a nuisance as I rely on accurate play counts to update my smart playlists. Apple are getting very sloppy of late. Given that we pay a premium for the privilege of using their products the least they can do is get it right. Any idea when they plan to put this right?

  • by chilipepper1969,

    chilipepper1969 chilipepper1969 Oct 3, 2014 6:55 AM in response to Angeltearx
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    Oct 3, 2014 6:55 AM in response to Angeltearx

    Add me to this list of frustrated users. I don't think the play count issue is limited only to the iOS 8 release. This issue was also present in iOS 7. I have reported this issue numerous times, there doesn't seem to be a logical explanation for which songs apply the exponential increase in play counts. No one at Apple seems to prioritize this issue. I suppose they'll get to it some day, but this should be a no brainer fix.

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