Vernz

Q: Apple Pay for Iphones 4-5

Can someone please explain how this will work and does with work with Iphones 4-5.

I read this : https://www.apple.com/apple-pay/  but i can not found the information and the compatibility for Iphones that are not the lastest releases?

Posted on Sep 21, 2014 10:05 PM

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  • by rbrylawski,

    rbrylawski rbrylawski Sep 25, 2014 8:02 PM in response to Vernz
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    Sep 25, 2014 8:02 PM in response to Vernz

    Vernz wrote:

     

    rbrylawski wrote:

     

    Yeah me too.  And I really should just let the poor fellow believe he's going to make Apple change the "error of their ways!"  But then, when someone simply has no clue what's real, it's just so darn tooting easy to play........

    Again do not assume that i have no clue. I would unleash on you for what you have just written but this is that the place to express my emotions. Thats trying to make your hero members  on this forum to think outside the box and think of the bigger scale.

    Feel free to unleash on me Vernz.  I could care less.........

  • by IdrisSeabright,

    IdrisSeabright IdrisSeabright Sep 25, 2014 8:07 PM in response to Vernz
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    Sep 25, 2014 8:07 PM in response to Vernz

    Vernz wrote:


    Thats trying to make your hero members  on this forum to think outside the box and think of the bigger scale.

    If you want to think on a "bigger scale", why are you wasting your time of such a trivial issue? You're really playing out of your league here.

  • by rbrylawski,

    rbrylawski rbrylawski Sep 25, 2014 8:12 PM in response to IdrisSeabright
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    Sep 25, 2014 8:12 PM in response to IdrisSeabright

    Meg St._Clair wrote:

     

    Vernz wrote:


    Thats trying to make your hero members  on this forum to think outside the box and think of the bigger scale.

    If you want to think on a "bigger scale", why are you wasting your time of such a trivial issue? You're really playing out of your league here.

    I honestly thought he might have gotten it and went away.  But no, he still wants to show how uninformed he is and continue to publicly embarrass himself.

  • by Vernz,

    Vernz Vernz Sep 25, 2014 8:17 PM in response to rbrylawski
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    Sep 25, 2014 8:17 PM in response to rbrylawski

    Out of me league, who you people, please.

  • by Vernz,

    Vernz Vernz Sep 25, 2014 8:17 PM in response to rbrylawski
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    Sep 25, 2014 8:17 PM in response to rbrylawski

    rbrylawski wrote:

     

    Vernz wrote:

     

    rbrylawski wrote:

     

    Yeah me too.  And I really should just let the poor fellow believe he's going to make Apple change the "error of their ways!"  But then, when someone simply has no clue what's real, it's just so darn tooting easy to play........

    Again do not assume that i have no clue. I would unleash on you for what you have just written but this is that the place to express my emotions. Thats trying to make your hero members  on this forum to think outside the box and think of the bigger scale.

    Feel free to unleash on me Vernz.  I could care less.........

    Waste of words mate.

  • by Vernz,

    Vernz Vernz Sep 25, 2014 8:20 PM in response to rbrylawski
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    Sep 25, 2014 8:20 PM in response to rbrylawski

    rbrylawski wrote:

     

    Meg St._Clair wrote:

     

    Vernz wrote:


    Thats trying to make your hero members  on this forum to think outside the box and think of the bigger scale.

    If you want to think on a "bigger scale", why are you wasting your time of such a trivial issue? You're really playing out of your league here.

    I honestly thought he might have gotten it and went away.  But no, he still wants to show how uninformed he is and continue to publicly embarrass himself.

    Publicly embarrass myself you say, misinformed. I haven't not even began to start what i want to say. Due to all you trolls try to shut me down. I know my technology and the understands of this. But you people seem to argue and think i do not know. THINK AGAIN.

  • by rbrylawski,

    rbrylawski rbrylawski Sep 25, 2014 8:27 PM in response to Vernz
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    Sep 25, 2014 8:27 PM in response to Vernz

    Vernz wrote:

     

    rbrylawski wrote:

     

    Meg St._Clair wrote:

     

    Vernz wrote:


    Thats trying to make your hero members  on this forum to think outside the box and think of the bigger scale.

    If you want to think on a "bigger scale", why are you wasting your time of such a trivial issue? You're really playing out of your league here.

    I honestly thought he might have gotten it and went away.  But no, he still wants to show how uninformed he is and continue to publicly embarrass himself.

    Publicly embarrass myself you say, misinformed. I haven't not even began to start what i want to say. Due to all you trolls try to shut me down. I know my technology and the understands of this. But you people seem to argue and think i do not know. THINK AGAIN.

    LOL......OK Vernz

     

    But this should make you happy.  This has been one of the singularly most wasteful and odd threads I've ever participated in.  There is no point in continuing the discussion.  I won't follow the thread further and I wish you luck in your quest for what you'll never get, unless you buy a new phone.

     

    Best wishes to you Vernz

  • by Vernz,

    Vernz Vernz Sep 26, 2014 6:28 AM in response to rbrylawski
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    Sep 26, 2014 6:28 AM in response to rbrylawski

    Now now be nice and continue to argue because you are mis informed and i am here to inform the community on what needs to be done.

  • by rbrylawski,

    rbrylawski rbrylawski Sep 26, 2014 6:39 AM in response to Vernz
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    Sep 26, 2014 6:39 AM in response to Vernz

    LOL......Sorry Vernz.  This is a useless discussion. 

  • by Ghostwitness,

    Ghostwitness Ghostwitness Sep 26, 2014 6:54 AM in response to Vernz
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    Sep 26, 2014 6:54 AM in response to Vernz

    #1 thread on Apple Support Communities by far!

  • by Vernz,

    Vernz Vernz Sep 26, 2014 6:58 AM in response to rbrylawski
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    Sep 26, 2014 6:58 AM in response to rbrylawski

    How is this a useless discussion, you seem not to be understanding at all. NFC chip or no NFC chip, the payment should work for all devices. Do you understand?????

    rbrylawski wrote:

     

    LOL......Sorry Vernz.  This is a useless discussion.

  • by IdrisSeabright,

    IdrisSeabright IdrisSeabright Sep 26, 2014 7:27 AM in response to Vernz
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    Sep 26, 2014 7:27 AM in response to Vernz

    Vernz wrote:

     

    How is this a useless discussion, you seem not to be understanding at all. NFC chip or no NFC chip, the payment should work for all devices. Do you understand?????

     

    Sweetie pie, you're the one who is confused. A touchless pay system needs security. NFC is what merchants and banks seem to have settled on. Without the chip there is no security for the payments. And that would be BAD. As in VERY BAD.

     

    Run along and invent your own system that doesn't require hardware security. Then, get it patented. Then, convince banks, merchants and credit card companies to use it. That is the only way you'll "win" your fight. Apple doesn't have to do offer this system at all. As it is their system, they can roll it out however they chose. They are not required to make it backwards compatible with old hardware. When you become an adult, you may learn that just because you want something doesn't meant the world or anyone in it is obligated to give it to you.

  • by Phil0124,

    Phil0124 Phil0124 Sep 26, 2014 7:38 AM in response to Vernz
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    Sep 26, 2014 7:38 AM in response to Vernz

    Vernz wrote:

     

    How is this a useless discussion, you seem not to be understanding at all. NFC chip or no NFC chip, the payment should work for all devices. Do you understand?????

    rbrylawski wrote:

     

    LOL......Sorry Vernz.  This is a useless discussion.

    Just how do you propose then that a Phone without an NFC chip connect with an NFC receiver?

     

    These receivers in the stores are not made by Apple. They are not set in the stores by Apple. This is a technology the Banks and stores decided could be used for secure wireless payments.   You need the NFC chip to be able to use the wireless payment system because the Banks and stores decided this would be the way it would work and have the necessary security.

     

    Apple needs to conform to those specification if they want to use the wireless payment system that is already in place.

     

    Without an NFC chip there is no way to communicate with the NFC terminal to process the payment.

     

    Its like trying to send an email from a piece of paper. The Piece of of paper does not have he ability to send itself magically.

     

    I know this is probably futile, but I thought I'd give it a shot any way. 

  • by rbrylawski,

    rbrylawski rbrylawski Sep 26, 2014 7:58 AM in response to Phil0124
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    Sep 26, 2014 7:58 AM in response to Phil0124

    Phil0124 wrote:

     

    Vernz wrote:

     

    How is this a useless discussion, you seem not to be understanding at all. NFC chip or no NFC chip, the payment should work for all devices. Do you understand?????

    rbrylawski wrote:

     

    LOL......Sorry Vernz.  This is a useless discussion.

    Just how do you propose then that a Phone without an NFC chip connect with an NFC receiver?

     

    These receivers in the stores are not made by Apple. They are not set in the stores by Apple. This is a technology the Banks and stores decided could be used for secure wireless payments.   You need the NFC chip to be able to use the wireless payment system because the Banks and stores decided this would be the way it would work and have the necessary security.

     

    Apple needs to conform to those specification if they want to use the wireless payment system that is already in place.

     

    Without an NFC chip there is no way to communicate with the NFC terminal to process the payment.

     

    Its like trying to send an email from a piece of paper. The Piece of of paper does not have he ability to send itself magically.

     

    I know this is probably futile, but I thought I'd give it a shot any way.

    Nicely stated.  But you went and got all logical to a person to whom logic is wasted........

  • by Phil0124,

    Phil0124 Phil0124 Sep 26, 2014 8:03 AM in response to rbrylawski
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    Sep 26, 2014 8:03 AM in response to rbrylawski

    rbrylawski wrote:

     

    Nicely stated.  But you went and got all logical to a person to whom logic is wasted........

    Yeah I know, But I still wanted to give it shot any way. More for anybody else in the future that may stumble into this mess of a thread, than anything else.

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