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Q: Will these hardware upgrades improve Logic X performance?

Hello.. I'm looking to make some upgrades to my fairly-recent, Late 2011, MacBook Pro.. I'm currently working full-time in Logic X, spending at least 12+ hours/day working w/TONS of CPU-intensive plugins.. Here is my [b]current setup:[/b]

 

 

• MacBook Pro 2.4GHz Intel Core i7 (Late 2011) .. 8gb 1333 MHz DDR3 .. 750gb 7200rpm HD

 

 

I found out that my specific model of MacBook Pro can actually take 16gb of RAM versus the "maxed" 8gb of RAM that I originally bought it with from Apple.. When I bought the machine, I bought the maximum amount of RAM apple offered, as well as the top CPU and harddrive.. After doing some research last night, I found out that even though the 2011 MacBook Pro's are only "rated" for 8gb RAM (4gb x 2), [b] that they can actually take 16gb RAM (8gb x 2)![/b]..

 

 

[u][b]Here's the RAM modules I was looking to upgrade it to:[/u][/b]

 

 

$151 for pair (8gb x 2)

[img]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51s40BUSIcL.jpg[/img]

Patriot Mac Series 16GB Apple SODIMM Kit (2X8GB) DDR3 1333 PC3 10600 204-Pin SO-DIMM PSA316G1333SK

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006BMBUAA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1& smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

 

 

I figure that since I'm currently *very* unhappy with Logic X's performance on this somewhat, brand-new MacBook Pro, and that since I'm not in the current financial situation to be able to go out and buy the new Mac Pro garbage-can, my best bet for improving my workflow and Logic X's performance is to[b] upgrade and make a beast out of my current machine.. [/b]

 

 

Since I've now hit the point where I've actually "maxed out" my RAM w/16gb, and since CPU isn't really upgradeable for Mac's, I figure that the [b]next best addition would be to deck out my machine with some SSD's.. I'm a big advocate of buying the most badass components possible when it comes to my computers, so price isn't really a factor when moving onto this next upgrade:

 

 

[u]Here's the SSD (was thinking about getting 2 of these @ 512gb/each) that I was looking to upgrade it with:[/u]

 

 

$359/each

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Samsung Electronics 850 Pro-Series 2.5" 512GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive Single Unit Version MZ-7KE512BW

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LF10KTO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1& smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

 

 

I know that the Samsung 850 Pro SSD's are a big on the pricey side, but from my research, I've found that they're ranked as the "best" available on the market.. I was planning on replacing my main hard drive in my MacBook Pro w/one of these to use as the OSX/startup/Logic X/apps drive, and then was catering to the idea of [b]whether or not it'd be worth it to throw in a 2nd one?[/b] (same specs) in the SuperDrive optical bay.. and use that for music/samples/etc..

 

 

I'm not sure if a 2nd SSD would be considered "overkill", but at the same time, I hate having to rely on external devices which are typically slow and bottleneck (plus I only have 1 thunderbolt *used already by display* and 2x USB 2.0 ports).. I figure this way, I can have one disk reading while the other is writing, both at the same time.. and be able to have all my most important, frequently-accessed music/sample folders available lightning-fast..

 

 

[b][u]Total Shopping List:[/b][/u]

 

 

• 1x Patriot Mac Series 16GB Apple SODIMM Kit (2X8GB) DDR3 1333 PC3 10600 204-Pin SO-DIMM PSA316G1333SK by Patriot = [b]$151.06[/b]

• 2x Samsung Electronics 850 Pro-Series 2.5" 512GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive Single Unit Version MZ-7KE512BW by Samsung = [b]$359 each * 2 = [b]$708.00[/b]

 

 

+ OWC Data Doubler to be able to put a SSD in my SuperDrive/optical bay ($35)

+ OWC SuperDrive Enclosure to be able to reconnect my SuperDrive ($33)

 

 

[b]Grand Total:[/b] $937.06 + tax = $1,027.49 (after tax + overnight shipping)

 

 

Do you guys think these upgrades will provide me with a noticeable improvement in Logic X's performance? Also, do you think the 2nd SSD drive is worth it for the "less important" stuff that I frequently access? Looking forward to hearing your thoughts! Thanks!

MacBook Pro, iOS 7.1.1

Posted on Sep 21, 2014 4:00 PM

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  • by Kappy,

    Kappy Kappy Sep 21, 2014 4:16 PM in response to lip5016
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    Sep 21, 2014 4:16 PM in response to lip5016

    Those are all nice upgrades, but I don't see any reason why they would improve the use of Logic. You are going to spend money to upgrade RAM, but you don't even know if such an upgrade is needed - in other words what evidence do you have that you are running out of RAM when you use Logic?

     

    An SSD is a fine upgrade. It's main benefits are faster startups and quicker applications and data file loading. But it's of no use when using Logic unless you are streaming data to the drive and require a faster drive than you've been using.

     

    Do not install the SSD in the optical drive bay. User the Data Doubler to put the SSD where the HDD was located and put the HDD in the optical drive bay.

     

    As for memory usage you can read this:

     

    About OS X Memory Management and Usage

     

    Using Activity Monitor to read System Memory & determine how much RAM is used

    OS X Mavericks- About Activity Monitor

     

    Understanding top output in the Terminal

     

    The amount of available RAM for applications is the sum of Free RAM and Inactive RAM. This will change as applications are opened and closed or change from active to inactive status. The Swap figure represents an estimate of the total amount of swap space required for VM if used, but does not necessarily indicate the actual size of the existing swap file. If you are really in need of more RAM that would be indicated by how frequently the system uses VM. If you open the Terminal and run the top command at the prompt you will find information reported on Pageins () and Pageouts (). Pageouts () is the important figure. If the value in the parentheses is 0 (zero) then OS X is not making instantaneous use of VM which means you have adequate physical RAM for the system with the applications you have loaded. If the figure in parentheses is running positive and your hard drive is constantly being used (thrashing) then you need more physical RAM.

     

    Adding RAM only makes it possible to run more programs concurrently.  It doesn't speed up the computer nor make games run faster.  What it can do is prevent the system from having to use disk-based VM when it runs out of RAM because you are trying to run too many applications concurrently or using applications that are extremely RAM dependent.  It will improve the performance of applications that run mostly in RAM or when loading programs.